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ubershmekel at gmail

Nov 7, 2009, 2:45 PM

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feedback on function introspection in argparse

This was posted to the argparse mailing list by Steven Bethard and now
we'd like some feedback from comp.lang.python.

We now have a branch[5] of argparse that supports an ``argparse.run``
function[6] which does
some function introspection to build a command line parser from a
function definition:

------------------------------ prog.py ------------------------------
import argparse

def func(foo, bar, baz):
"""A function that foo's a bar with a baz.
foo - The foo
bar - The bar to be foo'd
baz - The baz with which to foo.
"""
print foo, bar, baz

if __name__ == '__main__':
argparse.run(func)
------------------------------ cmdline ------------------------------
$ prog.py -h
usage: prog.py [-h] foo bar baz

A function that foo's a bar with a baz.

positional arguments:
foo The foo
bar The bar to be foo'd
baz The baz with which to foo.

optional arguments:
-h, --help show this help message and exit
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd love to hear some feedback on this. At the moment, the code can
introspect argument names, types from defaults, types from annotations
(in Python 3), help messages from docstrings, and knows how to convert
multiple functions into subcommands. The code's compatible and tested
on python 2.3 - 3.1. There are probably more things we could support
[7], but I'd like to get some feedback on what we have so
far. Some specific questions:

* Do you think this is worth including in argparse?
* Would you use the current ``argparse.run`` API in your own code?
* If you wouldn't use it as-is, what additional features/modifications
would you require?

--Steve and Yuv


PS: The authors of pyopt[1], opster[2], optfunc[3] and simpleopt[4]
were CC'd, in the hopes that we can converge to a common API, but they
didn't reply other than the pyopt guy (me) who wrote the patch.
[0] SVN branch at: http://argparse.googlecode.com/svn/branches/function-arguments/
[1] http://code.google.com/p/pyopt/
[2] http://hg.piranha.org.ua/opster/
[3] http://github.com/simonw/optfunc/
[4] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/simpleopt/
[5] http://argparse.googlecode.com/svn/branches/function-arguments/
[6] The branch also adds ``ArgumentParser.add_function_arguments``
which ``argparse.run`` is built on top of. This method allows you to
match function based arguments with other arguments as necessary,
e.g.::
def items(n=10):
return range(n)

parser = argparse.ArgumentParser()
parser.add_function_arguments(items)
parser.add_argument('output_file')
args = parser.parse_args()
with open(args.output_file, 'w') as output_file:
for item in args.items():
output_file.write("%d\n" % item)

[7] I can imagine allowing the introspected values to be overridden
with decorators, though it may be out of the scope of this patch.
e.g.::
@annotate(
dirname=positional(help='...'),
listen=optional('-l', default='localhost', help='ip to listen
on'),
port=optional('-p', default=8000, help='port to listen on'),
...)
def func(dirname, listen='localhost', port=8000, ...):
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debatem1 at gmail

Nov 7, 2009, 3:05 PM

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Re: feedback on function introspection in argparse [In reply to]

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Yuv <ubershmekel[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> This was posted to the argparse mailing list by Steven Bethard and now
> we'd like some feedback from comp.lang.python.
>
> We now have a branch[5] of argparse that supports an ``argparse.run``
> function[6] which does
> some function introspection to build a command line parser from a
> function definition:
>
> ------------------------------ prog.py ------------------------------
> import argparse
>
> def func(foo, bar, baz):
>   """A function that foo's a bar with a baz.
>   foo - The foo
>   bar - The bar to be foo'd
>   baz - The baz with which to foo.
>   """
>   print foo, bar, baz
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>   argparse.run(func)
> ------------------------------ cmdline ------------------------------
> $ prog.py -h
> usage: prog.py [-h] foo bar baz
>
> A function that foo's a bar with a baz.
>
> positional arguments:
>  foo         The foo
>  bar         The bar to be foo'd
>  baz         The baz with which to foo.
>
> optional arguments:
>  -h, --help  show this help message and exit
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Looks great! Very handy.

