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dblubaugh at belcan

Jan 31, 2008, 5:36 PM

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Will Python on day replace MATLAB?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

To All,

I have been evaluating the python environment ever more closer. I
believe I can interface python with a development environment known as
the ImpulseC environment. The ImpulseC environment develops C to VHDL
for FPGA development. I would especially love to interface Python
with ImpulseC and the graphing capabilities of GNU Plot and SciPy in
order to recreate a VHDL development environment that will be just as
capable as a $50,000 dollar Matlab to VHDL toolbox. This is also a part
of my Masters thesis. Is anyone willing to help in this endeavor?????

David Blubaugh

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ladynikon at gmail

Jan 31, 2008, 5:38 PM

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Re: Will Python on day replace MATLAB????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [In reply to]

Could you please use less question marks.

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jgodoy at gmail

Jan 31, 2008, 5:49 PM

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Danyelle Gragsone wrote:

> Could you please use less question marks.

This is not part of his Masters... :-)
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upton at virginia

Jan 31, 2008, 6:00 PM

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> with ImpulseC and the graphing capabilities of GNU Plot and SciPy in

http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/
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dfabrizio51 at gmail

Jan 31, 2008, 6:34 PM

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> I have been evaluating the python environment ever more closer. I
> believe I can interface python with a development environment known as
> the ImpulseC environment. The ImpulseC environment develops C to VHDL
> for FPGA development. I would especially love to interface Python
> with ImpulseC and the graphing capabilities of GNU Plot and SciPy in
> order to recreate a VHDL development environment that will be just as
> capable as a $50,000 dollar Matlab to VHDL toolbox. This is also a part
> of my Masters thesis. Is anyone willing to help in this endeavor?????
>
> David Blubaugh
>

Why not use MyHDL which is written in Python and translates to
Verilog.
I assume ImpulseC is a commercial product and costs a log. MyHDL is
free.
If you have any interests in combining MyHDL with SciPy and NumPy I
would
be interested in getting involved.

Dan Fabrizio
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mauriceling at gmail

Jan 31, 2008, 8:06 PM

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Re: Will Python on day replace MATLAB????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [In reply to]

Hi David

I am not familiar with ImpulseC.

I think it may be unlikely for Python to replace MATLAB - maybe Python
has less specialized libraries than MATLAB but Python has the width of
applications. I will be hardpressed to think of a convincing argument
to teach MATLAB as a replacement of Python/Perl/C to computer science
undergraduates.

Your question is almost asking will Python replace R/S-Plus? Unlikely.

However, there is Octave (www.octave.org) which states "GNU Octave is
a high-level language, primarily intended for numerical computations.
It provides a convenient command line interface for solving linear and
nonlinear problems numerically, and for performing other numerical
experiments using a language that is mostly compatible with Matlab."
Hence, will it be more suitable for your Masters to study the
implementation of a Python-Octave library? Pretty much like what RPy
and RPython did for R and Python?

Cheers
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bignose+hates-spam at benfinney

Jan 31, 2008, 10:49 PM

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"Danyelle Gragsone" <ladynikon [at] gmail> writes:

> Could you please use less question marks.

Yes, preferably a maximum of one sentence-end punctuation mark per
sentence.

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stef.mientki at gmail

Feb 1, 2008, 4:49 AM

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j.spies at hccnet

Feb 1, 2008, 5:46 AM

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Re: Will Python on day replace MATLAB????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [In reply to]

Stef Mientki wrote:
> Blubaugh, David A. wrote:
>> To All,
>>
>>
>> I have been evaluating the python environment ever more closer. I
>> believe I can interface python with a development environment known as
>> the ImpulseC environment. The ImpulseC environment develops C to VHDL
>> for FPGA development. I would especially love to interface Python
>> with ImpulseC and the graphing capabilities of GNU Plot and SciPy in
>> order to recreate a VHDL development environment that will be just as
>> capable as a $50,000 dollar Matlab to VHDL toolbox. This is also a part
>> of my Masters thesis. Is anyone willing to help in this endeavor?????
>>
> For all common math things SciPy can replace MatLab,
> with the main advantage that every library is open,
> so you're always be able to trace weird results (which was my great
> frustation with MatLab).
>
> If Scipy WILL replace MatLab is more a question of marketing than of
> quality.

Have a look at Sage: http://www.sagemath.org/

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pete.forman at westerngeco

Feb 1, 2008, 7:15 AM

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Jaap Spies <j.spies [at] hccnet> writes:

> Have a look at Sage: http://www.sagemath.org/

Of relevance to SciPy is the following

http://wiki.sagemath.org/days8

| The Sage_ and Scipy_ teams and `Enthought Inc.`_ are pleased to
| announce the first collaborative meeting for Sage/Scipy joint
| development, to be held from February 29 until March 4, 2008 at the
| Enthought headquarters in Austin, Texas.
|
| The purpose of this meeting is to gather developers for these
| projects in a friendly atmosphere for a few days of technical talks
| and active development work. It should be clear to those
| interested in attending that this is *not* an academic conference,
| but instead an opportunity for the two teams to find common points
| for collaboration, joint work, better integration between the
| projects and future directions. The focus of the workshop will be
| to actually *implement* such ideas, not just to plan for them.
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rcdailey at gmail

Feb 1, 2008, 8:12 AM

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Re: Will Python on day replace MATLAB????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [In reply to]

>
> This is not part of his Masters... :-)

Lmfao....

steve at holdenweb

Feb 1, 2008, 8:30 AM

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Re: Will Python on day replace MATLAB? [In reply to]

Pete Forman wrote:
> Jaap Spies <j.spies [at] hccnet> writes:
>
> > Have a look at Sage: http://www.sagemath.org/
>
> Of relevance to SciPy is the following
>
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/days8
>
> | The Sage_ and Scipy_ teams and `Enthought Inc.`_ are pleased to
> | announce the first collaborative meeting for Sage/Scipy joint
> | development, to be held from February 29 until March 4, 2008 at the
> | Enthought headquarters in Austin, Texas.
> |
> | The purpose of this meeting is to gather developers for these
> | projects in a friendly atmosphere for a few days of technical talks
> | and active development work. It should be clear to those
> | interested in attending that this is *not* an academic conference,
> | but instead an opportunity for the two teams to find common points
> | for collaboration, joint work, better integration between the
> | projects and future directions. The focus of the workshop will be
> | to actually *implement* such ideas, not just to plan for them.

Sorry, those question marks are hurting my eyeballs.

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kpdere at derenet

Feb 2, 2008, 9:52 AM

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Re: Will Python on day replace MATLAB????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [In reply to]

Blubaugh, David A. wrote:

> To All,
>
>
> I have been evaluating the python environment ever more closer. I
> believe I can interface python with a development environment known as
> the ImpulseC environment. The ImpulseC environment develops C to VHDL
> for FPGA development. I would especially love to interface Python
> with ImpulseC and the graphing capabilities of GNU Plot and SciPy in
> order to recreate a VHDL development environment that will be just as
> capable as a $50,000 dollar Matlab to VHDL toolbox. This is also a part
> of my Masters thesis. Is anyone willing to help in this endeavor?????
>
>
> David Blubaugh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:python-list-bounces+dblubaugh=belcan.com [at] python] On Behalf
> Of python-list-request [at] python
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Never used Matlab but I did use IDL (also commercial) a lot. However, I
recently switched almost entirely to python with the help of numpy, scipy,
matplotlib, and ipython for the interactive shell.

As far as I am concerned, that day has come and gone.

Ken D.
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