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jra at baylink

Aug 25, 2008, 6:06 PM

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Is this a live mirror?

or in some other wise breaking the rules, as it feels like to me?

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Nuclear-Football

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george.herbert at gmail

Aug 25, 2008, 6:17 PM

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Re: Is this a live mirror? [In reply to]

It's not a live mirror - I did a test edit, and the edit didn't show up there.

Not sure how they're mirroring, but it's not live.


-george william herbert
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra [at] baylink> wrote:
> or in some other wise breaking the rules, as it feels like to me?
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Nuclear-Football
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra [at] baylink
> Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
> St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
>
> Those who cast the vote decide nothing.
> Those who count the vote decide everything.
> -- (Josef Stalin)
>
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cbrown1023.ml at gmail

Aug 25, 2008, 6:21 PM

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Re: Is this a live mirror? [In reply to]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM, George Herbert
<george.herbert [at] gmail> wrote:
> It's not a live mirror - I did a test edit, and the edit didn't show up there.
>
> Not sure how they're mirroring, but it's not live.
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra [at] baylink> wrote:
>> or in some other wise breaking the rules, as it feels like to me?
>>
>> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Nuclear-Football
>>

Also, they attribute the authors: "The Wikipedia article included on
this page is licensed under the GFDL." (Wikipedia links to our
article history and GFDL links to the text of the GFDL.) So they seem
to not be breaking any rules, at least at first glance.

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innocentkiller at gmail

Aug 25, 2008, 6:23 PM

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On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM, George Herbert
<george.herbert [at] gmail> wrote:
> It's not a live mirror - I did a test edit, and the edit didn't show up there.
>
> Not sure how they're mirroring, but it's not live.
>
>
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert [at] gmail
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra [at] baylink> wrote:
>> or in some other wise breaking the rules, as it feels like to me?
>>
>> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Nuclear-Football
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jra
>> --
>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra [at] baylink
>> Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
>> Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
>> St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
>>
>> Those who cast the vote decide nothing.
>> Those who count the vote decide everything.
>> -- (Josef Stalin)
>>
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>> Wikitech-l [at] lists
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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>
>
>
> --
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Definitely not live. Also not very good at it:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia

But, not breaking the rules...from their footer:

"The Wikipedia article included on this page is licensed under the GFDL.
Images may be subject to relevant owners' copyright."

-Chad

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jra at baylink

Aug 25, 2008, 6:38 PM

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Re: Is this a live mirror? [In reply to]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:21:46PM -0400, Casey Brown wrote:
> Also, they attribute the authors: "The Wikipedia article included on
> this page is licensed under the GFDL." (Wikipedia links to our
> article history and GFDL links to the text of the GFDL.) So they seem
> to not be breaking any rules, at least at first glance.

I looked for that, but I didn't see it. I guess I didn't look hard
enough. Sorry for the noise.

Cheers,
-- jra
--
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Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
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george.herbert at gmail

Aug 25, 2008, 6:57 PM

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Re: Is this a live mirror? [In reply to]

Not noise. If you're not sure about it, it's a good thing to have
others take a look at...

Better a false alarm or two than a bunch of bandwidth-soaking leeches
who really are live mirrors getting away with it because nobody spoke
up 8-)


-george


On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra [at] baylink> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:21:46PM -0400, Casey Brown wrote:
>> Also, they attribute the authors: "The Wikipedia article included on
>> this page is licensed under the GFDL." (Wikipedia links to our
>> article history and GFDL links to the text of the GFDL.) So they seem
>> to not be breaking any rules, at least at first glance.
>
> I looked for that, but I didn't see it. I guess I didn't look hard
> enough. Sorry for the noise.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra [at] baylink
> Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
> St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
>
> Those who cast the vote decide nothing.
> Those who count the vote decide everything.
> -- (Josef Stalin)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikitech-l mailing list
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> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>



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tstarling at wikimedia

Aug 25, 2008, 7:26 PM

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Re: Is this a live mirror? [In reply to]

Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> or in some other wise breaking the rules, as it feels like to me?
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Nuclear-Football

Sounds kind of familiar...

Ah yes, this has been reported to various mailing lists repeatedly over
the last five years:

<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.misc/13328/match=nationmaster>
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/7158/match=nationmaster>
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.english/7557/match=nationmaster>

And it has of course been listed and discussed in the relevant place:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Mno#Nationmaster>

Indeed, it was there when the list was quite a bit shorter:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks&oldid=1452393>

-- Tim Starling


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jra at baylink

Aug 25, 2008, 7:47 PM

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On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:26:41PM +1000, Tim Starling wrote:
> And it has of course been listed and discussed in the relevant place:
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Mno#Nationmaster>

Well, that was reasonably polite; thanks, Tim. Now I know where to
look next time.

Cheers,
-- jra
--
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Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
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