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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;m not sure concealing the differences between 2.x and 3.x behind such a &amp;gt; wrapper is a good idea. It would be better if people became aware of / l</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 12:12:25 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>M.-A. Lemburg &amp;lt;mal &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; egenix.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; We could then also have a py2compat.c to hold corresponding &amp;gt; C code, e.g. to provide compatibility w</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 10:47:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>Mark Dickinson wrote: &amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM, M.-A. Lemburg &amp;lt;mal@egenix.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thanks for pointing me to the that ticket. &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Lo</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 10:27:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM, M.-A. Lemburg &amp;lt;mal@egenix.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Thanks for pointing me to the that ticket. &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Looks like Guido already comm</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 09:12:14 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789537</link>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>&amp;gt; In an ideal world, developers would add that code to their &amp;gt; extensions right away. In the real world, where developers only &amp;gt; have limited resource</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 04:46:07 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789485</link>
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<title>Re: Reworking the GIL</title>
<description>&amp;gt; I built something very similar for my company last year, and itâ€™s been running &amp;gt; flawlessly in production at a few customer sites since, with avg.</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 03:25:39 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789461</link>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>&amp;quot;Martin v. Löwis&amp;quot; wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; IMHO, that&amp;#039;s not really a good way to encourage people to try to provide &amp;gt;&amp;gt; a smooth upgrade to the 3.x branch. Much to th</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 03:05:51 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789460</link>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>Eric Smith wrote: &amp;gt; M.-A. Lemburg wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Since package developers are just starting to port things to 3.x and &amp;gt;&amp;gt; many appear to be considering supp</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 02:44:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Reworking the GIL</title>
<description>Stefan Ring wrote: &amp;gt; [2] http://www.bestinclass.dk/index.php/2009/10/python-vs-clojure-evolving/ &amp;gt; [3] www.dabeaz.com/python/GIL.pdf &amp;gt; &amp;gt; PS On a slig</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 02:29:58 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789458</link>
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<title>Re: Reworking the GIL</title>
<description>Hello, I built something very similar for my company last year, and itâ€™s been running flawlessly in production at a few customer sites since, with</description>
<pubDate>23 Nov  2009 00:54:56 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789439</link>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:05 AM, &amp;quot;Martin v. Löwis&amp;quot; &amp;lt;martin@v.loewis.de&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; IMHO, that&amp;#039;s not really a good way to encourage people to try to pr</description>
<pubDate>21 Nov  2009 12:00:41 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789269</link>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>&amp;gt; IMHO, that&amp;#039;s not really a good way to encourage people to try to provide &amp;gt; a smooth upgrade to the 3.x branch. Much to the contrary. 3.x should make</description>
<pubDate>21 Nov  2009 11:05:57 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789268</link>
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<title>Issue 1488943 - differ lib missing tab hinting</title>
<description>Is there anything holding up fixing issue 1488943? The bug was found and a patch submitted 3 1/2 years ago. The patch is just a single line of code</description>
<pubDate>21 Nov  2009 10:31:33 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789267</link>
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<title>Re: Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>M.-A. Lemburg wrote: &amp;gt; Since package developers are just starting to port things to 3.x and &amp;gt; many appear to be considering supporting both 2.7 and 3.</description>
<pubDate>21 Nov  2009 08:37:54 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789260</link>
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<title>Removal of intobject.h in 3.1</title>
<description>The wiki page for porting to 3.x says: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PortingExtensionModulesToPy3k &amp;quot;&amp;quot;&amp;quot; long/int Unification In Python 3.0, there is on</description>
<pubDate>21 Nov  2009 07:06:47 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789253</link>
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<title>Re: standard libraries don&amp;#039;t behave like standard &amp;#039;libraries&amp;#039;</title>
<description>On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 09:59, Sriram Srinivasan &amp;lt;naughtysriram@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; you were thinking wrong. If suppose this feature is introduced it</description>
<pubDate>21 Nov  2009 04:40:13 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789233</link>
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<title>Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?</title>
<description>Glenn Linderman &amp;lt;glenn@nevcal.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; On approximately 11/14/2009 7:29 AM, came the following characters &amp;gt; from the keyboard of Floris Bruynoo</description>
<pubDate>20 Nov  2009 15:06:56 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789201</link>
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<title>Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?</title>
<description>On approximately 11/14/2009 7:29 AM, came the following characters from the keyboard of Floris Bruynooghe: &amp;gt; Having a &amp;quot;Repository-URL&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Repository-B</description>
