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k_d_guenther at yahoo

Oct 19, 2005, 1:23 AM

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Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons

If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
(a Debian variant) and access the Linux box from Windows XP
using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse splash screen and
all toolbuttons and most icons of the various Eclipse views
appear as completely black rectangles.

Is this a general incompatibility between
VNC4 and Java-based UI's?

Klaus.






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jnw at realvnc

Oct 19, 2005, 2:31 AM

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RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons [In reply to]

Klaus,

Which version of VNC are you running on the server?

What pixel depth is your Xvnc desktop set to?

Regards,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc
> [mailto:vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc] On Behalf Of Klaus D. G|nther
> Sent: 19 October 2005 09:24
> To: vnc-list [at] realvnc
> Subject: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
>
> If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
> (a Debian variant) and access the Linux box from Windows XP
> using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse splash screen and
> all toolbuttons and most icons of the various Eclipse views
> appear as completely black rectangles.
>
> Is this a general incompatibility between
> VNC4 and Java-based UI's?
>
> Klaus.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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k_d_guenther at yahoo

Oct 19, 2005, 3:01 AM

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RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons [In reply to]

James,

I use the vncserver package 3.3.7-7 from Debian,
pixel depth 32 (as on my WinXP box).

Regards,

Klaus.

--- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:

> Klaus,
>
> Which version of VNC are you running on the server?
>
> What pixel depth is your Xvnc desktop set to?
>
> Regards,
>
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc
> > [mailto:vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc] On Behalf Of Klaus D. G|nther
> > Sent: 19 October 2005 09:24
> > To: vnc-list [at] realvnc
> > Subject: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
> >
> > If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
> > (a Debian variant) and access the Linux box from Windows XP
> > using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse splash screen and
> > all toolbuttons and most icons of the various Eclipse views
> > appear as completely black rectangles.
> >
> > Is this a general incompatibility between
> > VNC4 and Java-based UI's?
> >
> > Klaus.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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jnw at realvnc

Oct 19, 2005, 3:38 AM

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RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons [In reply to]

Klaus,

Please upgrade to a recent version of VNC server. You can download a
tarball or RPM for VNC 4.1.1 from http://www.realvnc.com/download.html.

Regards,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klaus D. G|nther [mailto:k_d_guenther [at] yahoo]
> Sent: 19 October 2005 11:01
> To: James Weatherall; vnc-list [at] realvnc
> Subject: RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
>
> James,
>
> I use the vncserver package 3.3.7-7 from Debian,
> pixel depth 32 (as on my WinXP box).
>
> Regards,
>
> Klaus.
>
> --- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:
>
> > Klaus,
> >
> > Which version of VNC are you running on the server?
> >
> > What pixel depth is your Xvnc desktop set to?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc
> > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc] On Behalf Of Klaus D. G|nther
> > > Sent: 19 October 2005 09:24
> > > To: vnc-list [at] realvnc
> > > Subject: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
> > >
> > > If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
> > > (a Debian variant) and access the Linux box from Windows XP
> > > using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse splash screen and
> > > all toolbuttons and most icons of the various Eclipse views
> > > appear as completely black rectangles.
> > >
> > > Is this a general incompatibility between
> > > VNC4 and Java-based UI's?
> > >
> > > Klaus.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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k_d_guenther at yahoo

Oct 19, 2005, 8:00 AM

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RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons [In reply to]

Many thanks for your hints. I have upgraded vncserver, but
it still didn't work. The decisive change was to set
depth=24 instead of 32. Now it works. (I had found the hint
anywhere, I've forgotten where, that the pixel depth should
be the same as on the client computer. But that's apparently
wrong.)

Regards and many thanks,

Klaus.


--- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:

> Klaus,
>
> Please upgrade to a recent version of VNC server. You can download a
> tarball or RPM for VNC 4.1.1 from http://www.realvnc.com/download.html.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Klaus D. G|nther [mailto:k_d_guenther [at] yahoo]
> > Sent: 19 October 2005 11:01
> > To: James Weatherall; vnc-list [at] realvnc
> > Subject: RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
> >
> > James,
> >
> > I use the vncserver package 3.3.7-7 from Debian,
> > pixel depth 32 (as on my WinXP box).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Klaus.
> >
> > --- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:
> >
> > > Klaus,
> > >
> > > Which version of VNC are you running on the server?
> > >
> > > What pixel depth is your Xvnc desktop set to?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc
> > > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc] On Behalf Of Klaus D. G|nther
> > > > Sent: 19 October 2005 09:24
> > > > To: vnc-list [at] realvnc
> > > > Subject: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
> > > >
> > > > If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
> > > > (a Debian variant) and access the Linux box from Windows XP
> > > > using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse splash screen and
> > > > all toolbuttons and most icons of the various Eclipse views
> > > > appear as completely black rectangles.
> > > >
> > > > Is this a general incompatibility between
> > > > VNC4 and Java-based UI's?
> > > >
> > > > Klaus.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Im Hahnbvhl 11A
64342 Seeheim-Jugenheim

Tel.: +49-6257-82475
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jnw at realvnc

Oct 19, 2005, 8:06 AM

Post #6 of 8 (2268 views)
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RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons [In reply to]

Klaus,

It's possible that this is an issue with VNC Server, but to be honest it
sounds more like the JVM you're using is explicitely checking that pixels
are 24-bit and not drawing to the display if they're not, and so won't work
on a 32-bit display in spite of the fact that it's actually using the exact
same pixel format (RGB888).

