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geniice at gmail

Jul 15, 2008, 6:29 PM

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2008/7/16 Philippe Beaudette <philippebeaudette [at] gmail>:
> Well that's 15 or 16 out of 50... fully 30%? That's pretty significant.


The error on that figure is massive. You would probably need a couple
of hundred to put together a reasonable estimate.


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stephen.bain at gmail

Jul 15, 2008, 6:45 PM

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Анатолій Гончаров <ahonc.ua [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> Sysops of uk-wp abuse copyright uploading images with wrong licences. Some
> of them uploads non-free images with free licence. Other ones use fairuses
> in templates and userpages. And you may upload ANY image and put license
> {{Fairuse in}} and image will stay on Wikipedia during months.
...
> But last week I had some conflict with one of sysops (Turzh): he made edit
> war (twice revert my edits without comments) and then protect article.

I don't know about the other issues, but I looked into the Turzh issue
when it came up on commons-l yesterday. Turzh has done the right thing
and sent a permissions request to the author of a number of images of
churches hosted on some website, and sent the reply to the OTRS
permissions list. The problem is that, as far as I can tell (from a
machine translation of the OTRS ticket), the author has only licenced
the images under some form of non-commercial licence, but Turzh
uploaded them all under CC-BY-SA.

Honest mistake or not, these images are not available under the
licences that Turzh is claiming them to be under, and they ought to be
deleted unless they can immediately be brought within ukwiki's EDP
(which I'm told is taken from ruwiki's which in turn is taken from
enwiki's, so there is probably not any valid fair use claim unless the
churches photographed are no longer standing).

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millosh at gmail

Jul 16, 2008, 1:23 AM

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On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Christiano Moreschi
> <moreschiwikiman [at] hotmail> wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Do we have a Macedonian Wikipedia? If so, someone should check the images there. So many of the Macedonians on en are just awful when it comes to copyright. One chap even commented that "it's in the blood". Nobody objected.
>>
>
> What the hell is this about?
>
> Christiano, this thread is hopeless enough (as most of us can't
> participate in the discussion anyway due to lack of fluency in
> Ukrainian), so please don't go about spreading rumors and general
> allegations on the Macedonian Wikipedia in corpore.

mk.wp bureaucrats are good Wikimedians. If anyone is willing to talk
to them about copyright issues, I may give contacts.

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