<pubDate>20 Nov  2009 12:31:00 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789183</link>
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<title>Summary of Python tracker Issues</title>
<description>ACTIVITY SUMMARY (11/13/09 - 11/20/09) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the i</description>
<pubDate>20 Nov  2009 09:07:15 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/789132</link>
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<title>Meet your 3.2 release manager</title>
<description>I&amp;#039;m pleased to announce that Georg has (naively) volunteered to shepherd the 3.2 release. -- Regards, Benjamin _____________________________________</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 15:43:30 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788963</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:04 PM, M.-A. Lemburg &amp;lt;mal@egenix.com&amp;gt; wrote: [..] &amp;gt; BTW: There&amp;#039;s already a Tools/scripts/h2py.py we could use for &amp;gt; convert</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 08:19:10 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788925</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Antoine Pitrou &amp;lt;solipsis@pitrou.net&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Tarek Ziadé &amp;lt;ziade.tarek &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; So what I am pr</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 08:14:16 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788894</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>Tarek Ziadé wrote: &amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Toshio Kuratomi &amp;lt;a.badger@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; [..] &amp;gt;&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ve brought the issue of Makefile and pyc</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 03:04:44 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788868</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>Tarek ZiadÃ© &amp;lt;ziade.tarek &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; So what I am proposing is to inject those values in a private dict in &amp;gt; the new sysconfig.py mo</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 02:04:03 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788863</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>Tarek Ziadé wrote: &amp;gt; Now for the format problem, I agree that it seems more robust to &amp;gt; pre-process the variables &amp;gt; and inject them in the stdlib when</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 01:55:32 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788862</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:09 PM, David Malcolm &amp;lt;dmalcolm@redhat.com&amp;gt; wrote: [..] &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; $ dpkg -S /usr/lib/python2.5/config/Makefile &amp;gt;&amp;gt; python2.5: /us</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 01:32:08 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788861</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Toshio Kuratomi &amp;lt;a.badger@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote: [..] &amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ve brought the issue of Makefile and pyconfig.h being needed for</description>
<pubDate>19 Nov  2009 01:30:52 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788860</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>Hello, &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ve submitted a patch (*) to add an optional timeout to locking &amp;gt; &amp;gt; operations (Lock.acquire() etc.). Since it&amp;#039;s a pretty basic &amp;gt; &amp;gt; funct</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 14:20:08 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788767</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>Antoine Pitrou &amp;lt;solipsis@pitrou.net&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ve submitted a patch (*) to add an optional timeout to locking &amp;gt; operations (Lock.acquire() etc.). S</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 13:28:39 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788747</link>
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<title>2to3 for .c code (was Static analysis of CPython using coccinelle/spatch)</title>
<description>On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 19:45 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: &amp;gt; A.M. Kuchling wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 03:27:53PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; H</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 11:26:23 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788707</link>
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<title>Re: Static analysis of CPython using coccinelle/spatch</title>
<description>On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 13:03 -0800, Brett Cannon wrote: &amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:27, David Malcolm &amp;lt;dmalcolm@redhat.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Has anyone else</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 11:09:52 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788706</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Antoine Pitrou &amp;lt;solipsis@pitrou.net&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Jesse Noller &amp;lt;jnoller &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Nick is right, many</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 06:27:36 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788650</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>Jesse Noller &amp;lt;jnoller &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Nick is right, many of the BSDs and FreeBSD up until fairly recently  &amp;gt; did not have named shared</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 05:50:25 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788638</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>On Nov 18, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Nick Coghlan &amp;lt;ncoghlan@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Antoine Pitrou wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Guido van Rossum &amp;lt;guido &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; python.org&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 04:45:42 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788637</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>Antoine Pitrou wrote: &amp;gt; Guido van Rossum &amp;lt;guido &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; python.org&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Will locks be interruptible with ^C? That is an oft-requested feature &amp;gt;&amp;gt; w</description>
<pubDate>18 Nov  2009 02:38:06 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788619</link>
