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Aug 31, 2009, 10:13 AM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you!

I wasn't there, but I'll echo Erik, Ting and Jerry - from everything
I've read, the organizers did a great job and really represented the
Wikimedia community well. Thanks for your hard work and
congratulations on a job well done.

Nathan

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Aug 31, 2009, 1:18 PM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

Nathan, 31/08/2009 19:13:
> I wasn't there, but I'll echo Erik, Ting and Jerry - from everything
> I've read, the organizers did a great job and really represented the
> Wikimedia community well. Thanks for your hard work and
> congratulations on a job well done.

And, videos are great, so I'm enjoying many presentations. :-D
You can find them here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2009_presentations
(they're still being uploaded).
Thank you!

Nemo

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Sep 1, 2009, 5:50 PM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

Nathan wrote:
> I wasn't there, but I'll echo Erik, Ting and Jerry - from everything
> I've read, the organizers did a great job and really represented the
> Wikimedia community well. Thanks for your hard work and
> congratulations on a job well done.
>
> Nathan
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After having been a member of the past 5 Wikimanias, I have to outline
how nicely organized everything was. Indeed, the bar is raised very very
high now for the future events.
Great program, great people, great food, great parties. Even
unexpectedly warm winter weather. Patricio, you were worried the first
day about the two event location... that was no trouble whatsoever.
Thank you as well for the videos and live streaming, and for the
translation service.

Yeah, all of you guys did a great job !

ant

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Sep 3, 2009, 1:31 PM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

Indeed, what Florence & everyone said -- this year's Wikimania was
fantastic. There were several details that especially shone:

- the great swag; the book was my favorite part
- the welcome dinner and all the nice information for arriving attendees
- the tight moderation & room volunteer team, who kept everything
cracking along on schedule; this team of folks deserves extra applause
- simultaneous translation!!!
- videos of all the talks!!!!
- the great common areas
- coffee all the time :)

I also heard lots of praise for the conference program, and for the
city itself. I also know a lot of work got done, and hundreds of
interesting conversations were had; I hope a lot of good results come
out of this year's conference.

Most of the details I listed above are based on ideas that have come
out of past wikimanias; so I'd encourage everyone to post their
feedback (let's start http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Feedback
for survey-feedback, as well as
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimania_2011)... and if you're
interested, please help out with the planning for next year and future
conferences if you can.

Thanks again to an organized, dedicated and responsive team that spent
the past 18 months working on this conference; your hard work
definitely paid off.

-- phoebe

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Florence Devouard<anthere [at] anthere> wrote:
> Nathan wrote:
>> I wasn't there, but I'll echo Erik, Ting and Jerry - from everything
>> I've read, the organizers did a great job and really represented the
>> Wikimedia community well. Thanks for your hard work and
>> congratulations on a job well done.
>>
>> Nathan

>>
> After having been a member of the past 5 Wikimanias, I have to outline
> how nicely organized everything was. Indeed, the bar is raised very very
> high now for the future events.
> Great program, great people, great food, great parties. Even
> unexpectedly warm winter weather. Patricio, you were worried the first
> day about the two event location... that was no trouble whatsoever.
> Thank you as well for the videos and live streaming, and for the
> translation service.
>
> Yeah, all of you guys did a great job !
>
> ant

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Sep 4, 2009, 1:01 AM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:31 PM, phoebe ayers<phoebe.wiki [at] gmail> wrote:

> - videos of all the talks!!!!

As someone who is unlikely to be able to ever attend a Wikimania
unless it comes to London I'd like to express my gratitude for all the
effort that's gone into that. I've watched quite a few and intend to
watch many more.

There is, however, room for improvement on this front. So here's what
I would like to see, in terms of video, from the next Wikimania:

1. Some of the videos have issues (eg, absent sound for part of the
talk or audio track slowed down to the extent that people sound like
orcs). It would be good if whoever uploads the video would view the
content and try to solve such issues before making them available. If
it's not possible to solve the issue it would be good if they could
annotate the video (eg "sound absent until 2:48") so people are
forewarned and can fast forward to the watchable portion.

2. On many videos, if not most, it is impossible to see the content of
the slides. Could videos be uploaded in higher resolution? Obvious
downsides: larger file size, more bandwidth required. Or maybe all
presenters could be encouraged to upload their presentation slides (I
know some already do this) so people can view along as they listen to
the audio of the talk.

3. On the videos with a Q&A segment the audience often doesn't have a
microphone so the viewer can't hear the questions. Could more talks
provide the audience with a microphone? And where this isn't possible,
could speakers be encouraged to repeat or summarise the question for
the benefit of the camera?

