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wiki.ral315 at gmail

Jun 16, 2008, 12:49 AM

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Rethinking IP attribution (was: New draft of privacy policy)

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell [at] gmail> wrote:

> It would be nearly trivial to feed the IP through a 32bit block
> cipher, convert that to base 36 (or just an integer), and use that as
> the user_text. I'm pretty confident that a reasonably clean solution
> wouldn't be hard. ::shrugs:: But does anyone anywhere want that
> behavior in mediawiki?
>

If it meshed well with edits that have already been made while logged out
(very important), allowed administrators to issue effective range blocks
(something that would allow them to issue /28 and /30 blocks, not just /24),
worked with the CheckUser tool easily, etc., it could work.

However, there are also some cultural issuesat play, even outside the
communities. There's certainly the issue of what happens when a large
Wikipedia blocks a governmental agency (on the English Wikipedia,
administrators are cautioned to contact ComCom immediately when they block
the IP range of various world governmental agencies, whose IP ranges are
shown on the block page).

To me, the most worrisome possibility is that it will be seen by people
using WikiScanner, and by the press, as an attempt to cover up malicious
behavior by certain companies or agencies. And while the IPs probably
should be private, I can't say I don't personally like the transparency that
the current system brings for those who fail to create an account,
particularly when it comes to business and government. I can see a
significant amount of backlash from those who don't understand what we're
actually doing, and that it's a matter of privacy, not whitewashing.

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sirfozzie at gmail

Jun 16, 2008, 6:28 AM

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Re: Rethinking IP attribution (was: New draft of privacy policy) [In reply to]

I have to agree with Ryan. While there are potential privacy issues by
identifying users via IP, it would play merry hob with folks who would log
in under their main account to make a point, and then log out and support
that argument as an "Uninvolved" IP Address. There were several problematic
blocked/banned users, where the only way for non-checkusers to identify
these problem users is via IP Addresses. To require Checkuser to verify
EVERY such account instead of the general public would noticeably increase a
Checkusers workload.
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nawrich at gmail

Jun 16, 2008, 12:12 PM

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Re: Rethinking IP attribution (was: New draft of privacy policy) [In reply to]

The simple solution to the problem David notes would seem to be either
automatic or one step conversion for admins from the unique identifier back
to the IP.

Nathan
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