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anthere9 at yahoo

Oct 31, 2004, 3:27 AM

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Wikinews II

The second point is this one.

A lot of the opposition on the wikinews project is
related to

* dividing community forces (stretching human
resources)

* reduced number of editors will mean less chance for
npov

* breaking news-pressure will push editors to publish
quickly, while nearly 4 years of experience show us
only time and number of editors allow us to approach
npov. As best said by Maha_ts ''Establishing NPOV
within the short time span required for news reporting
will almost be impossible, to any degree of fairness
and accuracy''

* fear of legal issues (consider setting up a legal
team at the same time than wikinews)

* and mostly, concerns on original reporting.

So, overall, though I think the idea of wikinews is
great, and should become a major hit, I think that we
need

- that rules be collectively worked on, so that
concerns voiced by non-supporters are taken into
account. For this, I hope that many editors join the
future project so that we all work on it.

- possibly to get some journalists involved in the
project, so that we get more (or different)
perspective. There are some journalists interested in
wikipedia, and who would feel ready to discuss the
project with us. Or even to join it.

For this reason, and after several discussions here
and there, given the controversial nature of the
project and its likelyhood to get in the sunlights of
media immediately upon its creation (contrarywise to
wikipedia, which had time to polish before it become
known), I would suggest that we try to contact some
interested journalists and possibly have them join a
sort of advisory board. What do you think ?

Anthere

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erik_moeller at gmx

Oct 31, 2004, 4:02 AM

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Re: Wikinews II [In reply to]

Anthere-
> - that rules be collectively worked on, so that
> concerns voiced by non-supporters are taken into
> account. For this, I hope that many editors join the
> future project so that we all work on it.

Obviously; however, many of the objections were not "actionable", that is,
they did not refer to any specific policy, but to the project as a whole
as being undesirable. Any actionable objections shall be discussed in the
usual wiki manner.

> I would suggest that we try to contact some
> interested journalists and possibly have them join a
> sort of advisory board. What do you think ?

Advisory as in giving advice - absolutely. But not in setting the policy
or being called upon to arbitrate matters of user conduct.

Regards,

Erik

anthere9 at yahoo

Oct 31, 2004, 4:24 AM

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Re: Wikinews II [In reply to]

Erik Moeller a écrit:
> Anthere-
>
>>- that rules be collectively worked on, so that
>>concerns voiced by non-supporters are taken into
>>account. For this, I hope that many editors join the
>>future project so that we all work on it.
>
>
> Obviously; however, many of the objections were not "actionable", that is,
> they did not refer to any specific policy, but to the project as a whole
> as being undesirable. Any actionable objections shall be discussed in the
> usual wiki manner.
>
>
>>I would suggest that we try to contact some
>>interested journalists and possibly have them join a
>>sort of advisory board. What do you think ?
>
>
> Advisory as in giving advice - absolutely. But not in setting the policy
> or being called upon to arbitrate matters of user conduct.

Absolutely. As I wrote "advisory".
Deciding policies is community matter and arbitrating is something
totally uncalled for anyone but a collective knowing community life and
rules very well.

That would be a bit like when Jimbo discuss with those defining
licences. They know licenses issues very well, and can both teach us
relevant things, as well as be influenced on how to work on free
licenses issues.

zen19725 at zen

Nov 7, 2004, 8:26 AM

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Re: Wikinews II [In reply to]

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:27:38 -0800 (PST), Anthere
<anthere9 [at] yahoo> wrote:
>
>For this reason, and after several discussions here
>and there, given the controversial nature of the
>project and its likelyhood to get in the sunlights of
>media immediately upon its creation (contrarywise to
>wikipedia, which had time to polish before it become
>known), I would suggest that we try to contact some
>interested journalists and possibly have them join a
>sort of advisory board. What do you think ?

Sounds sensible to me.

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