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solipsis at pitrou Apr 17, 2012, 2:52 AM Views: 162 Permalink Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) [In reply to] On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:41:56 -0400 Brett Cannon <brett [at] python> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 20:27, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis [at] pitrou> wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:11:14 +0200 > > Georg Brandl <g.brandl [at] gmx> wrote: > > > > > > No, it's not just an existing Python, it is (at least currently) the same > > > version of Python being built. Therefore I wrote about the bootstrapping > > > problems when bytecode changes. > > > > > > Depending on Cython is better in that it breaks the bootstrapping cycle, > > > but on the other hand the C code may need to be regenerated when the C > > API > > > changes in an incompatible way. > > > > Cython OTOH probably needs Python 2.x, which isn't that great for > > building Python 3. And requiring Cython for developing is not very > > contributor-friendly. > > > > Well, required to regenerate _frozen_importlib, but nothing else. I mean > making fixes go into importlib directly and get tested that way, not > through __import__(). So really Cython would only be needed when > importlib._bootstrap has been changed and you are making a commit. That's still a large dependency to bring in, while we already have a working solution. I'd understand using Cython to develop some new extension module which requires linking against a C library (and is thus impossible to write in pure Python). But for importlib that's totally non-necessary. I guess I'm -1 on it. Regards Antoine. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev [at] python http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/list-python-dev%40lists.gossamer-threads.com

Subject User Time importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 14, 2012, 11:12 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) g.brandl at gmx Apr 14, 2012, 12:37 PM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 7:07 AM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 8:21 AM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 12:17 PM                 Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) amauryfa at gmail Apr 16, 2012, 1:43 PM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 12:54 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 4:13 AM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 4:49 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) rdmurray at bitdance Apr 16, 2012, 9:15 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 9:31 AM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 9:40 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 10:04 AM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 10:32 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) g.brandl at gmx Apr 16, 2012, 4:11 PM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 5:27 PM                 Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 5:41 PM                 Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 10:12 PM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) rdmurray at bitdance Apr 17, 2012, 5:18 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 10:08 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 10:33 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 10:44 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) barry at python Apr 16, 2012, 10:51 AM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) rdmurray at bitdance Apr 16, 2012, 11:38 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 2:12 PM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) ericsnowcurrently at gmail Apr 16, 2012, 10:45 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 10:05 PM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 17, 2012, 2:52 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) eric at trueblade Apr 17, 2012, 3:43 AM             Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 17, 2012, 8:41 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 17, 2012, 10:39 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 17, 2012, 12:52 PM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) eric at trueblade Apr 20, 2012, 6:54 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 20, 2012, 7:59 AM         Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) ericsnowcurrently at gmail Apr 20, 2012, 8:02 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 20, 2012, 8:04 AM     Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) eric at trueblade Apr 20, 2012, 8:07 AM

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