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tony.molloy at ul

Oct 9, 2009, 12:21 AM

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Is it possible to copy pages

HI,

I'm new to wikis and mediawiki in particular. In order to learn how mediawiki
and wikitext works I'm building a "Wiki Primer" wiki for our students to use
with lots of examples and have two problems.

1. I've seen that you can move and rename pages but is it possible to copy
pages
copy pageX to pageY
and have them separately editable afterwards.

2. If I have a big page ( way too big ) with several sections. Is it possible
to make each section into it's own page.

Now I know I can do both of these with cut-and-paste but I was just wondering
if there is an easier way.

Thanks,

Tony
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Oct 9, 2009, 7:26 AM

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Re: Is it possible to copy pages [In reply to]

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Tony Molloy <tony.molloy [at] ul> wrote:

>
> HI,
>
> I'm new to wikis and mediawiki in particular. In order to learn how
> mediawiki
> and wikitext works I'm building a "Wiki Primer" wiki for our students to
> use
> with lots of examples and have two problems.
>
> 1. I've seen that you can move and rename pages but is it possible to copy
> pages
> copy pageX to pageY
> and have them separately editable afterwards.
>
>
You can kind of do this by using the following code:

<inputbox> type=create preload=XYZ width=40 </inputbox>

This will create a new page at the title that is put into the input box
using the content from the page of the value XYZ. This would mean that the
code about could be put on the main page with preload=Main Page and then
users could insert there own page title to copy it to and the page content
of Main Page would then be loaded into the edit box of the new page ready to
be saved (users would have to save, this does not automatically do it and
would load the edit interface for the new page)

2. If I have a big page ( way too big ) with several sections. Is it
> possible
> to make each section into it's own page.
>
>
It is possible to both link to and edit only specific sections of a page.
To link to an section titled history just put #history on the end of the
url (ie wikilink would be [[Cheese#History|History of cheese]].

Hope this helps,

Regards

Mark

>
> Now I know I can do both of these with cut-and-paste but I was just
> wondering
> if there is an easier way.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
> --
>
> Dept. of Comp. Sci.
> University of Limerick.
>
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tony.molloy at ul

Oct 9, 2009, 10:16 AM

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Re: Is it possible to copy pages [In reply to]

On Friday 09 October 2009 15:26:44 Mark (Markie) wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Tony Molloy <tony.molloy [at] ul> wrote:
> > HI,
> >
> > I'm new to wikis and mediawiki in particular. In order to learn how
> > mediawiki
> > and wikitext works I'm building a "Wiki Primer" wiki for our students to
> > use
> > with lots of examples and have two problems.
> >
> > 1. I've seen that you can move and rename pages but is it possible to
> > copy pages
> > copy pageX to pageY
> > and have them separately editable afterwards.
>
> You can kind of do this by using the following code:
>
> <inputbox> type=create preload=XYZ width=40 </inputbox>
>
> This will create a new page at the title that is put into the input box
> using the content from the page of the value XYZ. This would mean that the
> code about could be put on the main page with preload=Main Page and then
> users could insert there own page title to copy it to and the page content
> of Main Page would then be loaded into the edit box of the new page ready
> to be saved (users would have to save, this does not automatically do it
> and would load the edit interface for the new page)
>
> 2. If I have a big page ( way too big ) with several sections. Is it
>
> > possible
> > to make each section into it's own page.
>
> It is possible to both link to and edit only specific sections of a page.
> To link to an section titled history just put #history on the end of the
> url (ie wikilink would be [[Cheese#History|History of cheese]].
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Regards
>
> Mark

Thanks Mark,

Tony
>
> > Now I know I can do both of these with cut-and-paste but I was just
> > wondering
> > if there is an easier way.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> > --
> >
> > Dept. of Comp. Sci.
> > University of Limerick.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l [at] lists
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l [at] lists
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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danb at VistaPrint

Oct 9, 2009, 11:06 AM

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Re: Is it possible to copy pages [In reply to]

It's worth mentioning that on a real wiki, you want to do as little copying as possible.

If a piece of information is found on Page X, and you copy it to Page Y, then pages X and Y are now dependent on each other. If you change one, you have to remember to update the other or else it goes out of date.

In real life, on a wiki you want to maintain properly, you would use a different approach. Here are several:

* Link from page Y to page X
* Pull the information from page X into page Y automatically, using transclusion
* Make a template and transclude into both pages X and Y

Copying should be your last resort. It is the death of good information resources.

DanB

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tony.molloy at ul

Oct 12, 2009, 12:21 AM

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Re: Is it possible to copy pages [In reply to]

On Friday 09 October 2009 19:06:41 Daniel Barrett wrote:
> It's worth mentioning that on a real wiki, you want to do as little copying
> as possible.
>
> If a piece of information is found on Page X, and you copy it to Page Y,
> then pages X and Y are now dependent on each other. If you change one, you
> have to remember to update the other or else it goes out of date.
>

That's not quite what I wanted. This is basically a test Wiki. I have 1 page
which has become very large with lots of sections. What I was thinking of was
making several copies of the page and then editing each separately to only
leave the sections I wanted..

A bit of cut-and-paste did the job and I learned to plan my pages better in
future ;-)

Tony

> In real life, on a wiki you want to maintain properly, you would use a
> different approach. Here are several:
>
> * Link from page Y to page X
> * Pull the information from page X into page Y automatically, using
> transclusion * Make a template and transclude into both pages X and Y
>
> Copying should be your last resort. It is the death of good information
> resources.
>
> DanB
>
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Oct 12, 2009, 2:27 AM

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Re: Is it possible to copy pages [In reply to]

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Duplicator

I'm using it and it works quite well.

Laurent
http://www.wikimini.org

2009/10/12 Tony Molloy <tony.molloy [at] ul>

> On Friday 09 October 2009 19:06:41 Daniel Barrett wrote:
> > It's worth mentioning that on a real wiki, you want to do as little
> copying
> > as possible.
> >
> > If a piece of information is found on Page X, and you copy it to Page Y,
> > then pages X and Y are now dependent on each other. If you change one,
> you
> > have to remember to update the other or else it goes out of date.
> >
>
> That's not quite what I wanted. This is basically a test Wiki. I have 1
> page
> which has become very large with lots of sections. What I was thinking of
> was
> making several copies of the page and then editing each separately to only
> leave the sections I wanted..
>
> A bit of cut-and-paste did the job and I learned to plan my pages better in
> future ;-)
>
> Tony
>
> > In real life, on a wiki you want to maintain properly, you would use a
> > different approach. Here are several:
> >
> > * Link from page Y to page X
> > * Pull the information from page X into page Y automatically, using
> > transclusion * Make a template and transclude into both pages X and Y
> >
> > Copying should be your last resort. It is the death of good information
> > resources.
> >
> > DanB
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l [at] lists
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dept. of Comp. Sci.
> University of Limerick.
>
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