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<title>Re: Static analysis of CPython using coccinelle/spatch</title>
<description>A.M. Kuchling wrote: &amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 03:27:53PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Has anyone else looked at using Coccinelle/spatch[1] on CPyth</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 16:45:20 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788532</link>
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<title>Re: 2.7 and 3.2 release schedules</title>
<description>Barry Warsaw &amp;lt;barry &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; python.org&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; If no one else wants to try and ruin Python 3, I&amp;#039;ll do it &amp;lt;wink&amp;gt;. &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ha ha ha^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HG</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 16:09:01 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788513</link>
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<title>Re: 2.7 and 3.2 release schedules</title>
<description>On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: &amp;gt; Benjamin Peterson schrieb: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; After more thought, I think that separating the 2.7 and 3.2 releases</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 15:12:44 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788512</link>
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<title>Re: 2.7 and 3.2 release schedules</title>
<description>Benjamin Peterson schrieb: &amp;gt; After more thought, I think that separating the 2.7 and 3.2 releases &amp;gt; is not as big of an issue as I once thought. There</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 14:55:51 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788511</link>
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<title>Re: Static analysis of CPython using coccinelle/spatch</title>
<description>On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 03:27:53PM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: &amp;gt; Has anyone else looked at using Coccinelle/spatch[1] on CPython source &amp;gt; code? For a</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 13:41:27 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788491</link>
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<title>Re: Static analysis of CPython using coccinelle/spatch</title>
<description>On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:27, David Malcolm &amp;lt;dmalcolm@redhat.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Has anyone else looked at using Coccinelle/spatch[1] on CPython source &amp;gt; c</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 13:03:23 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788490</link>
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<title>Re: new unbounded memory leak in exception handling?</title>
<description>On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:40:37AM -0500, R. David Murray wrote: &amp;gt; I think you want to take a look at PEP 3134. And then please file a doc &amp;gt; bug to h</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 10:14:02 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788434</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>Guido van Rossum &amp;lt;guido &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; python.org&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I think the number of platforms &amp;gt; has dwindled to two or three (Posix, Windows, and maybe one mi</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 08:21:41 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788433</link>
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<title>Re: Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>I think I can answer the &amp;quot;why&amp;quot; question: thread.c is *very* old code, in fact it predates the posix threads standard. When we (actually Sjoerd Mullend</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 08:01:49 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788405</link>
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<title>Re: new unbounded memory leak in exception handling?</title>
<description>On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 at 10:31, Greg Hewgill wrote: &amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ve constructed an example program that does not leak memory in Python &amp;gt; 2.x, but causes unbounde</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 05:40:37 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788400</link>
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<title>Add an optional timeout to lock operations</title>
<description>Hello, I&amp;#039;ve submitted a patch (*) to add an optional timeout to locking operations (Lock.acquire() etc.). Since it&amp;#039;s a pretty basic functionality, I</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 03:46:18 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788388</link>
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<title>new unbounded memory leak in exception handling?</title>
<description>I&amp;#039;ve constructed an example program that does not leak memory in Python 2.x, but causes unbounded memory allocation in Python 3.1. Here is the code:</description>
<pubDate>17 Nov  2009 02:31:07 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788387</link>
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<title>2.7 and 3.2 release schedules</title>
<description>After more thought, I think that separating the 2.7 and 3.2 releases is not as big of an issue as I once thought. Therefore, I&amp;#039;d like to adopt the sch</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 15:11:25 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788296</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 12:42 +0000, Antoine Pitrou wrote: &amp;gt; Tarek ZiadÃ© &amp;lt;ziade.tarek &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; This cannot work on all platform</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 13:09:33 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788275</link>
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<title>Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?</title>
<description>2009/11/16 Tres Seaver &amp;lt;tseaver@palladion.com&amp;gt;: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Which is bizarre, since Paul belongs to the group of people you say &amp;gt;&amp;gt; you care most about - i.e.,</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 12:39:09 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788272</link>
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<title>Static analysis of CPython using coccinelle/spatch</title>