4. More of an observation than a recommendation: as I've watched the
videos most of their respective talk pages have not yet been
contributed to (they're red links). The same can be said for their
entries in the Wikimania schedule. I thought more people would be
wanting to discuss the content of the talks.

Despite my various gripes it's really great to have so many videos, so
thanks to everyone involved.

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Sep 4, 2009, 4:04 AM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

re: the errors, I assume you added those to the talkpage of the files on
commons? That way someone could actually see if it can be fixed :)

thanks!

eia

2009/9/4 Bod Notbod <bodnotbod [at] gmail>

> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:31 PM, phoebe ayers<phoebe.wiki [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> > - videos of all the talks!!!!
>
> As someone who is unlikely to be able to ever attend a Wikimania
> unless it comes to London I'd like to express my gratitude for all the
> effort that's gone into that. I've watched quite a few and intend to
> watch many more.
>
> There is, however, room for improvement on this front. So here's what
> I would like to see, in terms of video, from the next Wikimania:
>
> 1. Some of the videos have issues (eg, absent sound for part of the
> talk or audio track slowed down to the extent that people sound like
> orcs). It would be good if whoever uploads the video would view the
> content and try to solve such issues before making them available. If
> it's not possible to solve the issue it would be good if they could
> annotate the video (eg "sound absent until 2:48") so people are
> forewarned and can fast forward to the watchable portion.
>
> 2. On many videos, if not most, it is impossible to see the content of
> the slides. Could videos be uploaded in higher resolution? Obvious
> downsides: larger file size, more bandwidth required. Or maybe all
> presenters could be encouraged to upload their presentation slides (I
> know some already do this) so people can view along as they listen to
> the audio of the talk.
>
> 3. On the videos with a Q&A segment the audience often doesn't have a
> microphone so the viewer can't hear the questions. Could more talks
> provide the audience with a microphone? And where this isn't possible,
> could speakers be encouraged to repeat or summarise the question for
> the benefit of the camera?
>
> 4. More of an observation than a recommendation: as I've watched the
> videos most of their respective talk pages have not yet been
> contributed to (they're red links). The same can be said for their
> entries in the Wikimania schedule. I thought more people would be
> wanting to discuss the content of the talks.
>
> Despite my various gripes it's really great to have so many videos, so
> thanks to everyone involved.
>
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Sep 4, 2009, 5:34 AM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:04 PM, effe iets
anders<effeietsanders [at] gmail> wrote:

> re: the errors, I assume you added those to the talkpage of the files on
> commons? That way someone could actually see if it can be fixed :)

On the one with absent sound I left a note beneath the video saying at
what point the sound comes in. I thought it more helpful there than on
the talk page as I felt a lot of people might navigate away thinking
the sound would *never* arrive.

I confess I didn't say anything on the one with sound so slowed down
the video was unlistenable, which was remiss of me. I will if I come
across it again.

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Sep 4, 2009, 5:34 AM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

brion at wikimedia

Sep 4, 2009, 11:51 AM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

On 9/4/09 1:01 AM, Bod Notbod wrote:
> 2. On many videos, if not most, it is impossible to see the content of
> the slides. Could videos be uploaded in higher resolution? Obvious
> downsides: larger file size, more bandwidth required. Or maybe all
> presenters could be encouraged to upload their presentation slides (I
> know some already do this) so people can view along as they listen to
> the audio of the talk.

Higher-res versions would be very nice, but would have been much harder
to get done and uploaded as quickly. :) Maybe next year, when we've got
more of the new video upload support in place!

I would definitely encourage everybody to upload slides and link them
with the video versions; PDF slides can be uploaded directly to Commons
and can now be viewed inline as well as downloading them.

> 3. On the videos with a Q&A segment the audience often doesn't have a
> microphone so the viewer can't hear the questions. Could more talks
> provide the audience with a microphone? And where this isn't possible,
> could speakers be encouraged to repeat or summarise the question for
> the benefit of the camera?

Moderators/assistants from the local team were usually pretty good about
getting the microphones around or else reminding the speaker to repeat
questions, but of course this gets forgotten sometimes.

-- brion

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Sep 4, 2009, 1:04 PM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

But could they be uploaded afterwards? (assuming the source files are still
available?)

