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rupert.thurner at gmail

May 1, 2012, 2:28 PM

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[Wikimedia-l] article feedback tool, do the links really point where they should to?

when looking at an article, a little "improve this page" popped up at
the bottom. can it be that some of the links are misguided?

"learn how to edit" does not link to the "learn how to edit" page
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing).
but it links on a page telling how to navigate around, how to create
an account, and how to edit.

the "learn how to edit" page,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing
does not contain a short reason or wizard to create an account.

the help icon "?" pops up a little window saying "wikipedia wants to
know what you think".

on this little pop up there is a link "learn more" (about wikipedia
wants to know what you think obviously?) which then links to a help
page showing on top an image (png) where one should enter the
feedback. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5/Help)

then i tried to type in feedback into that image - which finally made
me write this mail :)

rupert.

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rupert.thurner at gmail

May 1, 2012, 2:34 PM

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] article feedback tool, do the links really point where they should to? [In reply to]

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, rupert THURNER
<rupert.thurner [at] gmail> wrote:
> when looking at an article, a little "improve this page" popped up at
> the bottom. can it be that some of the links are misguided?
>
> "learn how to edit" does not link to the "learn how to edit" page
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing).
> but it links on a page telling how to navigate around, how to create
> an account, and how to edit.
>
> the "learn how to edit" page,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing
> does not contain a short reason or wizard to create an account.
>
> the help icon "?" pops up a little window saying "wikipedia wants to
> know what you think".
>
> on this little pop up there is a link "learn more" (about wikipedia
> wants to know what you think obviously?) which then links to a help
> page showing on top an image (png) where one should enter the
> feedback. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5/Help)
>
> then i tried to type in feedback into that image - which finally made
> me write this mail :)

and - if you really press edit - one ends up at an article saying:

This article has a long history of vandalism. Please note that such
disruption will be met with blocks from editing. Please report
vandalism on this article to the administrator's vandalism
noticeboard.
This article uses British English and spellings such as "artefacts"
should not be changed to American English spellings such as
"artifacts".
Thank you.

Note: This page has been semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed
users can edit it. If you need any help getting started with editing,
see the New contributors' help page.


rupert

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okeyes at wikimedia

May 2, 2012, 2:06 PM

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] article feedback tool, do the links really point where they should to? [In reply to]

Thanks for bringing these issues up, Rupert :).

So, in reverse order (because I'm contrary like that!):

*The directing-people-to-edit-semi-protected-or-protected-pages issue is a
known problem :(. We're hoping to correct it in our next deployment (this
Thursday) or the following Thursday so that people aren't confronted with
such confusing messages.

*The tutorial doesn't link directly to the "edit" page, no; we thought it
would be too jarring :). Do people think we should link directly there? I'm
not adverse to doing so.

*The "learn more" text could use some clarification; I'll bring it up and
see if the designers/developers/product people think we should alter it in
the next deployment.

Thanks for these really helpful suggestions; please feel free to send me
any more you think of :)

On 1 May 2012 22:34, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner [at] gmail> wrote:

> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, rupert THURNER
> <rupert.thurner [at] gmail> wrote:
> > when looking at an article, a little "improve this page" popped up at
> > the bottom. can it be that some of the links are misguided?
> >
> > "learn how to edit" does not link to the "learn how to edit" page
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing).
> > but it links on a page telling how to navigate around, how to create
> > an account, and how to edit.
> >
> > the "learn how to edit" page,
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Editing
> > does not contain a short reason or wizard to create an account.
> >
> > the help icon "?" pops up a little window saying "wikipedia wants to
> > know what you think".
> >
> > on this little pop up there is a link "learn more" (about wikipedia
> > wants to know what you think obviously?) which then links to a help
> > page showing on top an image (png) where one should enter the
> > feedback. (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5/Help
> )
> >
> > then i tried to type in feedback into that image - which finally made
> > me write this mail :)
>
> and - if you really press edit - one ends up at an article saying:
>
> This article has a long history of vandalism. Please note that such
> disruption will be met with blocks from editing. Please report
> vandalism on this article to the administrator's vandalism
> noticeboard.
> This article uses British English and spellings such as "artefacts"
> should not be changed to American English spellings such as
> "artifacts".
> Thank you.
>
> Note: This page has been semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed
> users can edit it. If you need any help getting started with editing,
> see the New contributors' help page.
>
>
> rupert
>
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