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kim at bruning

Jul 10, 2011, 7:10 PM

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minor issue with languages

I couldn't actually enter my language matrix properly , so I've just set mother langauge to english (because it requires me to set
SOMETHING) and left it at that. Also, there's not enough boxes.

My actual matrix is nl5, en5, de3, fr1, la1 ... not even that atypical for a wikimedian!

sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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Jul 11, 2011, 12:22 AM

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Re: minor issue with languages [In reply to]

Wow, I'm impressed. Mine is en5, fr0.3 and 0.01 for an assortment of
languages in which I can order a beer. Which I suspect is the other
typical Wikimedian language profile.

And I'm not sure even about the en5. In Wikimedia terms does anyone
really qualify as en5 unless they are bilingual in English and
American English with a pretty good understanding of three or four of
the other variants of english on en wiki?

WSC

On 11 July 2011 03:10, Kim Bruning <kim [at] bruning> wrote:
> I couldn't actually enter my language matrix properly , so I've just set mother langauge to english (because it requires me to set
> SOMETHING) and left it at that. Also, there's not enough boxes.
>
> My actual matrix is nl5, en5, de3, fr1, la1 ... not even that atypical for a wikimedian!
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
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Jul 11, 2011, 2:06 AM

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Re: minor issue with languages [In reply to]

Alternatively, en-5 may be used to describe someone like me whose mother
tongue isn't actually English (I was brought up in Hong Kong speaking
Cantonese), but speaks with native fluency and a professional application (I
teach Chinese immigrants English - a language teacher is a "typical" level-5
description, according to the Babel documentation). In some ways this is a
wholly different definition of en-5: I only speak fluently two dialects of
English (RP and Hong Kong), and can only understand a select few others.

Level-5 templates do mess up the system when used by someone like Kim, a
native speaker who wants to highlight one's professional language skills,
though.
On Jul 11, 2011 3:22 PM, "WereSpielChequers" <werespielchequers [at] gmail>
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Jul 11, 2011, 5:46 AM

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Hmmm... That's interesting. According to the criterion Deryck Chan mentioned, I'm he-5, en-5, ar-5, fr-3 and es-2. In various occasions I was a teacher of he, en and ar, but I always write ar-3 because I can read and write quite easily though my speech fluency needs some improvement...

But back to the problem itself - Is it just standard templates that are missing from the Wikimania 2011 website?

Dror K

lodewijk at effeietsanders

Jul 11, 2011, 5:49 AM

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Re: minor issue with languages [In reply to]

I think Kim was originally referring to the registration form.

Personally, I don't think it is a big issue, and suggest that Kim takes a
pencil with him to edit his badge on the spot ;)

Lodewijk

2011/7/11 <dror1975 [at] icqmail>

>
> Hmmm... That's interesting. According to the criterion Deryck Chan
> mentioned, I'm he-5, en-5, ar-5, fr-3 and es-2. In various occasions I was a
> teacher of he, en and ar, but I always write ar-3 because I can read and
> write quite easily though my speech fluency needs some improvement...
>
> But back to the problem itself - Is it just standard templates that are
> missing from the Wikimania 2011 website?
>
> Dror K
>
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kim at bruning

Jul 11, 2011, 4:37 PM

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Re: minor issue with languages [In reply to]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 02:49:20PM +0200, Lodewijk wrote:
> I think Kim was originally referring to the registration form.
>
> Personally, I don't think it is a big issue, and suggest that Kim takes a
> pencil with him to edit his badge on the spot ;)

Yeah, I wasn't sure what they needed the data for. To further abuse an
already discredited meme: I could take a space pen, but a pencil seems
sufficiently sophisticated. ;-)

sincerely,
Kim Bruning
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