<description>Has anyone else looked at using Coccinelle/spatch[1] on CPython source code? It&amp;#039;s a GPL-licensed tool for matching semantic patterns in C source code</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 12:27:53 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788274</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 03:35:00AM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Do we really want to change distutils to solve a problem of a third &amp;gt; party pac</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 12:10:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:27:29PM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote: &amp;gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- &amp;gt; Hash: SHA1 &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Tarek Ziadé wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Sun, Nov</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 11:35:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt; Michael Foord wrote: &amp;gt;  &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;   &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Would it be possible to detect a change of provider and then</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 11:18:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 02:31:45PM +0100, Georg Brandl wrote: &amp;gt; Antoine Pitrou schrieb: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Tarek Ziadé &amp;lt;ziade.tarek &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 11:15:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>Michael Foord wrote: &amp;gt; Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Would it be possible to detect a change of provider and then offer the &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; option to migrate the acc</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 11:13:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<description>Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Would it be possible to detect a change of provider and then offer the &amp;gt;&amp;gt; option to migrate the account to the new provider</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 11:01:13 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788251</link>
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<description>&amp;gt; Would it be possible to detect a change of provider and then offer the &amp;gt; option to migrate the account to the new provider (so long as it does &amp;gt; not</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 10:46:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Even not having provider changes supported would still allow me to use &amp;gt;&amp;gt; my openid with PyPI which would be great. The only</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 05:41:38 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788176</link>
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<title>Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?</title>
<description>On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Arc Riley &amp;lt;arcriley@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; +1 &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Having a &amp;quot;Repository-URL&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Repository-Browse-URL&amp;quot; and a &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Bug-</description>
<pubDate>16 Nov  2009 01:38:11 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>Tres Seaver wrote: &amp;gt; Tarek Ziadé wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; I didn&amp;#039;t know the split story went like this. I took it like the &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; split everyone &amp;gt;&amp;gt; agreed on,</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 20:43:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tarek Ziadé wrote: &amp;gt; On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Christian Heimes &amp;lt;lists@cheimes.de&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; [..]</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 20:27:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: standard libraries don&amp;#039;t behave like	standard &amp;#039;libraries&amp;#039;</title>
<description>On Nov 13, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: &amp;gt; Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Some of the Python maintainers have recently started objecting to  &amp;gt; t</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 20:19:24 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?</title>
<description>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 P.J. Eby wrote: &amp;gt; At 09:45 AM 11/14/2009 +0100, Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Paul Moore wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 20:14:30 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788107</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts (was Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?)</title>
<description>Martin&amp;gt; It&amp;#039;s far from obvious. It&amp;#039;s called &amp;quot;provider-driven identifier   Martin&amp;gt; selection&amp;quot;. PyPI redirects your browser to Google. Google looks</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 18:20:19 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788106</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>&amp;gt; Even not having provider changes supported would still allow me to use &amp;gt; my openid with PyPI which would be great. The only problem with changing &amp;gt;</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 14:26:19 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788080</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt; [snip...] &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Why not allow users to login with their own openid, but &amp;gt;&amp;gt; only allow one account to refer back to the same dele</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 14:20:25 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788079</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts (was Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?)</title>
<description>skip@pobox.com wrote: &amp;gt;   Martin&amp;gt; That&amp;#039;s indeed what PyPI attempts to do. At the &amp;quot;claim openid&amp;quot; &amp;gt;   Martin&amp;gt; place, follow the Launchpad link. It s</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 14:11:36 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788056</link>
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<title>Re: Status of the Buildbot fleet and related bugs</title>
<description>There are non-stable buildbots that are failing consistently, but this message is about something else. Now that the biggest stability issues have be</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 14:09:19 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788055</link>
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<title>OpenID on PyPI: please discuss on â€˜catalog-sigâ€™ (was: Too many Python accounts)</title>
