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Apr 27, 2008, 12:39 PM
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To my mind, the potential benefits outweigh the potential risks, unless
someone can create an argument that hasn't occurred to me yet (which is not
un-likely, since this isn't a question I've pondered in great depth).
Philippe
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From: "David Goodman" <dgoodmanny[at]gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:01 PM
To: <birgitte_sb[at]yahoo.com>; "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
<foundation-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list
archivesagain
> absolutely no. G already indexes much too many of the incidental
> discussions at WP.
>
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb[at]yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> I support this especially as url's to old messages are not stable. An
>> effective search is greatly needed. I have spent a long time on occasion
>> for searching for things I am certain exist and came up with nothing.
>>
>> Birgitte SB
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 4/27/08, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Michael Bimmler <mbimmler[at]gmail.com>
>> > Subject: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list
>> archives again
>> > To: "Wikimedia developers" <wikitech-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > Cc: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
>> <foundation-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > Date: Sunday, April 27, 2008, 12:30 PM
>>
>>
>> > [courtesy copy to foundation-l, though I suggest that
>> > discussion, if any, be
>> > centralised on wikitech-l]
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> > the search index for the mailinglist archives was last
>> > rebuilt in January.
>> > Now, after having made quite a few queries about this here
>> > and at other
>> > places, I learnt (and obviously had to accept) that
>> > rebuilding the search
>> > index is quite a resources-consuming process which resulted
>> > in crashes.
>> >
>> > To put it bluntly, I dare suggest from a non-technical POV
>> > that the "htdig"
>> > (that's the name, isn't it?) experiment has failed.
>> > If we can only update
>> > our search index every 6 months or so, it is pointless to
>> > have it.
>> >
>> > Instead, I suggest that
>> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt be modified as
>> > to allow Google (and other search engines) to crawl
>> > /pipermail/ again. I do
>> > not really see the privacy issues of this, nabble, gmane
>> > etc. are
>> > google-searchable as well and I really don't see the
>> > point in barring Google
>> > from our own archive.
>> >
>> > If I am very honest, I do not even remember anymore, why we
>> > decided to bar
>> > Google from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail.
>> > Was it due to privacy concerns? If so, which, and why is
>> > lists.wikimedia.orgas an archive different from
>> > Nabble/Gmane?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > mbimmler[at]gmail.com
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