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charlieb at aurema

May 3, 2000, 4:04 PM

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Re: escape certain mail-adresses vom autoreply.

[Follow up to re-devel]

On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jesse wrote:

> *nod* procmail is the quick workaround. "Real" configurability for this
> will probably come sometime in 2.x. It's not likely in 2.0.

I'm not convinced. Procmail is a mail delivery agent, not a mail transport
agent. Black holing via procmail will no cause bounces.

What exactly is the problem you are trying to solve, and why is more
complexity in RT the correct way to solve it?

> On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 04:25:16PM +0200, robert rotman wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > no, what i ment is to intergrate a domain/mailname list-file in rt.
> > which should escape the autoreply.
> > (maby a file with regex syntax which can easily eval'd by perl)
> > doing that with an MTA would cause bounces and is - in my point of view
> > - not the way this shold be done.
> >
> > robert
> >
> > PS: this is a feature request;)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jesse wrote:
> >
> > > procmail is probably the easiest way to blackhole certain senders.
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 12:44:13PM +0200, robert rotman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi!
> > > >
> > > > how can i make rt not to send autoreplys to predefind mailadresses..
> > > > if that is not possible, is there a quick workaround for this?
> > > >
> > > > thanx in advance,
> > > >
> > > > robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > rt-users mailing list
> > > > rt-users [at] lists
> > > > http://lists.fsck.com/mailman/listinfo/rt-users
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > jesse reed vincent -- jrvincent [at] wesleyan -- jesse [at] fsck
> > > pgp keyprint: 50 41 9C 03 D0 BC BC C8 2C B9 77 26 6F E1 EB 91
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Pelcgb-serrqbz abj!
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > rt-users mailing list
> > > rt-users [at] lists
> > > http://lists.fsck.com/mailman/listinfo/rt-users
> > >
> >
> > ---
> > di. robert rotman inode.graz
> > phone -> ++43-(0)316 813141 ++43-(0)316 818600/15 <- fax
> > rotman [at] inode http://www.graz.inode.at/
> > --
> > this letter was written on recycled bytes used by deleted mail.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> jesse reed vincent -- jrvincent [at] wesleyan -- jesse [at] fsck
> pgp keyprint: 50 41 9C 03 D0 BC BC C8 2C B9 77 26 6F E1 EB 91
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> I think co-ordinating 1000 prima donnas living all over the world will be as
> easy as herding cats..." -- Andy Tanenbaum on the linux development model, 1992
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.fsck.com/mailman/listinfo/rt-users
>


Charlie Brady
Aurema Pty Ltd
PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia
Email:charlieb [at] aurema, Tel: +61 2 9698 2322, Fax: +61 2 9699 9174
"I think it would be a good idea." Gandhi, on Western Civilisation.


jesse at fsck

May 3, 2000, 4:54 PM

Post #2 of 3 (255 views)
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Re: escape certain mail-adresses vom autoreply. [In reply to]

The specific issue I was dealing with was the fact that certainly poorly
designed autoresponders get into rather "animated" discussions with RT.

That may not be what robert was talking about ;)

On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:04:08AM +1000, Charlie Brady wrote:
>
> [Follow up to re-devel]
>
> On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jesse wrote:
>
> > *nod* procmail is the quick workaround. "Real" configurability for this
> > will probably come sometime in 2.x. It's not likely in 2.0.
>
> I'm not convinced. Procmail is a mail delivery agent, not a mail transport
> agent. Black holing via procmail will no cause bounces.
>
> What exactly is the problem you are trying to solve, and why is more
> complexity in RT the correct way to solve it?
>
> > On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 04:25:16PM +0200, robert rotman wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > no, what i ment is to intergrate a domain/mailname list-file in rt.
> > > which should escape the autoreply.
> > > (maby a file with regex syntax which can easily eval'd by perl)
> > > doing that with an MTA would cause bounces and is - in my point of view
> > > - not the way this shold be done.
> > >
> > > robert
> > >
> > > PS: this is a feature request;)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jesse wrote:
> > >
> > > > procmail is probably the easiest way to blackhole certain senders.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 12:44:13PM +0200, robert rotman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > how can i make rt not to send autoreplys to predefind mailadresses..
> > > > > if that is not possible, is there a quick workaround for this?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > > robert
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > rt-users mailing list
> > > > > rt-users [at] lists
> > > > > http://lists.fsck.com/mailman/listinfo/rt-users
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > jesse reed vincent -- jrvincent [at] wesleyan -- jesse [at] fsck
> > > > pgp keyprint: 50 41 9C 03 D0 BC BC C8 2C B9 77 26 6F E1 EB 91
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Pelcgb-serrqbz abj!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > rt-users mailing list
> > > > rt-users [at] lists
> > > > http://lists.fsck.com/mailman/listinfo/rt-users
> > > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > di. robert rotman inode.graz
> > > phone -> ++43-(0)316 813141 ++43-(0)316 818600/15 <- fax
> > > rotman [at] inode http://www.graz.inode.at/
> > > --
> > > this letter was written on recycled bytes used by deleted mail.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > jesse reed vincent -- jrvincent [at] wesleyan -- jesse [at] fsck
> > pgp keyprint: 50 41 9C 03 D0 BC BC C8 2C B9 77 26 6F E1 EB 91
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > I think co-ordinating 1000 prima donnas living all over the world will be as
> > easy as herding cats..." -- Andy Tanenbaum on the linux development model, 1992
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > rt-users mailing list
> > rt-users [at] lists
> > http://lists.fsck.com/mailman/listinfo/rt-users
> >
>
>
> Charlie Brady
> Aurema Pty Ltd
> PO Box 305, Strawberry Hills, NSW 2012, Australia
> Email:charlieb [at] aurema, Tel: +61 2 9698 2322, Fax: +61 2 9699 9174
> "I think it would be a good idea." Gandhi, on Western Civilisation.
>
>

--
jesse reed vincent -- jrvincent [at] wesleyan -- jesse [at] fsck
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tobiasb at tobiasb

May 4, 2000, 1:16 AM

Post #3 of 3 (254 views)
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Re: Re: escape certain mail-adresses vom autoreply. [In reply to]

> What exactly is the problem you are trying to solve, and why is more
> complexity in RT the correct way to solve it?

...as mentionated:

- big volumes of almost equal autoreplies popping up in peoples
mailboxes; this is quite unpopular, I'd say.

- loops with other autoreply software that don't respect the Precedence
header.

Both those things might be solvable with a system sending only one email
(a week) of a given template to each unique email address. I think it
makes sense, and I don't think it's too much complexity - though I'll
postpone it until after 2.0

--
Tobias Brox
aka TobiX
+47 22 925 871

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