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dgerard at gmail

Oct 6, 2007, 3:05 PM

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Replacement stats for placeholder images?

I've been putting placeholder images on a lot of articles on en:wp.
e.g. [[Image:Replace this image male.svg]], which goes to
[[Wikipedia:Fromowner]], which asks people to upload an image if they
own one.

I know it's inspired people to add free content images to articles in
several cases. What I'm interested in is numbers. So what I'd need is
a list of edits where one of the SVGs that redirects to
[[Wikipedia:Fromowner]] is replaced with an image. (Checking which of
those are actually free images can come next.)

Is there a tolerably easy way to get this info from a dump? Any
Wikipedia statistics fans who think this'd be easy?

(If the placeholders do work, then it'd also be useful convincing some
wikiprojects to encourage the things. Not that there's ownership of
articles on en:wp, of *course* ...)

- d.

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Oct 6, 2007, 3:30 PM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On 10/6/07, David Gerard <dgerard [at] gmail> wrote:
> I've been putting placeholder images on a lot of articles on en:wp.
> e.g. [[Image:Replace this image male.svg]], which goes to
> [[Wikipedia:Fromowner]], which asks people to upload an image if they
> own one.
>
> I know it's inspired people to add free content images to articles in
> several cases. What I'm interested in is numbers. So what I'd need is
> a list of edits where one of the SVGs that redirects to
> [[Wikipedia:Fromowner]] is replaced with an image. (Checking which of
> those are actually free images can come next.)
>
> Is there a tolerably easy way to get this info from a dump? Any
> Wikipedia statistics fans who think this'd be easy?
>
> (If the placeholders do work, then it'd also be useful convincing some
> wikiprojects to encourage the things. Not that there's ownership of
> articles on en:wp, of *course* ...)

It wouldn't be hard to do with a recent *full history dump*. Which
does not exist.

Get me a full history dump and I'll give you a list of all revisions
that included the image.

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Oct 6, 2007, 3:34 PM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On 06/10/2007, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell [at] gmail> wrote:

> It wouldn't be hard to do with a recent *full history dump*. Which
> does not exist.

Yeah, I was afraid of that ...

> Get me a full history dump and I'll give you a list of all revisions
> that included the image.

*cough*

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rolf.lampa at rilnet

Oct 6, 2007, 7:21 PM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

Gregory Maxwell skrev:

> Get me a full history dump and I'll give you a list of all revisions
> that included the image.

Yes, no problem, with access to a full dump.

BTW, my posts don't go through in the wikien-1 list. I registered
recently, though.

Did I get it right assuming that WIKIEN-1 =
gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.english?
(if not, then I understand why my posts don't go through)

Regards,

// Rolf Lampa

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beesley at gmail

Oct 7, 2007, 7:52 AM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On 10/7/07, Rolf Lampa <rolf.lampa [at] rilnet> wrote:
> ...
> BTW, my posts don't go through in the wikien-1 list. I registered
> recently, though.

Try wikien-l (L) instead of wikien-1 (one)

Angela

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Oct 10, 2007, 11:19 AM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

2007/10/7, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell [at] gmail>:

> Get me a full history dump and I'll give you a list of all revisions
> that included the image.

Maybe it would be easier to use contributions made by David to find
adding place holders, and just check current article state on living
Wikipedia?

AJF/WarX

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Oct 10, 2007, 11:23 AM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On 10/10/2007, Artur Fija�kowski <wiki.warx [at] gmail> wrote:
> 2007/10/7, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell [at] gmail>:

> > Get me a full history dump and I'll give you a list of all revisions
> > that included the image.

> Maybe it would be easier to use contributions made by David to find
> adding place holders, and just check current article state on living
> Wikipedia?

That might provide a decent sample - I've been getting into the
thousands, as I've been using AWB to add a few thousand of them!

