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jpierce at cambridgeenergyalliance

Oct 22, 2009, 3:23 PM

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VERP {excuse me}

How does one get VERP working with RT exactly? There's a config
setting for a VERP
prefix, but what are you supposed to do with bounced messages coming
in to VERP'd
addresses? I see nothing in the wiki, book, list archives or codebase
about this...

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ruslan.zakirov at gmail

Oct 22, 2009, 3:41 PM

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Re: VERP {excuse me} [In reply to]

Jerrard,

RT doesn't do anything with bounces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_envelope_return_path#How_VERP_solves_the_bounce_handling_problem

Actually VERP in RT is not about recipients as RT sends one mail per
many recipients, but about creator and it's only for you to decide how
to use it.

Grep for VERP in code, it's ~10 lines in one file. Pretty easy to understand.

True VERP can be useful as text of bounces is not standardized and
sometimes it's hard to get recipient out of a bounce message, we even
don't talk about reason of a bounce.

Handling bounces:
http://wiki.bestpractical.com/history/RtBounceHandler

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Jerrad Pierce
<jpierce [at] cambridgeenergyalliance> wrote:
> How does one get VERP working with RT exactly? There's a config
> setting for a VERP
> prefix, but what are you supposed to do with bounced messages coming
> in to VERP'd
> addresses? I see nothing in the wiki, book, list archives or codebase
> about this...
>
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jpierce at cambridgeenergyalliance

Oct 22, 2009, 5:11 PM

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Re: VERP {excuse me} [In reply to]

(Neglected to reply-to all earlier, have added additional info about
current status)

> Grep for VERP in code, it's ~10 lines in one file. Pretty easy to understand.
Right, did that, which is why I was wondering where the other half was,
to which you've responded "roll your own." Fair enough.

It seems a cheap system might be to do:
 #RT_SiteConfig.pm
 Set($VERPPrefix, 'verp+');

 #/etc/aliases
 verp: "|/opt/rt3/bin/rt-mailgate --queue General --action comment --url
https://rt.example.org/"

...except that subject's aren't preserved in bounces

> Handling bounces:
> http://wiki.bestpractical.com/history/RtBounceHandler
Seen it. Never got it to work, and haven't had a chance to get back
around to it, but it would be nice.

It did not work well with the SpamAssassin filter since it seems to pick an
odd sender from the original message (MAILER-DAEMON). I added a minor patch,
which I'll post to the wiki, to use the VERP address if available. With this the
system allowed the comment to be logged.

I'll probably end up creating a wrapper around this though, to set a
flag indicating the user's address is bad; CF{Tags}.='bounce'
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