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Jan 20, 2009, 4:47 AM
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RE: Creating SPF record on shared host using Google Apps and PHPList
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Hi Steve,
Many thanks for your response.
My shared Linux hosting provider set things up as follows, in fact this is how I had done it once I found the option in cpanel, but this made me include an ip address too. This is referred to as the "main server interface ip" in the cpanel interface and states that this cannot be removed in the ip4 section.
v=spf1 a mx ip4:xx.xx.xx.xx include:aspmx.googlemail.com ?all
I contacted my host as I was expecting to be able to put "~all" but this couldn't be done through the cpanel interface. Is "?all" regarded the same as "~all"?
This seems to be implemented for any domain hosted on my shared web host account. I have 3 sub domains hosted on the account for the main domain. At the moment all of these use google apps for mail sending with the exception of server generated email for cron jobs. Would it cause a problem if i added a new sub domain that i didnt want to use google apps as my smtp?
kind regards
Justin
> Subject: RE: [spf-help] Creating SPF record on shared host using Google Apps and PHPList
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:57:10 -0600
> From: steve [at] teamITS
> To: spf-help [at] v2
>
> Justin wrote on 1/19/2009 9:31:33 AM:
>
> > [a] Does my web host server send mail from my domain?
> >
> > I think so, PHPList is set up to use smtp account at gmail though, but
> > if this means does this web server pass mail on, I guess it must do to
> > use the smtp settings at gmail?
>
> The overall goal with SPF is to list the mail servers that send
> mail using your domain. You have stated that all mail you send will
> send through Google. This question is asking if the web server itself
> sends mail using your domain name. It sounds like the answer is no.
>
> > [mx] MX records, the wizard has found more than just those set up as
> per
> > google apps instructions, all appear to relate to google though. I
> only
> > have google mx records set up on this domain. Do these mx servers
> also
> > send mail from my domain?
> >
> > Unsure, email is either sent from PHPList using gmail's smtp with my
> credentials,
> > or from Outlook using my gmail smtp settings, or google apps web
> interface.
>
> The wizard has its issues and has been "being worked on" for a
> year or two now. Google typically says to use an include to reference
> their mail servers, which lets them change IP addresses, etc., as they
> wish. So I would just use Google's include and not worry about the
> rest.
>
> > [ptr] I'm guessing from the comments on ptr that the answer should be
> no?
>
> Generally, yes.
>
> > [include:] Do i need to include my isp somewhere as what ever ip
> address i'm
> > allocated when connecting to the internet with t-mobile, although i
> dont use t-
> > mobile's smtp do i still need to include t-mobile as the server
> connecting me to
> > the internet, i'm guessing it's transferring email when i send it, to
> gmail's smtp,
> > but does that mean it originated from my isp's server, and thus should
> be
> > included here?
>
> You would reference the mail server that delivers your message.
> If your wireless device connects to Google via SMTP then you have
> already referenced Google's servers.
>
> > [~all] Im guessing this would be yes, once I know what is correct with
> the above?
>
> Generally use ~all for testing and -all when are happy with your
> SPF record.
>
> So therefore "v=spf1 include:aspmx.googlemail.com ~all" sounds
> right. This says that the only source for mail from your domain is
> whatever Google says.
>
>
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