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Oct 10, 2007, 2:18 PM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On 10/10/07, David Gerard <dgerard [at] gmail> wrote:
> On 10/10/2007, Artur Fijałkowski <wiki.warx [at] gmail> wrote:
> > 2007/10/7, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell [at] gmail>:
>
> > > Get me a full history dump and I'll give you a list of all revisions
> > > that included the image.
>
> > Maybe it would be easier to use contributions made by David to find
> > adding place holders, and just check current article state on living
> > Wikipedia?
>
>
> That might provide a decent sample - I've been getting into the
> thousands, as I've been using AWB to add a few thousand of them!

On a related note: You can enter an image name, e.g. "Image:Replace
this image male.svg", as a "category" into my watchflickr tool [1],
and it will check all the page titles this image is used on for a
potential free image on flickr.

Cheers,
Magnus

[1] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/watchflickr.php
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Oct 10, 2007, 2:27 PM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On 10/10/2007, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske [at] googlemail> wrote:

> On a related note: You can enter an image name, e.g. "Image:Replace
> this image male.svg", as a "category" into my watchflickr tool [1],
> and it will check all the page titles this image is used on for a
> potential free image on flickr.
> [1] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/watchflickr.php

So I can fiddle my stats myself? Exxxxcellent ;-D

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Mar 26, 2008, 12:58 PM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On 06/10/2007, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell [at] gmail> wrote:
> On 10/6/07, David Gerard <dgerard [at] gmail> wrote:

> > I've been putting placeholder images on a lot of articles on en:wp.
> > e.g. [[Image:Replace this image male.svg]], which goes to
> > [[Wikipedia:Fromowner]], which asks people to upload an image if they
> > own one.
> > I know it's inspired people to add free content images to articles in
> > several cases. What I'm interested in is numbers. So what I'd need is
> > a list of edits where one of the SVGs that redirects to
> > [[Wikipedia:Fromowner]] is replaced with an image. (Checking which of
> > those are actually free images can come next.)
> > Is there a tolerably easy way to get this info from a dump? Any
> > Wikipedia statistics fans who think this'd be easy?

> It wouldn't be hard to do with a recent *full history dump*. Which
> does not exist.
> Get me a full history dump and I'll give you a list of all revisions
> that included the image.

We now have an en:wp full history dump!

Cross-namespace redirects don't work any more, so the images I'm after
numbers for replacements of are [[Image:Replace this image1.svg]],
[[Image:Replace this image male.svg]] and [[Image:Replace this image
female.svg]].

Are you still able to help with this? If not, anyone else into
fossicking through history dumps?

- d.

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charlottethewebb at gmail

Oct 13, 2009, 11:12 AM

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Re: Replacement stats for placeholder images? [In reply to]

On Sat, Oct 6, 2007 at 5:05 PM, David Gerard <dgerard [at] gmail> wrote:
> I've been putting placeholder images on a lot of articles on en:wp.
> e.g. [[Image:Replace this image male.svg]], which goes to
> [[Wikipedia:Fromowner]], which asks people to upload an image if they
> own one.
>
> I know it's inspired people to add free content images to articles in
> several cases. What I'm interested in is numbers. So what I'd need is
> a list of edits where one of the SVGs that redirects to
> [[Wikipedia:Fromowner]] is replaced with an image. (Checking which of
> those are actually free images can come next.)
>
> Is there a tolerably easy way to get this info from a dump? Any
> Wikipedia statistics fans who think this'd be easy?
>
> (If the placeholders do work, then it'd also be useful convincing some
> wikiprojects to encourage the things. Not that there's ownership of
> articles on en:wp, of *course* ...)

Just this morning I noticed arbcom member Wizardman (of Colbert Report
fame) serially removing these images.

Did you ever find these statistics, David, Greg?

Last I heard was this:

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:20 AM, David Gerard <dgerard [at] gmail> wrote:
> 2008/10/10 Philip Sandifer <snowspinner [at] gmail>:
>> On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Charlotte Webb wrote:
>
>>> If anyone has statistics for how many photos have been submitted via
>>> clicking on the placeholder, now would a good time to break 'em out.
>
>> I believe David Gerard knows these. David?
>
>
> I don't, actually. Greg Maxwell said to me a while ago it would be
> easy to run them from a full history dump - Greg?
>
>
> - d.

—C.W.

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Oct 13, 2009, 11:13 AM

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P.S. Whoa, thread necro.

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