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phoebe.wiki at gmail

Sep 20, 2012, 1:01 PM

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[Wikimedia-l] OT / Fwd: [STS-L] FINAL TERMINATION OF THE NBII on September 30, 2012

(off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)

The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as
government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to
collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data,
especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other
places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal/server.pt/community/nbii_home/236

Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis
advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc.
is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to
imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term
(though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may --
ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most
resilient long-term platforms).

-- phoebe



----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Frederick Stoss" <fstoss [at] buffalo>
....

Please pass this on to other library associations and their
appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.



You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of
the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure
(NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated
on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and
re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII
Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official
wording about the termination of this once important and richly
populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States,
and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and
tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US
biomes:



“In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National
Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S.
Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery
Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the
NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of
databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On
January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov
URL were removed from the internet.

“This website currently provides the latest information on
communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web
sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII
Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on
September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on
that date. The termination information provided here will be made
available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”

Note those last two sentences:



“ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012,
and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The
termination information provided here will be made available on the
USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”

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george.herbert at gmail

Sep 20, 2012, 1:24 PM

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OT / Fwd: [STS-L] FINAL TERMINATION OF THE NBII on September 30, 2012 [In reply to]

Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?

I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and
data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some
time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets
and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it
back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter
expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.


-george william herbert
george.herbert [at] gmail

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki [at] gmail> wrote:
> (off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
>
> The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as
> government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to
> collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data,
> especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other
> places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
> http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal/server.pt/community/nbii_home/236
>
> Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis
> advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc.
> is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to
> imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term
> (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may --
> ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most
> resilient long-term platforms).
>
> -- phoebe
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: "Frederick Stoss" <fstoss [at] buffalo>
> ....
>
> Please pass this on to other library associations and their
> appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
>
>
>
> You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of
> the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure
> (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated
> on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and
> re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII
> Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official
> wording about the termination of this once important and richly
> populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States,
> and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and
> tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US
> biomes:
>
>
>
> “In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National
> Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S.
> Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery
> Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the
> NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of
> databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On
> January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov
> URL were removed from the internet.
>
> “This website currently provides the latest information on
> communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web
> sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII
> Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on
> September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on
> that date. The termination information provided here will be made
> available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
>
> Note those last two sentences:
>
>
>
> “ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012,
> and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The
> termination information provided here will be made available on the
> USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimedia-l mailing list
> Wikimedia-l [at] lists
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l



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meta.sj at gmail

Sep 20, 2012, 2:29 PM

Post #3 of 5 (276 views)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OT / Fwd: [STS-L] FINAL TERMINATION OF THE NBII on September 30, 2012 [In reply to]

That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help. Could
someone with government contacts find out what that would entail and what
their primary maintenance expenses were?
On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, "George Herbert" <george.herbert [at] gmail> wrote:

> Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?
>
> I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and
> data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some
> time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets
> and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it
> back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter
> expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.
>
>
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert [at] gmail
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki [at] gmail>
> wrote:
> > (off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
> >
> > The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as
> > government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to
> > collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data,
> > especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other
> > places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
> >
> http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal/server.pt/community/nbii_home/236
> >
> > Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis
> > advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc.
> > is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to
> > imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term
> > (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may --
> > ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most
> > resilient long-term platforms).
> >
> > -- phoebe
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
> > From: "Frederick Stoss" <fstoss [at] buffalo>
> > ....
> >
> > Please pass this on to other library associations and their
> > appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
> >
> >
> >
> > You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of
> > the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure
> > (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated
> > on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and
> > re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII
> > Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official
> > wording about the termination of this once important and richly
> > populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States,
> > and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and
> > tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US
> > biomes:
> >
> >
> >
> > “In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National
> > Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S.
> > Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery
> > Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the
> > NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of
> > databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On
> > January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov
> > URL were removed from the internet.
> >
> > “This website currently provides the latest information on
> > communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web
> > sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII
> > Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on
> > September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on
> > that date. The termination information provided here will be made
> > available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
> >
> > Note those last two sentences:
> >
> >
> >
> > “ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012,
> > and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The
> > termination information provided here will be made available on the
> > USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list
> > Wikimedia-l [at] lists
> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>
>
>
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert [at] gmail
>
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phoebe.wiki at gmail

Sep 20, 2012, 3:26 PM

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OT / Fwd: [STS-L] FINAL TERMINATION OF THE NBII on September 30, 2012 [In reply to]

At this late date, collaborating with/supporting the Archive (who's
already picked up a lot of it) or similar would probably be the most
efficient solution. If it wasn't clear below, a lot of this particular
project involved pointing out towards other sources hosted elsewhere,
(which may or may not still be online) as well as hosting some data
locally; not sure how we'd help preserve that curation value.

-- phoebe

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj [at] gmail> wrote:
> That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help. Could
> someone with government contacts find out what that would entail and what
> their primary maintenance expenses were?
> On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, "George Herbert" <george.herbert [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>> Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?
>>
>> I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and
>> data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some
>> time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets
>> and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it
>> back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter
>> expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.
>>
>>
>> -george william herbert
>> george.herbert [at] gmail
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki [at] gmail>
>> wrote:
>> > (off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
>> >
>> > The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as
>> > government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to
>> > collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data,
>> > especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other
>> > places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
>> >
>> http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal/server.pt/community/nbii_home/236
>> >
>> > Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis
>> > advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc.
>> > is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to
>> > imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term
>> > (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may --
>> > ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most
>> > resilient long-term platforms).
>> >
>> > -- phoebe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> > From: "Frederick Stoss" <fstoss [at] buffalo>
>> > ....
>> >
>> > Please pass this on to other library associations and their
>> > appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of
>> > the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure
>> > (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated
>> > on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and
>> > re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII
>> > Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official
>> > wording about the termination of this once important and richly
>> > populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States,
>> > and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and
>> > tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US
>> > biomes:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > “In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National
>> > Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S.
>> > Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery
>> > Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the
>> > NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of
>> > databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On
>> > January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov
>> > URL were removed from the internet.
>> >
>> > “This website currently provides the latest information on
>> > communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web
>> > sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII
>> > Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on
>> > September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on
>> > that date. The termination information provided here will be made
>> > available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
>> >
>> > Note those last two sentences:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > “ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012,
>> > and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The
>> > termination information provided here will be made available on the
>> > USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Wikimedia-l mailing list
>> > Wikimedia-l [at] lists
>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -george william herbert
>> george.herbert [at] gmail
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>>
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meta.sj at gmail

