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Aug 14, 2012, 2:12 PM

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[OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP))

Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 14/08/2012 04:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:34:46 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename?
>> Sheesh. It's 2012, not 1812. If you sign your posts with your full name,
>> you have to expect that people will call you "Mark" rather than "Mr
>> Lawrence" or "Lord High Mucky-Muck Grand Poohbar Lawrence" -- even if
>> they haven't been formally introduced.
>>
>> Mark, we're all human and the occasional snark is only to be expected,
>> but demanding that people ask permission to call you by your first name
>> in an informal forum like this crosses the line to total dickishness.
>> Chill out before you get yourself kill-filed into irrelevance.
>
> For the record I was asked to use my full name rather than my user name
> on Python mailing lists.

Apples and oranges.

Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished
from that of the other potential Marks around here. Some people, including
me, also consider posting under real name a basic act of politeness and form
towards the reader, equivalent of an introduction of oneself. Important
enouth that, if not showed, will reduce the probability for an answer
(sometimes down to zero). For the record shows that if one aspect of
politeness is ignored, other aspects are usually ignored as well. People
tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite things
*intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was known and so
their reputation IRL would be at stake.

Here endeth the lesson ;-)

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Aug 14, 2012, 2:46 PM

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Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) [In reply to]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars [at] web> wrote:
> Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished
> from that of the other potential Marks around here.

I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
"ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
"Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.

> Some people, including
> me, also consider posting under real name a basic act of politeness... People
> tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite things
> *intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was known and so
> their reputation IRL would be at stake.

Agreed. Sometimes that's a good thing; there are places where
anonymity protection is important. But with these sorts of lists,
there's the potential to acquire a strong positive or strong negative
reputation; people who want a positive reputation usually want it
associated with *them*, not with some pseudonym.

Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
Vulcan or an elf?

ChrisA
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steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood

Aug 14, 2012, 4:55 PM

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Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) [In reply to]

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are similar).
> That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing purposes, though if
> anyone wants a truly unique handle for me, "Rosuav" is more effective
> than my real name.

Mom? Is that you?

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Aug 14, 2012, 6:44 PM

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Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) [In reply to]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python [at] pearwood> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are similar).
>> That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing purposes, though if
>> anyone wants a truly unique handle for me, "Rosuav" is more effective
>> than my real name.
>
> Mom? Is that you?

Eh?

I'm guessing that's a reference to something that I'm not familiar with?

ChrisA
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steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood

Aug 14, 2012, 8:43 PM

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Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) [In reply to]

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:44:29 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> <steve+comp.lang.python [at] pearwood> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
>>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
>>> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
>>> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
>>> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.
>>
>> Mom? Is that you?
>
> Eh?
>
> I'm guessing that's a reference to something that I'm not familiar with?

It was a joke, implying that my mother uses the same "truly unique"
handle as you.

With over 7 billion people on the planet, and no upper limit on the
number of handles anyone can take, together with the lack of any
definitive central registry, I wouldn't put money on any one of them
being unique.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that now you have claimed Rosuav is
unique to you, some wag (or wags) have rushed out and registered it on
whatever Internet forums you haven't already done so on and are already
posting "I am [insert childish insult of your choice]" in your name.

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rosuav at gmail

Aug 14, 2012, 9:07 PM

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Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) [In reply to]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python [at] pearwood> wrote:
> It was a joke, implying that my mother uses the same "truly unique"
> handle as you.
>
> With over 7 billion people on the planet, and no upper limit on the
> number of handles anyone can take, together with the lack of any
> definitive central registry, I wouldn't put money on any one of them
> being unique.
>
> It wouldn't surprise me to learn that now you have claimed Rosuav is
> unique to you, some wag (or wags) have rushed out and registered it on
> whatever Internet forums you haven't already done so on and are already
> posting "I am [insert childish insult of your choice]" in your name.

Ah. Sure. I get that.

But "Rosuav" is, as far as I know, unique to me in the entire English
language. (I checked once, and there's something in Italian that uses
the same letter combination. Not a person, though.) Yes, it's entirely
possible that someone will deliberately try to sully my name like
that, but I can't imagine that anyone would accidentally hit on it as
an internet username, given that it hasn't happened yet. And sure,
someone might be using it offline that I'm unaware of. I'm prepared to
chance that. :)

So yeah, I probably shouldn't have said "truly unique", but
"effectively unique". Pretty much anything you find on google.com or
duckduckgo.com with the name "rosuav" has come from me, or is
referencing me (and this would include the wag/s you describe, though
I've not seen that happen, and I've been using and claiming this name
for a decade or so - and that's only counting on the internet).

ChrisA
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