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May 7, 2012, 8:27 AM

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Screen Artifacts question

On my Mediawiki installation I use some links to Wikipedia, Wiktionary,
Mediawiki; for providing completeness to some supporting but not
essential areas.

If I use this as the link:
{{wikipedia::Inductive reasoning}}

I get a page that has the site logo and border instructions and menu
from my website overlaid onto the Wikipedia page. This does not happen
every time I use this type of link, only about 15% of the time.

If I use this link;
{{raw:wikipedia::Inductive reasoning}}

The page format is correct, but of course the Templates & links within
the transcluded page do not work.

The fact that it varies from linked content, to linked content, tells me
that there is something I am doing wrong or that there is some element
of formatting that I'm missing.

Any ideas/tips, etc.
Thanks!
frosty

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Platonides at gmail

May 7, 2012, 8:42 AM

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Re: Screen Artifacts question [In reply to]

On 07/05/12 17:27, John W. Foster wrote:
> On my Mediawiki installation I use some links to Wikipedia, Wiktionary,
> Mediawiki; for providing completeness to some supporting but not
> essential areas.
>
> If I use this as the link:
> {{wikipedia::Inductive reasoning}}
>
> I get a page that has the site logo and border instructions and menu
> from my website overlaid onto the Wikipedia page. This does not happen
> every time I use this type of link, only about 15% of the time.
>
> If I use this link;
> {{raw:wikipedia::Inductive reasoning}}
>
> The page format is correct, but of course the Templates & links within
> the transcluded page do not work.
>
> The fact that it varies from linked content, to linked content, tells me
> that there is something I am doing wrong or that there is some element
> of formatting that I'm missing.
>
> Any ideas/tips, etc.
> Thanks!
> frosty

I assume you're using the scary transclusion?
Can you provide a link to such page?

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jfoster81747 at verizon

May 7, 2012, 9:15 AM

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Re: Screen Artifacts question [In reply to]

On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 17:42 +0200, Platonides wrote:
> On 07/05/12 17:27, John W. Foster wrote:
> > On my Mediawiki installation I use some links to Wikipedia, Wiktionary,
> > Mediawiki; for providing completeness to some supporting but not
> > essential areas.
> >
> > If I use this as the link:
> > {{wikipedia::Inductive reasoning}}
> >
> > I get a page that has the site logo and border instructions and menu
> > from my website overlaid onto the Wikipedia page. This does not happen
> > every time I use this type of link, only about 15% of the time.
> >
> > If I use this link;
> > {{raw:wikipedia::Inductive reasoning}}
> >
> > The page format is correct, but of course the Templates & links within
> > the transcluded page do not work.
> >
> > The fact that it varies from linked content, to linked content, tells me
> > that there is something I am doing wrong or that there is some element
> > of formatting that I'm missing.
> >
> > Any ideas/tips, etc.
> > Thanks!
> > frosty
>
> I assume you're using the scary transclusion?
Yep!
> Can you provide a link to such page?

www.physicswiki.net

use search function for;

Inductive reasoning

Pardon the slowness of the link, please.
Thanks for the quick response.

>
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May 7, 2012, 2:23 PM

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Re: Screen Artifacts question [In reply to]

On 07/05/12 18:15, John W. Foster wrote:
>> I assume you're using the scary transclusion?
> Yep!
>> Can you provide a link to such page?
>
> www.physicswiki.net

You know that you can directly use freedns for the dynamic ip, removing
the need of dyndns and the frame, right?

> use search function for;
>
> Inductive reasoning

The page is incomplete. If you look at the html source, you'll see the
page content ends at:
<tr style="height:2px

This causes a mismatch which the skin, which is then placed incorrectly.

> Pardon the slowness of the link, please.
> Thanks for the quick response.

The slow connection is probably responsible that many of your requests
get truncated. However, MediaWiki should have been smarter and detect that.

I have added such detection at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6874
Adding that patch into your wiki should fix it (it will show an increase
of fetching errors, but it's preferable than accepting and caching bogus
data).

Also, you should enable curl extension if you're not using it.

