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dphelps at wikimedia

Sep 16, 2009, 4:59 PM

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Hello Everyone,

I'd like to announce the upcoming office move for the Wikimedia
Foundation. We have outgrown the current office space in the SOMA
district of San Francisco. This was a great space for us when we
first landed in SF, but it's small, and we've been over capacity for
several months now. We want to provide space that enables the staff
to get their work done (including sufficient meeting space and
collaborative space, which we don't currently have) and we'd also like
to be open to other people spending time with us, including hosting
local meet-ups, and visits (including workspace) from out-of-town
community members, Board and Advisory Board members, and people from
like-minded organizations. None of that has been possible in the
current space.

A move was approved as part of our 2009-10 annual plan, and we started
looking for space a few months ago. There are many good things about
looking when we did; the local commercial real estate market is in a
low point which afforded us the ability to find larger spaces for less
$$ per square foot, and the vacancy rate allowed us to be very
thoughtful about where we ended up.

We ran a highly collaborative internal site selection process, which
included some good conversations about accessibility, openness and
brand fit. (For example, being near South Park, the heart of dot-com
land, has not been ideal for us from a brand perspective. Lots of
people assume Wikipedia is a dot-com, and we don't want to
accidentally encourage that misunderstanding.)

In the end, one location was the shining beacon that as a group we all
agreed 100% on. I have never worked with an open, collaborative
office move process in the past and I certainly didn't expect we'd
find a space that we all liked and were excited about, but we did. It
met all of our current needs and should accommodate us in the years to
come as it offers expandability and flexibility. Today, we signed the
lease, and we will move in mid-to-late October.

As many of you may know, we have been somewhat secretive with our
current address. We made this decision for several reasons, the
largest concern was for staff safety and reduction of interruptions
that would keep us from our work. The offices of any big website are
vulnerable to all kinds of stalkers and gawkers, and -unlike Google or
Yahoo or AOL- we don't have elaborate sign-in processes, security
staff, or armies of receptionists intercepting visitors. Our current
space is on a back alley and the ground floor, with no security, so we
have been worried about the safety of the staff.

On reflection though, we don't think being secretive about the address
was a good idea. It ran counter to our values of openness and
transparency, and it wasn't successful: anyone interested was easily
able to find our address. And, our new office is somewhat more
secure: it's on a busy street, we'll be on the third floor, and there
is a security person on-site. So, we have decided not to continue to
try to keep the address hidden. It will be posted on the website and
will be on our business cards and office stationery. There is still
the risk that we may have interruptions, but we are putting in place
safe-guards to reduce this while also looking to the future and how we
can be more receptive and approachable.

Having said that, I invite you all to Google the new location to see
for yourselves where we will be:

149 New Montgomery Street, 3rd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94105. Our
phone and fax numbers will remain the same.

Another positive aspect that will come with this move is the ability
to repatriate the Wikipedia Usability team. As our current office did
not have enough space for them, we had to find nearby subleased office
space. This move will allow us all to be under one roof and will
allow us to freely collaborate with them, something we all value
immensely.

We do have some additional time on our current lease and will be
looking to sublease the office space or turn it over to someone who
will take it as a direct lease and remove us from the responsibility.
We have had much interest since we started looking and have a short
list of possible sub-lessors. Our hope is to have the office leased
out by the end of November 2009.

We look forward to the future in our new location and hope that we get
a chance to have you all visit us. We will do our best to post photos
as we settle in so that people can imagine us all in our new setting.

--
Daniel Phelps
Wikimedia Foundation

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thomas.dalton at gmail

Sep 16, 2009, 5:23 PM

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2009/9/17 Daniel Phelps <dphelps [at] wikimedia>:
> We look forward to the future in our new location and hope that we get
> a chance to have you all visit us.  We will do our best to post photos
> as we settle in so that people can imagine us all in our new setting.

This sounds very exciting! Until you get some photos, is this the place?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=149+New+Montgomery+Street,+3rd+Floor,+San+Francisco,+CA+94105&sll=37.786555,-122.399604&sspn=0.008886,0.01929&ie=UTF8&ll=37.786802,-122.399737&spn=0.000278,0.000603&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=37.786802,-122.399737&panoid=o1HKtiN5txSMU7LGzfPPYw&cbp=12,42.53,,0,-8.62

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george.herbert at gmail

Sep 16, 2009, 5:57 PM

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The only useful parking near there is at 3rd and Jessie, or southeast
of the building, but if everyone can commute in it's a safe walk from
BART.

Congrats!


