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Apr 17, 2012, 2:29 PM
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis [at] pitrou> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:22:57 +0000
> Kristján Valur Jónsson <kristjan [at] ccpgames> wrote:
> > >
> > > We are all consenting adults. Everything is allowed - you just have to
> live with
> > > the consequences.
> > Well, we specifically decided that objects with __del__ methods that are
> part of a cycle cannot be run.
> > The same reasoning was applied to generators, if they are in a certain
> > What makes iobase so special that its 'close' method can be run even if
> it is part of a cycle?
> The reason is that making file objects uncollectable when they are part
> of a reference cycle would be a PITA and a serious regression for many
> applications, I think.
> > Why not allow it for all objects, then?
> I'm not the author of the original GC design. Perhaps it was
> deliberately conservative at the time? I think PyPy has a more tolerant
> solution for finalizers in reference cycles, perhaps they can explain it
PyPy breaks cycles randomly. I think a pretty comprehensive description of
what happens is here: