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marius.treitz at i-u

Aug 10, 2005, 11:16 AM

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WikiSuite (new project proposal) - related to "Wiki light" thread

Dear all,

the discussion about "Wiki light" inspired me to propose a new
project. I called it WikiSuite for now (I couldn't come up with anything
better...). The idea is to create a program that lets wiki users browse
the wiki half online/offline. The basic features are improved editing
functions (wysiwig editing), improved caching, more features, less work
for the servers, ... another feature could be distributed servers,
meaning every user of the program can part of his computer's resources
be a "Wiki server".

Much more detailed information concerning the project proposal can be
found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiSuite
The "official" project proposal is located here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects#WikiSuite

By the way: I like the name "Wiki light". If that project would work
out, maybe that could be its name...

Greetings,

Marius Treitz


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rowan.collins at gmail

Aug 10, 2005, 11:27 AM

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Re: WikiSuite (new project proposal) - related to "Wiki light" thread [In reply to]

On 10/08/05, Marius Treitz <marius.treitz [at] i-u> wrote:
> the discussion about "Wiki light" inspired me to propose a new
> project. I called it WikiSuite for now (I couldn't come up with anything
> better...). The idea is to create a program that lets wiki users browse
> the wiki half online/offline.

There has been discussion of similar things before - see for instance
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Client The most advanced
program I've seen actually exist outside a developer's enthusiastic
imagination is the Eclipse plugin - see http://www.plog4u.org

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_tools is also well
worth browsing - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor, for
instance, looks interesting...

Actually, what would be worthwhile would be a thorough reorganisation
of all these pages, as there are a lot of projects which are probably
duplicating effort which could be collabourating...
--
Rowan Collins BSc
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erik_moeller at gmx

Aug 10, 2005, 4:17 PM

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Marius Treitz:

> the discussion about "Wiki light" inspired me to propose a new
> project. I called it WikiSuite for now (I couldn't come up with anything
> better...). The idea is to create a program that lets wiki users browse
> the wiki half online/offline. The basic features are improved editing
> functions (wysiwig editing), improved caching, more features, less work
> for the servers, ... another feature could be distributed servers,
> meaning every user of the program can part of his computer's resources
> be a "Wiki server".

What you are proposing is not so much a new project (like Wikibooks,
Wikinews etc.), but a new piece of software. Our software priorities are
generally set by the people who write code; that is, you are welcome to
write the tools you describe. Beyond that, we're maintaining a list at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Development_tasks of potential projects
to work on.

Together with the rest of the Wikimedia Research Team - see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research_Team - I will soon try
to submit some recommendations to the Board for targeted development.
Targeted development, as I see it, would mean putting out a call for
participation, and if no volunteers can be found, paying someone to do it.

Personally, I think built-in WYSIWYG support would be a first, very
important step. A dedicated offline editor would be useful, but is a
much bigger project to undertake and exceeds our current resources.
Ross Mayfield of SocialText has expressed some interest in their
developers working together with ours on a WYSIWYG standard, so I will
follow up with him on that and see if we can get something started in
that area.

So, my recommendation is to take it slowly. We're aware of what is
technologically possible, but we have to prioritize according to our
needs and available resources.

Best,

Erik
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gerard.meijssen at gmail

Aug 10, 2005, 11:51 PM

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Re: WikiSuite (new project proposal) - related to "Wiki light" thread [In reply to]

Erik Moeller wrote:

> Marius Treitz:
>
>> the discussion about "Wiki light" inspired me to propose a new
>> project. I called it WikiSuite for now (I couldn't come up with
>> anything better...). The idea is to create a program that lets wiki
>> users browse the wiki half online/offline. The basic features are
>> improved editing functions (wysiwig editing), improved caching, more
>> features, less work for the servers, ... another feature could be
>> distributed servers, meaning every user of the program can part of
>> his computer's resources be a "Wiki server".
>
>
> What you are proposing is not so much a new project (like Wikibooks,
> Wikinews etc.), but a new piece of software. Our software priorities
> are generally set by the people who write code; that is, you are
> welcome to write the tools you describe. Beyond that, we're
> maintaining a list at
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Development_tasks of potential projects
> to work on.
>
> Together with the rest of the Wikimedia Research Team - see
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research_Team - I will soon
> try to submit some recommendations to the Board for targeted
> development. Targeted development, as I see it, would mean putting out
> a call for participation, and if no volunteers can be found, paying
> someone to do it.
>
> Personally, I think built-in WYSIWYG support would be a first, very
> important step. A dedicated offline editor would be useful, but is a
> much bigger project to undertake and exceeds our current resources.
> Ross Mayfield of SocialText has expressed some interest in their
> developers working together with ours on a WYSIWYG standard, so I will
> follow up with him on that and see if we can get something started in
> that area.
>
> So, my recommendation is to take it slowly. We're aware of what is
> technologically possible, but we have to prioritize according to our
> needs and available resources.
>
> Best,
>
> Erik

Hoi,
There is a Java tool that was built for another wiki engine that does
WYSIWYG. I have informed about it before. At the time they expressed
some intrest in adapting the program so that it will work for Mediawiki.
It is just a matter of us wanting to cooperate with people outside our
own community....
Thanks,
GerardM
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