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Daniel Phelps <dphelps [at] wikimedia> wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'd like to announce the upcoming office move for the Wikimedia
> Foundation.  We have outgrown the current office space in the SOMA
> district of San Francisco.  This was a great space for us when we
> first landed in SF, but it's small, and we've been over capacity for
> several months now.  We want to provide space that enables the staff
> to get their work done (including sufficient meeting space and
> collaborative space, which we don't currently have) and we'd also like
> to be open to other people spending time with us, including hosting
> local meet-ups, and visits (including workspace) from out-of-town
> community members, Board and Advisory Board members, and people from
> like-minded organizations.  None of that has been possible in the
> current space.
>
> A move was approved as part of our 2009-10 annual plan, and we started
> looking for space a few months ago.   There are many good things about
> looking when we did; the local commercial real estate market is in a
> low point which afforded us the ability to find larger spaces for less
> $$ per square foot, and the vacancy rate allowed us to be very
> thoughtful about where we ended up.
>
> We ran a highly collaborative internal site selection process, which
> included some good conversations about accessibility, openness and
> brand fit.  (For example, being near South Park, the heart of dot-com
> land, has not been ideal for us from a brand perspective. Lots of
> people assume Wikipedia is a dot-com, and we don't want to
> accidentally encourage that misunderstanding.)
>
> In the end, one location was the shining beacon that as a group we all
> agreed 100% on.  I have never worked with an open, collaborative
> office move process in the past and I certainly didn't expect we'd
> find a space that we all liked and were excited about, but we did.  It
> met all of our current needs and should accommodate us in the years to
> come as it offers expandability and flexibility.  Today, we signed the
> lease, and we will move in mid-to-late October.
>
> As many of you may know, we have been somewhat secretive with our
> current address.  We made this decision for several reasons, the
> largest concern was for staff safety and reduction of interruptions
> that would keep us from our work.  The offices of any big website are
> vulnerable to all kinds of stalkers and gawkers, and -unlike Google or
> Yahoo or AOL- we don't have elaborate sign-in processes, security
> staff, or armies of receptionists intercepting visitors.  Our current
> space is on a back alley and the ground floor, with no security, so we
> have been worried about the safety of the staff.
>
> On reflection though, we don't think being secretive about the address
> was a good idea.  It ran counter to our values of openness and
> transparency, and it wasn't successful: anyone interested was easily
> able to find our address.   And, our new office is somewhat more
> secure: it's on a busy street, we'll be on the third floor, and there
> is a security person on-site.  So, we have decided not to continue to
> try to keep the address hidden.  It will be posted on the website and
> will be on our business cards and office stationery.  There is still
> the risk that we may have interruptions, but we are putting in place
> safe-guards to reduce this while also looking to the future and how we
> can be more receptive and approachable.
>
> Having said that, I invite you all to Google the new location to see
> for yourselves where we will be:
>
> 149 New Montgomery Street, 3rd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94105.  Our
> phone and fax numbers will remain the same.
>
> Another positive aspect that will come with this move is the ability
> to repatriate the Wikipedia Usability team.  As our current office did
> not have enough space for them, we had to find nearby subleased office
> space.  This move will allow us all to be under one roof and will
> allow us to freely collaborate with them, something we all value
> immensely.
>
> We do have some additional time on our current lease and will be
> looking to sublease the office space or turn it over to someone who
> will take it as a direct lease and remove us from the responsibility.
> We have had much interest since we started looking and have a short
> list of possible sub-lessors.   Our hope is to have the office leased
> out by the end of November 2009.
>
> We look forward to the future in our new location and hope that we get
> a chance to have you all visit us.  We will do our best to post photos
> as we settle in so that people can imagine us all in our new setting.
>
> --
> Daniel Phelps
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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sgardner at wikimedia

Sep 16, 2009, 6:17 PM

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2009/9/16 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton [at] gmail>:
> 2009/9/17 Daniel Phelps <dphelps [at] wikimedia>:
>> We look forward to the future in our new location and hope that we get
>> a chance to have you all visit us.  We will do our best to post photos
>> as we settle in so that people can imagine us all in our new setting.
>
> This sounds very exciting! Until you get some photos, is this the place?
>
> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=149+New+Montgomery+Street,+3rd+Floor,+San+Francisco,+CA+94105&sll=37.786555,-122.399604&sspn=0.008886,0.01929&ie=UTF8&ll=37.786802,-122.399737&spn=0.000278,0.000603&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=37.786802,-122.399737&panoid=o1HKtiN5txSMU7LGzfPPYw&cbp=12,42.53,,0,-8.62
>

Yes, that's it! We'll try to put some photos on Commons next time we
have access to the space - within a few weeks. The interior has a
nice feel/tone -- it's not tremendously different from what we have
now, just bigger.

