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Apr 27, 2008, 8:54 PM
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Re: Request to allow Google to search list archivesagain
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Its an open list--if they join it, they can search it.
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Philippe Beaudette
<philippebeaudette[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> To my mind, the potential benefits outweigh the potential risks, unless
> someone can create an argument that hasn't occurred to me yet (which is not
> un-likely, since this isn't a question I've pondered in great depth).
>
> Philippe
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "David Goodman" <dgoodmanny[at]gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:01 PM
> To: <birgitte_sb[at]yahoo.com>; "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
>
> <foundation-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list
>
>
> archivesagain
>
> > absolutely no. G already indexes much too many of the incidental
> > discussions at WP.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb[at]yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> I support this especially as url's to old messages are not stable. An
> >> effective search is greatly needed. I have spent a long time on occasion
> >> for searching for things I am certain exist and came up with nothing.
> >>
> >> Birgitte SB
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 4/27/08, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Michael Bimmler <mbimmler[at]gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list
> >> archives again
> >> > To: "Wikimedia developers" <wikitech-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org>
> >> > Cc: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> >> <foundation-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org>
> >> > Date: Sunday, April 27, 2008, 12:30 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> > [courtesy copy to foundation-l, though I suggest that
> >> > discussion, if any, be
> >> > centralised on wikitech-l]
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > the search index for the mailinglist archives was last
> >> > rebuilt in January.
> >> > Now, after having made quite a few queries about this here
> >> > and at other
> >> > places, I learnt (and obviously had to accept) that
> >> > rebuilding the search
> >> > index is quite a resources-consuming process which resulted
> >> > in crashes.
> >> >
> >> > To put it bluntly, I dare suggest from a non-technical POV
> >> > that the "htdig"
> >> > (that's the name, isn't it?) experiment has failed.
> >> > If we can only update
> >> > our search index every 6 months or so, it is pointless to
> >> > have it.
> >> >
> >> > Instead, I suggest that
> >> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt be modified as
> >> > to allow Google (and other search engines) to crawl
> >> > /pipermail/ again. I do
> >> > not really see the privacy issues of this, nabble, gmane
> >> > etc. are
> >> > google-searchable as well and I really don't see the
> >> > point in barring Google
> >> > from our own archive.
> >> >
> >> > If I am very honest, I do not even remember anymore, why we
> >> > decided to bar
> >> > Google from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail.
> >> > Was it due to privacy concerns? If so, which, and why is
> >> > lists.wikimedia.orgas an archive different from
> >> > Nabble/Gmane?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Michael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Michael Bimmler
> >> > mbimmler[at]gmail.com
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> >>
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