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jfoster81747 at gmail

May 7, 2012, 7:15 PM

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Re: Screen Artifacts question [In reply to]

On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 23:23 +0200, Platonides wrote:
> On 07/05/12 18:15, John W. Foster wrote:
> >> I assume you're using the scary transclusion?
> > Yep!
> >> Can you provide a link to such page?
> >
> > www.physicswiki.net
>
> You know that you can directly use freedns for the dynamic ip, removing
> the need of dyndns and the frame, right?
Yes, I'm aware of it. Just haven't taken the time to do it. Guess I will
now. LOL

>
>
> > use search function for;
> >
> > Inductive reasoning
>
> The page is incomplete. If you look at the html source, you'll see the
> page content ends at:
> <tr style="height:2px
>
> This causes a mismatch which the skin, which is then placed incorrectly.
>
> > Pardon the slowness of the link, please.
> > Thanks for the quick response.
>
> The slow connection is probably responsible that many of your requests
> get truncated. However, MediaWiki should have been smarter and detect that.
>
> I have added such detection at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6874
> Adding that patch into your wiki should fix it (it will show an increase
> of fetching errors, but it's preferable than accepting and caching bogus
> data).
WOW that went completely over my head. At least over my skill set. I
have no idea how to patch the Mediawiki. Can you point me to some
instructions? If it's just adding a file, no prob. But I'm guessing this
is actually patching the Mediawiki core. Is this in the new 1.19
releases? I'm running 1.18 & perhaps an upgrade will manage the issue???

>

Will Do!!
Thanks

> Also, you should enable curl extension if you're not using it.

>
> Regards
>
>
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jfoster81747 at gmail

May 7, 2012, 9:54 PM

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Re: Screen Artifacts question [In reply to]

On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 23:23 +0200, Platonides wrote:

>
> I have added such detection at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6874
> Adding that patch into your wiki should fix it (it will show an increase
> of fetching errors, but it's preferable than accepting and caching bogus
> data).
OK I figured out how to do this and its done.
>
> Also, you should enable curl extension if you're not using it.
There seem to be several extensions that have cURL in the process, but
no Extension:cURL or the like. Did see Extension:WikiCurl. A more
precise name maybe?
thanks!
frosty

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May 8, 2012, 2:53 PM

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Re: Screen Artifacts question [In reply to]

On 08/05/12 06:54, John W. Foster wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 23:23 +0200, Platonides wrote:
>
>>
>> I have added such detection at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6874
>> Adding that patch into your wiki should fix it (it will show an increase
>> of fetching errors, but it's preferable than accepting and caching bogus
>> data).
> OK I figured out how to do this and its done.
>>
>> Also, you should enable curl extension if you're not using it.
> There seem to be several extensions that have cURL in the process, but
> no Extension:cURL or the like. Did see Extension:WikiCurl. A more
> precise name maybe?
> thanks!
> frosty

I mean, php curl extension. If there's an entry for that on a php
phpinfo, then you have it.

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jfoster81747 at verizon

May 12, 2012, 4:27 PM

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Re: Screen Artifacts question [In reply to]

On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 23:53 +0200, Platonides wrote:
> On 08/05/12 06:54, John W. Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 23:23 +0200, Platonides wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I have added such detection at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/6874
> >> Adding that patch into your wiki should fix it (it will show an increase
> >> of fetching errors, but it's preferable than accepting and caching bogus
> >> data).
> > OK I figured out how to do this and its done.
> >>
> >> Also, you should enable curl extension if you're not using it.
> > There seem to be several extensions that have cURL in the process, but
> > no Extension:cURL or the like. Did see Extension:WikiCurl. A more
> > precise name maybe?
> > thanks!
> > frosty
>
> I mean, php curl extension. If there's an entry for that on a php
> phpinfo, then you have it.

OK I did install the php curl module along with Extension:WikiCurl and
it seemed that did the trick...for a while. I updated my Debian Php with
a stable upgrade and now none of the {{wikipedia::linkname}} work. I,m
not sure what caused it. I am sure thats what caused it. see new post
with "[Mediawiki-l] Issue with recent Php5 update" as the subject.
Thanks for sticking with me on this. I,m trying to get this site ready
to be moved to a remote hosting server & really need to get the bugs (of
my own doing) worked out.
Thanks
frosty

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