George is correct too about the lack of parking. We found ourselves
making a number of tradeoffs (e.g., "car versus public transit": we
are majority public transit people. "Ground floor
open-to-random-passersby versus upper-floor less-porous": we are not
big enough to be open to the general public, with tours and data
displays and so forth.). They were good conversations, about who we
are and how we imagine ourselves both as a group of people, and as an
organization.

The neighbourhood is good for us -- it's neutral messaging-wise, it
offers easy public transit access via the BART train system (which
goes to the airport), it's awash in cheap, interesting restaurants,
plus it's very busy, which should equate to safer. Overall, I think
being there will enable us (as Daniel said) to engage more easily with
local people and with visitors :-)

Thanks,
Sue

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meta.sj at gmail

Sep 16, 2009, 6:52 PM

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Repatriate the Usability Team - very nice. That looks like a lovely
part of town.

Thanks for the update, Daniel. Someone should tell the story of how
it was scouted just in the nick of time... SJ

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Daniel Phelps <dphelps [at] wikimedia> wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'd like to announce the upcoming office move for the Wikimedia
> Foundation.  We have outgrown the current office space in the SOMA
> district of San Francisco.  This was a great space for us when we
> first landed in SF, but it's small, and we've been over capacity for
> several months now.  We want to provide space that enables the staff
> to get their work done (including sufficient meeting space and
> collaborative space, which we don't currently have) and we'd also like
> to be open to other people spending time with us, including hosting
> local meet-ups, and visits (including workspace) from out-of-town
> community members, Board and Advisory Board members, and people from
> like-minded organizations.  None of that has been possible in the
> current space.
>
> A move was approved as part of our 2009-10 annual plan, and we started
> looking for space a few months ago.   There are many good things about
> looking when we did; the local commercial real estate market is in a
> low point which afforded us the ability to find larger spaces for less
> $$ per square foot, and the vacancy rate allowed us to be very
> thoughtful about where we ended up.
>
> We ran a highly collaborative internal site selection process, which
> included some good conversations about accessibility, openness and
> brand fit.  (For example, being near South Park, the heart of dot-com
> land, has not been ideal for us from a brand perspective. Lots of
> people assume Wikipedia is a dot-com, and we don't want to
> accidentally encourage that misunderstanding.)
>
> In the end, one location was the shining beacon that as a group we all
> agreed 100% on.  I have never worked with an open, collaborative
> office move process in the past and I certainly didn't expect we'd
> find a space that we all liked and were excited about, but we did.  It
> met all of our current needs and should accommodate us in the years to
> come as it offers expandability and flexibility.  Today, we signed the
> lease, and we will move in mid-to-late October.
>
> As many of you may know, we have been somewhat secretive with our
> current address.  We made this decision for several reasons, the
> largest concern was for staff safety and reduction of interruptions
> that would keep us from our work.  The offices of any big website are
> vulnerable to all kinds of stalkers and gawkers, and -unlike Google or
> Yahoo or AOL- we don't have elaborate sign-in processes, security
> staff, or armies of receptionists intercepting visitors.  Our current
> space is on a back alley and the ground floor, with no security, so we
> have been worried about the safety of the staff.
>
> On reflection though, we don't think being secretive about the address
> was a good idea.  It ran counter to our values of openness and
> transparency, and it wasn't successful: anyone interested was easily
> able to find our address.   And, our new office is somewhat more
> secure: it's on a busy street, we'll be on the third floor, and there
> is a security person on-site.  So, we have decided not to continue to
> try to keep the address hidden.  It will be posted on the website and
> will be on our business cards and office stationery.  There is still
> the risk that we may have interruptions, but we are putting in place
> safe-guards to reduce this while also looking to the future and how we
> can be more receptive and approachable.
>
> Having said that, I invite you all to Google the new location to see
> for yourselves where we will be:
>
> 149 New Montgomery Street, 3rd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94105.  Our
> phone and fax numbers will remain the same.
>
> Another positive aspect that will come with this move is the ability
> to repatriate the Wikipedia Usability team.  As our current office did
> not have enough space for them, we had to find nearby subleased office
> space.  This move will allow us all to be under one roof and will
> allow us to freely collaborate with them, something we all value
> immensely.
>
> We do have some additional time on our current lease and will be
> looking to sublease the office space or turn it over to someone who
> will take it as a direct lease and remove us from the responsibility.
> We have had much interest since we started looking and have a short
> list of possible sub-lessors.   Our hope is to have the office leased
> out by the end of November 2009.
>
> We look forward to the future in our new location and hope that we get
> a chance to have you all visit us.  We will do our best to post photos
> as we settle in so that people can imagine us all in our new setting.
>
> --
> Daniel Phelps
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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erik at wikimedia

