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accountsjun at sbcglobal

Jan 16, 2007, 9:20 AM

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<dash>-all" instead of."<tilde>~all

This taken from SPF Syntax correct post:

And finally, do you recommend using "<dash>-all" instead of."<tilde>~all"
>> to stop the spoofing?

>
> Yes, I do. Of course you'd write -all vs. ~all, but on most screens
> the difference is hardly noticeable hence me using "<dash>" and "<tilde>".
>
> I'm sure not everybody will agree with me on directly using <dash>-all.
>
> Let me put it this way:
> if you use a tilde now, make *very* sure you publish a new record (using
> dash) in a couple of days or weeks (depending on the amount of mail you
> send). My opinion is that this testing period (because that's what tilde
> is for!) is of little use, if at all.
>
> Alex

Why does the wizard ask:

/Do the above lines describe all the hosts

that send mail from planitsolar.com?

/By clicking in the yes box a file is created containing <tilde> ~all. Do I have to change this file to be <dash>-all in order for it to be effective?

Also, I can't find the tools to test the record anymore since the changes on the website at http://old.openspf.org/index.html.

I am grateful for all of the help I have got through this forum. I'm almost ready to publish my file:

"v=spf1 a mx a:smtpauth.sbcglobal.net a:smtp.sbcglobal.yahoo.com ~all"
or is it <dash>-all?

Paul.

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accountsjun at sbcglobal

Jan 16, 2007, 9:26 AM

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Re: <dash>-all" instead of."<tilde>~all [In reply to]

P+C wrote:
> This taken from SPF Syntax correct post:
>
> And finally, do you recommend using "<dash>-all" instead
> of."<tilde>~all"
>>> to stop the spoofing?
>
>>
>> Yes, I do. Of course you'd write -all vs. ~all, but on most screens
>> the difference is hardly noticeable hence me using "<dash>" and
>> "<tilde>".
>>
>> I'm sure not everybody will agree with me on directly using <dash>-all.
>>
>> Let me put it this way:
>> if you use a tilde now, make *very* sure you publish a new record (using
>> dash) in a couple of days or weeks (depending on the amount of mail you
>> send). My opinion is that this testing period (because that's what
>> tilde
>> is for!) is of little use, if at all.
>>
>> Alex
>
> Why does the wizard ask: /Do the above lines describe all the
> hosts
> that send mail from planitsolar.com?
>
> /By clicking in the yes box a file is created containing <tilde> ~all.
> Do I have to change this file to be <dash>-all in order for it to be
> effective?
>
> Also, I can't find the tools to test the record anymore since the
> changes on the website at http://old.openspf.org/index.html.
>
> I am grateful for all of the help I have got through this forum. I'm
> almost ready to publish my file:
>
> "v=spf1 a mx a:smtpauth.sbcglobal.net a:smtp.sbcglobal.yahoo.com ~all"
> or is it <dash>-all?
>
>
> Paul.
>
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I just found the tools at the bottom of the Wizard.
Paul.

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steve at teamITS

Jan 16, 2007, 9:30 AM

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RE: <dash>-all" instead of."<tilde>~all [In reply to]

P+C <mailto:accountsjun[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote on Tuesday, January 16,
2007 11:20 AM:

> /By clicking in the yes box a file is created containing <tilde> ~all.
Do I
> have to change this file to be <dash>-all in order for it to be
effective?

The current wizard has been around for a while and needs some
help. I suspect ~all was used so that people wouldn't create an SPF
record with incorrect info and suddenly start having their mail bounce.

> Also, I can't find the tools to test the record anymore since the
changes
> on the website at http://old.openspf.org/index.html.

The "new" website moved to "www.openspf.org" so you can find
them there. The new wizard hasn't been completed yet so the old wizard
is being used.

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accountsjun at sbcglobal

Jan 16, 2007, 9:38 AM

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Re: <dash>-all" instead of."<tilde>~all [In reply to]

Steve Yates wrote:
> P+C <mailto:accountsjun[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote on Tuesday, January 16,
> 2007 11:20 AM:
>
>
>> /By clicking in the yes box a file is created containing <tilde> ~all.
>>
> Do I
>
>> have to change this file to be <dash>-all in order for it to be
>>
> effective?
>
> The current wizard has been around for a while and needs some
> help. I suspect ~all was used so that people wouldn't create an SPF
> record with incorrect info and suddenly start having their mail bounce.
>
>
So I have a file ready to send to our web host to change the DNS.
Should this file use tilde first untill I check that it works, then
change it to dash?
Thanks!
Paul

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steve at teamITS

Jan 16, 2007, 9:50 AM

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RE: <dash>-all" instead of."<tilde>~all [In reply to]

P+C <mailto:accountsjun[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote on Tuesday, January 16,
2007 11:39 AM:

> So I have a file ready to send to our web host to change the DNS.
> Should this file use tilde first untill I check that it works, then
> change it to dash?

That's the suggested method. ~ means SoftFail, in other words
the recipient shouldn't outright reject the message. - means Fail, so
the recipient can treat the message as a fake.

http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax

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