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brett at python

Apr 16, 2012, 9:40 AM


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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:31, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis [at] pitrou> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:15:16 -0400
> "R. David Murray" <rdmurray [at] bitdance> wrote:
> >
> > I don't see how depending on Cython is better than depending on having
> > an existing Python. If the only benefit is semi-readable code, surely
> > we do have source code for the pre-frozen module, and it is just a matter
> > of convincing hg that the bytecode is binary, not text?
> >
> > Brett's earlier thought of compiling from source as a *fallback* makes
> > sense to me. I'd rather not add overhead to startup that we can avoid.
>
>
In reply to David, one trick with this, though, is that frozen modules
don't store the magic number of the bytecode, so that would need to change
in order to make this fully feasible.


> Compiling from source at which point, though?
>

At startup of the interpreter.


> In essence, that would mean reimplement Python/freeze_importlib.py in C?
> We could even compile it to a separate executable that gets built
> before the Python executable (like pgen) :-)
>

So a mini Python that just knew how to compile to bytecode and nothing more?

-Brett


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> Regards
>
> Antoine.
>
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Subject User Time
importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 14, 2012, 11:12 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) g.brandl at gmx Apr 14, 2012, 12:37 PM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 7:07 AM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 8:21 AM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 12:17 PM
                Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) amauryfa at gmail Apr 16, 2012, 1:43 PM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 12:54 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 4:13 AM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 4:49 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) rdmurray at bitdance Apr 16, 2012, 9:15 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 9:31 AM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 9:40 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 10:04 AM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 10:32 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) g.brandl at gmx Apr 16, 2012, 4:11 PM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 5:27 PM
                Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 5:41 PM
                Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 10:12 PM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) rdmurray at bitdance Apr 17, 2012, 5:18 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 10:08 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 16, 2012, 10:33 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 16, 2012, 10:44 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) barry at python Apr 16, 2012, 10:51 AM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) rdmurray at bitdance Apr 16, 2012, 11:38 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) martin at v Apr 16, 2012, 2:12 PM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) ericsnowcurrently at gmail Apr 16, 2012, 10:45 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) stefan_ml at behnel Apr 16, 2012, 10:05 PM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 17, 2012, 2:52 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) eric at trueblade Apr 17, 2012, 3:43 AM
            Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 17, 2012, 8:41 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) solipsis at pitrou Apr 17, 2012, 10:39 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 17, 2012, 12:52 PM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) eric at trueblade Apr 20, 2012, 6:54 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 20, 2012, 7:59 AM
        Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) ericsnowcurrently at gmail Apr 20, 2012, 8:02 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) brett at python Apr 20, 2012, 8:04 AM
    Re: importlib is now bootstrapped (and what that means) eric at trueblade Apr 20, 2012, 8:07 AM

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