bobw at newlifebridge
Nov 18, 2009, 11:30 AM
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Bill,
I think your explanation would have been better received. For someone new to
the technology, the data available can be both confusing and intimidating.
As an instructor on a college level teaching English, I need to constantly
remind myself that not everyone has had the basics or remembers them so I
need to be tolerant of seemly unnecessary questions (many the same) being
asked over and over again.
I am still not sure of this technology or even completely sure as to what to
do with the information once I have it. I will spend some time going back
over things before I ask any more irrelevant questions. As to Alan, I would
ask what part of any of my questions was not intelligent? If I already knew
the answers and understood the technology, I wouldn't have asked anything or
presented any information. I challenge you both to go take a beginning
course in English at your local college and not ask a single "stupid"
question.
Thanks,
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Walton [mailto:bwalton [at] rawbits]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:12 PM
To: spf-help [at] v2
Subject: RE: [spf-help] Need Help Configuring
Bob,
I think Alan is coming from months of frustration. He forgets that most
people come to this list as first-time users, without having read any
historical posts (although this would be a good idea - your question has
been answered about a hundred times and the answers are there for you to
see). He assumes you have read the information on http://www.openspf.org/
which states that it is your outgoing configuration that matters (not MX,
which specifies what server(s) are to receive mail bound for your domain,
and not anything else about your inbound configuration). Yet hundreds of
people insist on talking about MX records, receiving servers, inbound
screening and filtering servers, etc. and confusing the issue - obviously
having ignored all of the good info posted out there. He's happy to help,
but wants people to ask intelligent questions and provide relevant data.
--
Bill Walton
bwalton [at] rawbits
(831) 338-0479
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Wheeler [mailto:bobw [at] newlifebridge]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:53 AM
To: spf-help [at] v2
Subject: RE: [spf-help] Need Help Configuring
Alan, my friend, a little decorum could be in order vis-a-vi "your weird
incoming email or crazy MX setups". After all, how is a novice supposed to
know what information is useful and what is not. If I started my college
classes with such a statement, I doubt I would be teaching for very long.
Thanks,
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: alan [mailto:spfdiscuss [at] alandoherty]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:42 AM
To: spf-help [at] v2
Subject: Re: [spf-help] Need Help Configuring
At 15:09 18/11/2009 Wednesday, Bob Wheeler wrote:
>I run a mail server using a dynamic dns MX record: myserver.com. The server
{again i stress for every bodies sake please people stop telling us anything
about your weird incomming email or crazy MX setups}
A no one cares
B utterly irrelevant to SPF
>sends mail through roadrunner: smtp-rochester.rr.com.
Ok so you have just given all the details you or any reasonable person would
need
> How do I configure spf in this circumstance?
the same way as anyone sending email out via smtp-rochester.rr.com.
first ask roadrunner do they have an SPF record for the use {include} of
users of this host/cluster
if they do use it
if they don't you need to figure out where mail sent into
smtp-rochester.rr.com.
comes out
as this could be a single host, a multihomed host a cluster or a multi-stage
relay
this first email you sent went via
Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com
[71.74.56.125]) by b-lb-mx-sd.listbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id
C51529BE7A
so you need at least 71.74.56.125 in your spf record
now start mailing/looking to build a picture of what other ip's if any are
used by this host to send mail out
or just call roadrunner and pray to get someone with a clue what your asking
on the phone
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