Sep 16, 2009, 7:03 PM

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2009/9/16 Sue Gardner <sgardner [at] wikimedia>:
> 2009/9/16 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton [at] gmail>:
>> 2009/9/17 Daniel Phelps <dphelps [at] wikimedia>:
>>> We look forward to the future in our new location and hope that we get
>>> a chance to have you all visit us.  We will do our best to post photos
>>> as we settle in so that people can imagine us all in our new setting.
>>
>> This sounds very exciting! Until you get some photos, is this the place?
>>
>> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=149+New+Montgomery+Street,+3rd+Floor,+San+Francisco,+CA+94105&sll=37.786555,-122.399604&sspn=0.008886,0.01929&ie=UTF8&ll=37.786802,-122.399737&spn=0.000278,0.000603&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=37.786802,-122.399737&panoid=o1HKtiN5txSMU7LGzfPPYw&cbp=12,42.53,,0,-8.62

If you "turn around", you'll see the historic PacBell building on the
other side:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PacBell_Building

> we are not big enough to be open to the general public, with tours and data
> displays and so forth.

We never ended up mounting permanent data displays at Stillman, but I
do think we should rig up something for the new space - a
recent-changes live feed, and perhaps real-time images from Commons (
http://toolserver.org/~para/Commons:Special:NewFiles ) if we're
willing to tolerate the occasional inappropriate image. ;-)

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liamwyatt at gmail

Sep 16, 2009, 7:56 PM

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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Erik Moeller <erik [at] wikimedia> wrote:

> 2009/9/16 Sue Gardner <sgardner [at] wikimedia>:
> > 2009/9/16 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton [at] gmail>:
> >> 2009/9/17 Daniel Phelps <dphelps [at] wikimedia>:
> >>> We look forward to the future in our new location and hope that we get
> >>> a chance to have you all visit us. We will do our best to post photos
> >>> as we settle in so that people can imagine us all in our new setting.
> >>
> >> This sounds very exciting! Until you get some photos, is this the place?
> >>
> >>
> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=149+New+Montgomery+Street,+3rd+Floor,+San+Francisco,+CA+94105&sll=37.786555,-122.399604&sspn=0.008886,0.01929&ie=UTF8&ll=37.786802,-122.399737&spn=0.000278,0.000603&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=37.786802,-122.399737&panoid=o1HKtiN5txSMU7LGzfPPYw&cbp=12,42.53,,0,-8.62
>
> If you "turn around", you'll see the historic PacBell building on the
> other side:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PacBell_Building
>
> > we are not big enough to be open to the general public, with tours and
> data
> > displays and so forth.
>
> We never ended up mounting permanent data displays at Stillman, but I
> do think we should rig up something for the new space - a
> recent-changes live feed, and perhaps real-time images from Commons (
> http://toolserver.org/~para/Commons:Special:NewFiles<http://toolserver.org/%7Epara/Commons:Special:NewFiles>) if we're
> willing to tolerate the occasional inappropriate image. ;-)
>
> Yes, congrats on finding a good new space. Wikimedia's moving up -
literally!
and, in terms of data displays I've always been a fan of WikipediaVision
http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html and maybe a scrolling feed of recent
donations and the donor's comments
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionHistory/en ?

-Liam [[witty lama]]


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meta.sj at gmail

Sep 17, 2009, 3:38 PM

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I'm sure Erik has been dying for the chance to run multilingual
rcbirds in a corner with some custom west-coast birdcalls....

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt [at] gmail> wrote:

> and, in terms of data displays I've always been a fan of WikipediaVision
> http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html and maybe a scrolling feed of recent
> donations and the donor's comments
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionHistory/en ?
>
> -Liam [[witty lama]]

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stvrtg at gmail

Sep 20, 2009, 10:31 PM

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"George Herbert" <george.herbert [at] gmail> wrote:
> The only useful parking near there is at 3rd and Jessie, or southeast
> of the building, but if everyone can commute in it's a safe walk from
> BART.

Well, the main city garage at Mission and 4th to 5th - the largest in
the city and most fairly priced too - is two and a half big blocks
away from NewMont/Natoma, and for any usage its almost always the best
actual parking spot in SOMA for normal people. While parking on
Mission lacks plausibility, parking on Howard St. or south thereof is
at least plausible.

On a side note, there's always been some impressive if not strictly
commercial talent at the 'school of "art"' across the street. It could
be fruitful to try exploit some of that talent for focused article
illustration projects.

-Stevertigo

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