Cheers,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klaus D. G|nther [mailto:k_d_guenther [at] yahoo]
> Sent: 19 October 2005 16:00
> To: James Weatherall; vnc-list [at] realvnc
> Subject: RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
>
> Many thanks for your hints. I have upgraded vncserver, but
> it still didn't work. The decisive change was to set
> depth=24 instead of 32. Now it works. (I had found the hint
> anywhere, I've forgotten where, that the pixel depth should
> be the same as on the client computer. But that's apparently
> wrong.)
>
> Regards and many thanks,
>
> Klaus.
>
>
> --- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:
>
> > Klaus,
> >
> > Please upgrade to a recent version of VNC server. You can
> download a
> > tarball or RPM for VNC 4.1.1 from
> http://www.realvnc.com/download.html.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Klaus D. G|nther [mailto:k_d_guenther [at] yahoo]
> > > Sent: 19 October 2005 11:01
> > > To: James Weatherall; vnc-list [at] realvnc
> > > Subject: RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
> > >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > I use the vncserver package 3.3.7-7 from Debian,
> > > pixel depth 32 (as on my WinXP box).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Klaus.
> > >
> > > --- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:
> > >
> > > > Klaus,
> > > >
> > > > Which version of VNC are you running on the server?
> > > >
> > > > What pixel depth is your Xvnc desktop set to?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc
> > > > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc] On Behalf Of
> Klaus D. G|nther
> > > > > Sent: 19 October 2005 09:24
> > > > > To: vnc-list [at] realvnc
> > > > > Subject: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
> > > > >
> > > > > If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
> > > > > (a Debian variant) and access the Linux box from Windows XP
> > > > > using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse splash screen and
> > > > > all toolbuttons and most icons of the various Eclipse views
> > > > > appear as completely black rectangles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this a general incompatibility between
> > > > > VNC4 and Java-based UI's?
> > > > >
> > > > > Klaus.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ___________________________________________________________
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> > > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
> ----
>
> Dr. Klaus D. G|nther
> Im Hahnbvhl 11A
> 64342 Seeheim-Jugenheim
>
> Tel.: +49-6257-82475
> http://lavape.sf.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
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scott at smithdomain

Oct 19, 2005, 9:00 AM

Post #7 of 8 (2272 views)
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Re: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons [In reply to]

I get the same effect using the NetBeans IDE if the VNC client
"negotiates" down to a lower color depth. If I then go into my viewer
settings, uncheck "Auto select", and choose Full color level, I see all
the icons when the screen redraws. Does this work for you?

Klaus D. G|nther wrote:

>James,
>
>I use the vncserver package 3.3.7-7 from Debian,
>pixel depth 32 (as on my WinXP box).
>
>Regards,
>
>Klaus.
>
>--- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:
>
>
>
>>Klaus,
>>
>>Which version of VNC are you running on the server?
>>
>>What pixel depth is your Xvnc desktop set to?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc
>>>[mailto:vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc] On Behalf Of Klaus D. G|nther
>>>Sent: 19 October 2005 09:24
>>>To: vnc-list [at] realvnc
>>>Subject: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
>>>
>>>If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
>>>(a Debian variant) and access the Linux box from Windows XP
>>>using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse splash screen and
>>>all toolbuttons and most icons of the various Eclipse views
>>>appear as completely black rectangles.
>>>
>>>Is this a general incompatibility between
>>>VNC4 and Java-based UI's?
>>>
>>>Klaus.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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jnw at realvnc

Oct 19, 2005, 9:09 AM

Post #8 of 8 (2291 views)
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RE: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons [In reply to]

Scott,

Are you sure? The effect Klaus is describing is that icons appear
completely black in his Java applications. The low-colour mode of VNC
Viewer will cause subtle differences in shades of colours to be lost, but
won't turn specific GUI elements from being colourful to being completely
black.

Regards,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: B. Scott Smith [mailto:scott [at] smithdomain]
> Sent: 19 October 2005 17:01
> To: "Klaus D. G|nther"
> Cc: James Weatherall; vnc-list [at] realvnc
> Subject: Re: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
>
> I get the same effect using the NetBeans IDE if the VNC
> client "negotiates" down to a lower color depth. If I then go
> into my viewer settings, uncheck "Auto select", and choose
> Full color level, I see all the icons when the screen
> redraws. Does this work for you?
>
> Klaus D. G|nther wrote:
>
>
> James,
>
> I use the vncserver package 3.3.7-7 from Debian,
> pixel depth 32 (as on my WinXP box).
>
> Regards,
>
> Klaus.
>
> --- James Weatherall <jnw [at] realvnc>
> <mailto:jnw [at] realvnc> schrieb:
>
>
>
> Klaus,
>
> Which version of VNC are you running on the server?
>
> What pixel depth is your Xvnc desktop set to?
>
> Regards,
>
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc
> [mailto:vnc-list-admin [at] realvnc] On
> Behalf Of Klaus D. G|nther
> Sent: 19 October 2005 09:24
> To: vnc-list [at] realvnc
> Subject: Using Eclipse over VNC4: missing icons
>
> If I run the Java-based Eclipse IDE on
> Kanotix 2005-3 Linux
> (a Debian variant) and access the Linux
> box from Windows XP
> using the VNC 4 viewer then the Eclipse
> splash screen and
> all toolbuttons and most icons of the
> various Eclipse views
> appear as completely black rectangles.
>
> Is this a general incompatibility between
> VNC4 and Java-based UI's?
>
> Klaus.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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