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jarif at iki

Oct 22, 2009, 11:19 AM

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Elena wants an iron cast oven

"If you have any old portable oven and in case you don't use it anymore,
we will be very grateful to you if you can donate it to us and organize
transport of this oven to our address (200km from Moscow). This ovens
are different, usually they made from cast iron."

Dozens of these for months already...

What's the business model of this scam? I can't believe they really want
millions of iron cast ovens from all around the world. Maybe I should
answer and ask directly ;D

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Kevin_Miller at ci

Oct 22, 2009, 11:30 AM

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RE: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

Jari Fredriksson wrote:
> "If you have any old portable oven and in case you don't use it
> anymore, we will be very grateful to you if you can donate it to us
> and organize transport of this oven to our address (200km from
> Moscow). This ovens are different, usually they made from cast iron."
>
> Dozens of these for months already...
>
> What's the business model of this scam? I can't believe they really
> want millions of iron cast ovens from all around the world. Maybe I
> should answer and ask directly ;D

Business model? I'd guess their either cleaning their lists via NDR bounces or they're selling the ovens as scrap iron to augment their income...


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guenther at rudersport

Oct 22, 2009, 11:34 AM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 21:19 +0300, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
> "If you have any old portable oven and in case you don't use it anymore,
> we will be very grateful to you if you can donate it to us and organize
> transport of this oven to our address (200km from Moscow). This ovens
> are different, usually they made from cast iron."
>
> Dozens of these for months already...
>
> What's the business model of this scam? I can't believe they really want
> millions of iron cast ovens from all around the world. Maybe I should
> answer and ask directly ;D

Long time since I've last seen one of these...

My impression was, they want money of course. The victim falling for it
sure is much more likely to help the poor people by sending over some
money -- rather than "organizing transport" of an oven. The shipping [1]
costs would exceed the amount of money they'd send anyway.

IIRC some variants even outright mentioned the alternative of money.


[1] Ever sent a crate of beer from Germany to the USA?

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mysqlstudent at gmail

Oct 22, 2009, 11:54 AM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

Hi,

>> What's the business model of this scam? I can't believe they really want
>> millions of iron cast ovens from all around the world. Maybe I should
>> answer and ask directly ;D
>
> Long time since I've last seen one of these...
>
> My impression was, they want money of course. The victim falling for it

Yes, follow the money. It's always about the money. The oven ploy is
just weird enough to attract your attention in hopes of garnering a
response.

Regards,
Alex


jhardin at impsec

Oct 22, 2009, 12:26 PM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Jari Fredriksson wrote:

> What's the business model of this scam? I can't believe they really want
> millions of iron cast ovens from all around the world. Maybe I should
> answer and ask directly ;D

Was the from address something like @dhl.com ? :)

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jarif at iki

Oct 22, 2009, 12:37 PM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

22.10.2009 22:26, John Hardin kirjoitti:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
>
>> What's the business model of this scam? I can't believe they really
>> want millions of iron cast ovens from all around the world. Maybe I
>> should answer and ask directly ;D
>
> Was the from address something like @dhl.com ? :)
>

Nope. dhl.com send malware, but this Elena always sends from elena*@*.ru
in order to look "genuine" ;)

The message does not have any attachments, it is a plain text from a
poor woman in Russia.

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scheidell at secnap

Oct 22, 2009, 1:24 PM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

Jari Fredriksson wrote:
> "If you have any old portable oven and in case you don't use it anymore,
> we will be very grateful to you if you can donate it to us and organize
> transport of this oven to our address (200km from Moscow). This ovens
> are different, usually they made from cast iron."
>
>
they own a shipping company :-)

or they just want you to email them back and validate your email address.
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jarif at iki

Oct 22, 2009, 1:38 PM

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22.10.2009 23:24, Michael Scheidell kirjoitti:
>
>
> Jari Fredriksson wrote:
>> "If you have any old portable oven and in case you don't use it anymore,
>> we will be very grateful to you if you can donate it to us and organize
>> transport of this oven to our address (200km from Moscow). This ovens
>> are different, usually they made from cast iron."
>>
>>
> they own a shipping company :-)
>
> or they just want you to email them back and validate your email address.

This thread probably poisons our bayes (which I'm truly sorry) but as I
checked, the typical mail gets so many points from other rules too, so
that it should not make a difference...

Hope so.

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cat has
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me at junc

Oct 22, 2009, 1:39 PM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

On tor 22 okt 2009 21:37:28 CEST, Jari Fredriksson wrote

> The message does not have any attachments, it is a plain text from a
> poor woman in Russia.

how do you know ?, was there picture in the mail ?, if so how can you
be sure its hir picture ?

oh well never mind :)

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jarif at iki

Oct 22, 2009, 1:47 PM

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22.10.2009 23:39, Benny Pedersen kirjoitti:
> On tor 22 okt 2009 21:37:28 CEST, Jari Fredriksson wrote
>
>> The message does not have any attachments, it is a plain text from a
>> poor woman in Russia.
>
> how do you know ?, was there picture in the mail ?, if so how can you be
> sure its hir picture ?
>

I just know. I'm just about to book a flight and marry her. Trust me,
when I'm serious.

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One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a
cat has
only nine lives.
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tedm at ipinc

Oct 22, 2009, 1:52 PM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On tor 22 okt 2009 21:37:28 CEST, Jari Fredriksson wrote
>
>> The message does not have any attachments, it is a plain text from a
>> poor woman in Russia.
>
> how do you know ?, was there picture in the mail ?, if so how can you be
> sure its hir picture ?

She left nothing to the imagination. ;-)

Tell here to go here:

http://englishrussia.com/?p=2137

plenty of abandoned scrap metal already in Russia.

Ted


jhardin at impsec

Oct 22, 2009, 2:20 PM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> http://englishrussia.com/?p=2137
>
> plenty of abandoned scrap metal already in Russia.

Cool.

I can just hear the announcer in my head:

"...in the epic battle between Man and the swamp, the swamp won."

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mysqlstudent at gmail

Oct 22, 2009, 4:56 PM

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Re: Elena wants an iron cast oven [In reply to]

Hi,

> http://englishrussia.com/?p=2137
>
> plenty of abandoned scrap metal already in Russia.

Maybe they could blow it up like the brain surgeons did to that dead
whale that was littering the beach in Oregon?

# The Infamous Exploding Whale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vmnq5dBF7Y

Alex

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