<description>Michael Foord &amp;lt;fuzzyman@voidspace.org.uk&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; myopenid *does* the validation, but my registered openid is &amp;gt; www.voidspace.org.uk and I *should*</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 13:58:50 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788054</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>&amp;gt; This doesn&amp;#039;t seem to be a problem for all the other sites I use my &amp;gt; openid with. Perhaps they don&amp;#039;t care about fake accounts at all? That would, i</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 13:58:23 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788053</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts (was Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?)</title>
<description>Martin&amp;gt; That&amp;#039;s indeed what PyPI attempts to do. At the &amp;quot;claim openid&amp;quot;   Martin&amp;gt; place, follow the Launchpad link. It should guide you through</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 13:34:40 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788052</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>Martin v. Löwis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can&amp;#039;t you then produce hundreds of IDs, all delegating to the same &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; identity? &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;    &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Yes. &amp;gt;&amp;gt;   &amp;gt; &amp;gt; But then, u</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 13:27:36 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788051</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM, &amp;quot;Martin v. LÃ¶wis&amp;quot; &amp;lt;martin@v.loewis.de&amp;gt;wrote: &amp;gt; But then, users can easily create as many fake accounts as they want</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 13:25:36 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788050</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 05:31, Georg Brandl &amp;lt;g.brandl@gmx.net&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Antoine Pitrou schrieb: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tarek ZiadÃ© &amp;lt;ziade.tarek &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt;</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:51:10 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788049</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts (was Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?)</title>
<description>&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ve never found OpenID at all intuitive to use. Are there instructions on &amp;gt; pypi.python.org which detail the steps necessary to use OpenID to logi</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:46:29 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788047</link>
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<title>Re: global statements outside functions/methods should raise SyntaxError</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Terry Reedy &amp;lt;tjreedy@udel.edu&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Ezio Melotti wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Python currently accepts global statements at the</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:46:26 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788048</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can&amp;#039;t you then produce hundreds of IDs, all delegating to the same &amp;gt;&amp;gt; identity? &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Yes. But then, users can easily create as many fake accounts</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:44:43 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788046</link>
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<title>Re: [Python-checkins] Using itertools in modules that are part of the build chain (Re: r76264 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/tokenize.py)</title>
<description>2009/11/15 Brett Cannon &amp;lt;brett@python.org&amp;gt;: &amp;gt; On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:01, Benjamin Peterson &amp;lt;benjamin@python.org&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/14 Nick Coghlan</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:43:10 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788045</link>
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<title>Re: [Python-checkins] Using itertools in modules that are part of the build chain (Re: r76264 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/tokenize.py)</title>
<description>On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 20:01, Benjamin Peterson &amp;lt;benjamin@python.org&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; 2009/11/14 Nick Coghlan &amp;lt;ncoghlan@gmail.com&amp;gt;: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; This does constrain w</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:40:32 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788044</link>
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<title>Re: global statements outside functions/methods should raise SyntaxError</title>
<description>Ezio Melotti wrote: &amp;gt; Python currently accepts global statements at the top level: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I opened an issue on the tracker (http://bugs.python.org/issue7</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:38:26 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788043</link>
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<title>Re: global statements outside functions/methods should raise SyntaxError</title>
<description>Benjamin Peterson wrote: &amp;gt; 2009/11/15 Michael Foord &amp;lt;fuzzyman@voidspace.org.uk&amp;gt;: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Well, personally I think it would be a good thing if this raised a</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:31:39 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788042</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts (was Re: PyPI comments and ratings, *really*?)</title>
<description>Martin&amp;gt; Then I recommend that you get a google account for your email   Martin&amp;gt; address, and register to PyPI using OpenID. I&amp;#039;ve never found Op</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:27:28 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788041</link>
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<title>Re: global statements outside functions/methods should	raise SyntaxError</title>
