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aude.wiki at gmail

Jun 29, 2009, 5:13 PM

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Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright?

Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics tool does not indicate
copyright or license status, so it's not clear if I can include a chart on a
Wikipedia page. Does anyone know the license status for the charts?

http://stats.grok.se/

-Aude
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thomas.dalton at gmail

Jun 29, 2009, 5:53 PM

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Re: Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright? [In reply to]

2009/6/30 Aude <aude.wiki[at]gmail.com>:
> Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics tool does not indicate
> copyright or license status, so it's not clear if I can include a chart on a
> Wikipedia page. Does anyone know the license status for the charts?
>
> http://stats.grok.se/

Facts aren't usually copyrightable and I doubt database rights apply
(I don't know much about them, though), so it's just the presentation
of the data in a chart that could potentially be protected. If you
take the numbers and produce your own chart you'll be absolutely fine.
I'm not sure there is enough creativity or work involved in making the
charts for them to be copyrightable anyway.

That said, the easiest solution is probably just to ask the creator to
release them under CC-BY-SA here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Henrik

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p858snake at yahoo

Jun 29, 2009, 7:17 PM

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Re: Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright? [In reply to]

> Facts aren't usually copyrightable and I doubt database rights apply
> (I don't know much about them, though), so it's just the presentation
> of the data in a chart that could potentially be protected. If you
> take the numbers and produce your own chart you'll be absolutely fine.
> I'm not sure there is enough creativity or work involved in making the
> charts for them to be copyrightable anyway.
>
> That said, the easiest solution is probably just to ask the creator to
> release them under CC-BY-SA here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Henrik
>
They might not be, but with that San Francisco bus data issue [1]
happening at the moment, everyone's checking everything these days to
cover their asses.

[1]. The Battle Over Who Owns Bus Arrival Times:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090628/1419595382.shtml

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midom.lists at gmail

Jun 29, 2009, 10:47 PM

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Re: Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright? [In reply to]

On Jun 30, 2009, at 3:13 AM, Aude wrote:

> Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics tool does not indicate
> copyright or license status, so it's not clear if I can include a
> chart on a
> Wikipedia page. Does anyone know the license status for the charts?

base data is in public domain (the one used by Henrik's, and other
tools).
not sure if Henrik has placed any limitations on charts themselves :-)

Domas

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saintonge at telus

Jun 30, 2009, 12:01 AM

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Re: Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright? [In reply to]

K. Peachey wrote:
> They might not be, but with that San Francisco bus data issue [1]
> happening at the moment, everyone's checking everything these days to
> cover their asses.
>
> [1]. The Battle Over Who Owns Bus Arrival Times:
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090628/1419595382.shtml
>
>
So why should a local squabble cause such a paranoid panic?

Ec

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grinapo at gmail

Jun 30, 2009, 1:57 AM

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Re: Wikipedia article traffic statistics - copyright? [In reply to]

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:01, Ray Saintonge<saintonge[at]telus.net> wrote:
>> [1]. The Battle Over Who Owns Bus Arrival Times:
> So why should a local squabble cause such a paranoid panic?

Cos they're living in the United States of Litigations? ;-)

g

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