Sep 21, 2012, 4:50 AM

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OT / Fwd: [STS-L] FINAL TERMINATION OF THE NBII on September 30, 2012 [In reply to]

Where there is a chunk of primary source material or data, I'd like to see
Wikisource become the editable frontend to the description pages that the
Archive uses to describe the data they are archiving. We know how to do
that, categorize it, add context and internal links, and help people
translate it.

You say things like "I don't know what happened to the data files that were
hosted."
That's the sort of information that one would find out in writing the lede
of such a description page.

SJ

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki [at] gmail> wrote:

> At this late date, collaborating with/supporting the Archive (who's
> already picked up a lot of it) or similar would probably be the most
> efficient solution. If it wasn't clear below, a lot of this particular
> project involved pointing out towards other sources hosted elsewhere,
> (which may or may not still be online) as well as hosting some data
> locally; not sure how we'd help preserve that curation value.
>
> -- phoebe
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj [at] gmail> wrote:
> > That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help.
> Could
> > someone with government contacts find out what that would entail and what
> > their primary maintenance expenses were?
> > On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, "George Herbert" <george.herbert [at] gmail>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be appropriate?
> >>
> >> I.e., is the Foundation perhaps hosting and curating these apps and
> >> data a reasonable project for us to take on? Even if it took some
> >> time to return some of the apps to usable, bringing over the data sets
> >> and software to an archival location and offering to host turning it
> >> back on again if the prior researchers or another subject matter
> >> expert stepped up to help with that seems possible.
> >>
> >>
> >> -george william herbert
> >> george.herbert [at] gmail
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki [at] gmail>
> >> wrote:
> >> > (off-topic for Wikimedia, on-topic for access to knowledge in general)
> >> >
> >> > The below news is sad, but not unusual, and increasingly common as
> >> > government budgets shrink. The NBII was a multi-year effort to
> >> > collect, curate and make accessible sources of biological data,
> >> > especially about the US. The site is archived here, among other
> >> > places; I don't know what happened to the data files that were hosted.
> >> >
> >>
> http://wayback.archive-it.org/2361/20120105233212/http://www.nbii.gov/portal/server.pt/community/nbii_home/236
> >> >
> >> > Mostly, I think this is a reminder that what we do vis a vis
> >> > advocating for free licenses, reusable data, distributed curation etc.
> >> > is *important*. It's a safeguard against failure that's hard to
> >> > imagine in the short-term but almost inevitable in the long-term
> >> > (though in the world of knowledge projects, Wikimedia may --
> >> > ironically and surprisingly enough! -- end up being one of the most
> >> > resilient long-term platforms).
> >> >
> >> > -- phoebe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >> > From: "Frederick Stoss" <fstoss [at] buffalo>
> >> > ....
> >> >
> >> > Please pass this on to other library associations and their
> >> > appropriate science and environmental units, especially SLA.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You may recall the modest clamor late last year with the shuttering of
> >> > the Website of the National Biological Information Infrastructure
> >> > (NBII) within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which was terminated
> >> > on October 1, 2011, as a result of a Federal budget cut and
> >> > re-organization within the USGS. The final elimination of the NBII
> >> > Website takes place at the end of this month. Here is the official
> >> > wording about the termination of this once important and richly
> >> > populated data resource on the flora and fauna of the United States,
> >> > and detailed inventories of resources, services, publications and
> >> > tools related to biodiversity, ecology and related aspects of the US
> >> > biomes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > “In the President's budget for Fiscal Year 2012, the National
> >> > Biological Information Infrastructure (NBII), a program under the U.S.
> >> > Geological Survey’s Biological Information Management and Delivery
> >> > Program, was terminated. As a result, the funding that facilitated the
> >> > NBII Node partnerships, as well as the development and maintenance of
> >> > databases, applications and systems, is no longer available. On
> >> > January 15, 2012, all NBII websites/applications with an *.nbii.gov
> >> > URL were removed from the internet.
> >> >
> >> > “This website currently provides the latest information on
> >> > communications with partners, the disposition status of NBII Web
> >> > sites, data and applications, and general FAQs related to the NBII
> >> > Program’s termination. The NBII Program close-out will be complete on
> >> > September 30, 2012, and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on
> >> > that date. The termination information provided here will be made
> >> > available on the USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
> >> >
> >> > Note those last two sentences:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > “ The NBII Program close-out will be complete on September 30, 2012,
> >> > and the www.nbii.gov URL will be turned off on that date. The
> >> > termination information provided here will be made available on the
> >> > USGS FAQ site after September 30, 2012.”
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list
> >> > Wikimedia-l [at] lists
> >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> -george william herbert
> >> george.herbert [at] gmail
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Wikimedia-l mailing list
> >> Wikimedia-l [at] lists
> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
> >>
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>
>
>
> --
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> <at> gmail.com *
>
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