Lodewijk

2009/9/4 Brion Vibber <brion [at] wikimedia>

> On 9/4/09 1:01 AM, Bod Notbod wrote:
> > 2. On many videos, if not most, it is impossible to see the content of
> > the slides. Could videos be uploaded in higher resolution? Obvious
> > downsides: larger file size, more bandwidth required. Or maybe all
> > presenters could be encouraged to upload their presentation slides (I
> > know some already do this) so people can view along as they listen to
> > the audio of the talk.
>
> Higher-res versions would be very nice, but would have been much harder
> to get done and uploaded as quickly. :) Maybe next year, when we've got
> more of the new video upload support in place!
>
> I would definitely encourage everybody to upload slides and link them
> with the video versions; PDF slides can be uploaded directly to Commons
> and can now be viewed inline as well as downloading them.
>
> > 3. On the videos with a Q&A segment the audience often doesn't have a
> > microphone so the viewer can't hear the questions. Could more talks
> > provide the audience with a microphone? And where this isn't possible,
> > could speakers be encouraged to repeat or summarise the question for
> > the benefit of the camera?
>
> Moderators/assistants from the local team were usually pretty good about
> getting the microphones around or else reminding the speaker to repeat
> questions, but of course this gets forgotten sometimes.
>
> -- brion
>
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Sep 4, 2009, 4:11 PM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

Brion Vibber, 04/09/2009 20:51:
> I would definitely encourage everybody to upload slides and link them
> with the video versions; PDF slides can be uploaded directly to Commons
> and can now be viewed inline as well as downloading them.

Yes, please! They'll be included also in the proceeding's page on
Wikimania wiki (very nice).
You can also upload here:
http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Presentation_slides if
you have copyright problems (e.g. copyrighted embedded screenshots or
whatever).

Nemo

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Sep 14, 2009, 2:47 PM

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Bod Notbod <bodnotbod [at] gmail> wrote:

> [...]
> 2. On many videos, if not most, it is impossible to see the content of
> the slides. Could videos be uploaded in higher resolution? Obvious
> downsides: larger file size, more bandwidth required. Or maybe all
> presenters could be encouraged to upload their presentation slides (I
> know some already do this) so people can view along as they listen to
> the audio of the talk.
> [...]

At another conference, the video switched from the camera
viewpoint to the slides back and forth (I do not know wheth-
er that was done while recording or in post-production). Ob-
viously, this requires more manpower but the result was
worth it.

Tim

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

On 14 Sep 2009, at 22:47, Tim Landscheidt wrote:

> At another conference, the video switched from the camera
> viewpoint to the slides back and forth (I do not know wheth-
> er that was done while recording or in post-production). Ob-
> viously, this requires more manpower but the result was
> worth it.
>
> Tim

The easiest way to do this is to create images of the powerpoint
slides, and add them into the recordings post-production. I believe
that adding images into videos (with fading in/out) is fairly
standard in video editing software. It's something that could be done
by the community a) if they want, and b) if they have the software.

Mike

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Sep 15, 2009, 1:44 AM

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Michael Peel <email [at] mikepeel> wrote:
>
> On 14 Sep 2009, at 22:47, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
>
>> At another conference, the video switched from the camera
>> viewpoint to the slides back and forth (I do not know wheth-
>> er that was done while recording or in post-production). Ob-
>> viously, this requires more manpower but the result was
>> worth it.
>>
>> Tim
>
> The easiest way to do this is to create images of the powerpoint
> slides, and add them into the recordings post-production. I believe
> that adding images into videos (with fading in/out) is fairly
> standard in video editing software. It's something that could be done
> by the community a) if they want, and b) if they have the software.
>
> Mike

In an ideal world, it might be nice to have a video of the speaker and
a slideshow of the presentation available side-by-side in the same
window.

Thanks,
Pharos

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Sep 15, 2009, 2:45 AM

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Thank you! [In reply to]

Hoi,
I just noticed that not only is the video of my presentation about the
MediaWiki Wave integration not online probably lost, I found that the
presentations are also not available on Commons. I assumed that my
slideshows would be put on Commons as I send them when asked. The
presentations are already on slideshare and I used them on my blog(s)..

In an ideal world things will be together.. It is great that we can make it
so.
Thanks,
GerardM

2009/9/15 Pharos <pharosofalexandria [at] gmail>

> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Michael Peel <email [at] mikepeel> wrote:
> >
> > On 14 Sep 2009, at 22:47, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
> >
> >> At another conference, the video switched from the camera
> >> viewpoint to the slides back and forth (I do not know wheth-
> >> er that was done while recording or in post-production). Ob-
> >> viously, this requires more manpower but the result was
> >> worth it.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >
> > The easiest way to do this is to create images of the powerpoint
> > slides, and add them into the recordings post-production. I believe
> > that adding images into videos (with fading in/out) is fairly
> > standard in video editing software. It's something that could be done
> > by the community a) if they want, and b) if they have the software.
> >
> > Mike
>
> In an ideal world, it might be nice to have a video of the speaker and
> a slideshow of the presentation available side-by-side in the same
> window.
>
> Thanks,
> Pharos
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