> I'd love to hear some feedback on this. At the moment, the code can
> introspect argument names, types from defaults, types from annotations
> (in Python 3), help messages from docstrings, and knows how to convert
> multiple functions into subcommands. The code's compatible and tested
> on python 2.3 - 3.1. There are probably more things we could support
> [7], but I'd like to get some feedback on what we have so
> far. Some specific questions:
>
> * Do you think this is worth including in argparse?
> * Would you use the current ``argparse.run`` API in your own code?

yes.

Geremy Condra
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pavlovevidence at gmail

Nov 7, 2009, 3:33 PM

Post #3 of 6 (95 views)
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Re: feedback on function introspection in argparse [In reply to]

On Nov 7, 2:45 pm, Yuv <ubershme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This was posted to the argparse mailing list by Steven Bethard and now
> we'd like some feedback from comp.lang.python.
>
> We now have a branch[5] of argparse that supports an ``argparse.run``
> function[6] which does
> some function introspection to build a command line parser from a
> function definition:
>
> ------------------------------ prog.py ------------------------------
> import argparse
>
> def func(foo, bar, baz):
>    """A function that foo's a bar with a baz.
>    foo - The foo
>    bar - The bar to be foo'd
>    baz - The baz with which to foo.
>    """
>    print foo, bar, baz
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>    argparse.run(func)
> ------------------------------ cmdline ------------------------------
> $ prog.py -h
> usage: prog.py [-h] foo bar baz
>
> A function that foo's a bar with a baz.
>
> positional arguments:
>  foo         The foo
>  bar         The bar to be foo'd
>  baz         The baz with which to foo.
>
> optional arguments:
>  -h, --help  show this help message and exit
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I'd love to hear some feedback on this. At the moment, the code can
> introspect argument names, types from defaults, types from annotations
> (in Python 3), help messages from docstrings, and knows how to convert
> multiple functions into subcommands. The code's compatible and tested
> on python 2.3 - 3.1. There are probably more things we could support
> [7], but I'd like to get some feedback on what we have so
> far. Some specific questions:
>
> * Do you think this is worth including in argparse?
> * Would you use the current ``argparse.run`` API in your own code?
> * If you wouldn't use it as-is, what additional features/modifications
> would you require?

Looks quite useful.

I am not sure I like the name "run", seems to short and innocent for a
function this magical.

Is the docstring expected to be formatted according to some
convention? I don't recognize a docstring convention in the example,
but then I don't bother with them much in my own code, that's why I
ask.


Carl Banks
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ubershmekel at gmail

Nov 7, 2009, 3:44 PM

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Re: feedback on function introspection in argparse [In reply to]

On Nov 8, 1:33 am, Carl Banks <pavlovevide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is the docstring expected to be formatted according to some
> convention?

Yes it does, we parse the docstring as explained in argparse.py:
def _parse_docstring(function):
"""Parses a function's docstring for a description of the function
and for
help on the individual parameters.

The parsing algorithm currently looks for lines that start with a
parameter
name immediately followed by any amount of whitespace, hyphens or
colons.
The rest of the line following the colon/hyphen/whitespace is the
help.

Keyword Arguments:
function - the function whose docstring is parsed.

Returns a (description, help_dict) tuple:
description - all text before the first documented parameter
help_dict - a dictionary mapping parameter names to their help
strings
"""

We tried to comply to PEP 257 and we're open to suggestions on this.

--yuv
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pavlovevidence at gmail

Nov 7, 2009, 5:08 PM

Post #5 of 6 (90 views)
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Re: feedback on function introspection in argparse [In reply to]

On Nov 7, 3:44 pm, Yuv <ubershme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 1:33 am, Carl Banks <pavlovevide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is the docstring expected to be formatted according to some
> > convention?

[snippage]

> We tried to comply to PEP 257 and we're open to suggestions on this.


Ah, so we finally get to the answer: the convention is PEP 257. :)


Carl Banks
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chris at simplistix

Nov 14, 2009, 7:44 AM

Post #6 of 6 (43 views)
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Re: feedback on function introspection in argparse [In reply to]

Yuv wrote:
> On Nov 8, 1:33 am, Carl Banks <pavlovevide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is the docstring expected to be formatted according to some
>> convention?
>
> We tried to comply to PEP 257 and we're open to suggestions on this.

I'd suggest at the very least supporting Sphinx docstrings that have the
parameters in them...

Chris

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