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ethan at stoneleaf

Apr 5, 2012, 1:49 PM

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Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock) [In reply to]

Oleg Broytman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:56:00AM -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
>> It's only an error if it's documented that way and, more
>> importantly, thought of that way. The re module is a good example:
>> if it can't find what you're looking for it returns None -- it does
>> *not* raise a NotFound exception.
>
> But open() raises IOError. ''.find('a') returns -1 but ''.index('a')
> raises ValueError.
> So we can argue in circles both ways, there are too many arguments
> pro and contra. Python is just too inconsistent to be consistently
> argued over. ;-)

Indeed -- I think we have reached an agreement! Now if you'll just
agree that returning None in this case is better... ;)

~Ethan~
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Subject	User	Time
an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 1, 2012, 5:43 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	victor.stinner at gmail	Apr 2, 2012, 4:37 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 2, 2012, 2:38 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 2, 2012, 2:51 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 2, 2012, 3:05 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 2, 2012, 3:44 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	regebro at gmail	Apr 2, 2012, 10:51 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	victor.stinner at gmail	Apr 3, 2012, 4:45 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 2, 2012, 11:03 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	breamoreboy at yahoo	Apr 3, 2012, 1:03 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 3, 2012, 1:43 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	greg.ewing at canterbury	Apr 3, 2012, 5:04 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	breamoreboy at yahoo	Apr 3, 2012, 5:18 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	regebro at gmail	Apr 3, 2012, 7:09 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 3, 2012, 9:07 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 3, 2012, 2:42 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 3, 2012, 3:08 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 3, 2012, 4:38 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ncoghlan at gmail	Apr 3, 2012, 4:46 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	regebro at gmail	Apr 4, 2012, 8:47 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 3, 2012, 7:46 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	p.f.moore at gmail	Apr 4, 2012, 1:21 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 4, 2012, 9:18 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	g.brandl at gmx	Apr 4, 2012, 10:47 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 4, 2012, 11:06 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 4, 2012, 3:06 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 4, 2012, 10:44 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 4, 2012, 11:03 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 4, 2012, 12:24 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 4, 2012, 12:52 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 4, 2012, 4:05 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	stephen at xemacs	Apr 5, 2012, 6:06 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 5, 2012, 11:56 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 5, 2012, 1:15 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	ethan at stoneleaf	Apr 5, 2012, 1:49 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 5, 2012, 3:08 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	cs at zip	Apr 5, 2012, 3:05 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418	steve at pearwood	Apr 4, 2012, 3:50 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418	cs at zip	Apr 4, 2012, 4:14 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418	steve at pearwood	Apr 6, 2012, 3:25 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418	cs at zip	Apr 6, 2012, 4:11 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418	v+python at g	Apr 6, 2012, 5:30 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418	cs at zip	Apr 6, 2012, 9:22 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 5, 2012, 6:34 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	stephen at xemacs	Apr 5, 2012, 7:45 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 5, 2012, 8:22 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	rdmurray at bitdance	Apr 5, 2012, 8:38 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 5, 2012, 9:02 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	phd at phdru	Apr 5, 2012, 9:01 AM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	stephen at xemacs	Apr 5, 2012, 7:57 PM
Re: an alternative to embedding policy in PEP 418 (was: PEP 418: Add monotonic clock)	murman at gmail	Apr 6, 2012, 4:31 AM

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