<description>Benjamin Peterson &amp;lt;benjamin &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; python.org&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; 2009/11/15 Michael Foord &amp;lt;fuzzyman &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; voidspace.org.uk&amp;gt;: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Well, personally I think it w</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:23:43 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788040</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:31 AM, &amp;quot;Martin v. Löwis&amp;quot; &amp;lt;martin@v.loewis.de&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Well, when I login my registered ID is www.voidspace.org.uk and</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:20:05 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788039</link>
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<title>Re: global statements outside functions/methods should raise SyntaxError</title>
<description>2009/11/15 Michael Foord &amp;lt;fuzzyman@voidspace.org.uk&amp;gt;: &amp;gt; Well, personally I think it would be a good thing if this raised an &amp;gt; exception during bytecod</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 12:08:49 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788009</link>
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<title>Re: global statements outside functions/methods should raise SyntaxError</title>
<description>Ezio Melotti wrote: &amp;gt; Python currently accepts global statements at the top level: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; global foo &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Beside being a meaningless operation, this</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 11:59:43 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788008</link>
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<title>global statements outside functions/methods should raise SyntaxError</title>
<description>Python currently accepts global statements at the top level: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; global foo &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Beside being a meaningless operation, this might lead unexperienced u</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 11:55:00 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788007</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>&amp;gt; Well, when I login my registered ID is www.voidspace.org.uk and *not* &amp;gt; fuzzyman.myopenid.com - so I believe you are incorrect (and in fact this &amp;gt; v</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 11:31:51 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788006</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>Martin v. LÃ¶wis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; So the only thing users gain with delegation is that they don&amp;#039;t need &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to remember the tedious URL that their provider a</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 11:18:43 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788005</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; So the only thing users gain with delegation is that they don&amp;#039;t need &amp;gt;&amp;gt; to remember the tedious URL that their provider assigns them. When they &amp;gt;&amp;gt;</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 10:57:04 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/788004</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Tarek ZiadÃ© &amp;lt;ziade.tarek@gmail.com&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ok. Fair enough, I&amp;#039;ll work with them this way. Although packagers</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 05:38:37 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787954</link>
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<title>Re: Status of the Buildbot fleet and related bugs</title>
<description>Martin v. Löwis schrieb: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Yes, I think this just started happening. I&amp;#039;m guessing that the main &amp;gt;&amp;gt; site proxies the buildbot URL requests to the buil</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 05:33:34 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787953</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Terry Reedy &amp;lt;tjreedy@udel.edu&amp;gt; wrote: &amp;gt; Christian Heimes wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tarek Ziadé wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hello, &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; http:</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 05:32:19 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787952</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>Antoine Pitrou schrieb: &amp;gt; Tarek ZiadÃ© &amp;lt;ziade.tarek &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; This cannot work on all platforms, when our Makefile is not shipped</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 05:31:45 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787951</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Christian Heimes &amp;lt;lists@cheimes.de&amp;gt; wrote: [..] &amp;gt; Do we really want to change distutils to solve a problem of a third</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 05:30:34 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787950</link>
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<title>Re: buildtime vs runtime in Distutils</title>
<description>Tarek ZiadÃ© &amp;lt;ziade.tarek &amp;lt;at&amp;gt; gmail.com&amp;gt; writes: &amp;gt; &amp;gt; This cannot work on all platforms, when our Makefile is not shipped &amp;gt; with python but python-de</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 04:42:53 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787949</link>
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<title>Re: Too many Python accounts</title>
<description>Martin v. LÃ¶wis wrote: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Fred can use his own OpenID â€˜fred.example.orgâ€™, initially set up behind &amp;gt;&amp;gt; the scenes to delegate to â€˜bigcorp.example</description>
<pubDate>15 Nov  2009 03:41:23 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787920</link>
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<title>Re: Modules that run other scripts</title>
<description>Robert Kern wrote: &amp;gt; Nick Coghlan wrote: &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; For that second part: &amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1. Is it even worth doing at this stage? I&amp;#039;m not sure to what degree the &amp;gt;&amp;gt; ne</description>
<pubDate>14 Nov  2009 23:02:47 -0800</pubDate>
<link>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/787880</link>
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<title>Re: Modules that run other scripts</title>
<description>Nick Coghlan wrote: &amp;gt; For that second part: &amp;gt; 1. Is it even worth doing at this stage? I&amp;#039;m not sure to what degree the &amp;gt; new command line flexibility</description>
<pubDate>14 Nov  2009 22:37:00 -0800</pubDate>
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