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Richard.Foley at rfi

Nov 5, 2009, 2:30 AM

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Re: spending other people's money [In reply to]

If that's what's needed, I'd be happy to help put a proposal together.

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Richard Foley
Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen

http://www.rfi.net/

On Thursday 05 November 2009 11:20:56 Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:03:57AM +0100, Richard Foley wrote:
> > This was a damned good idea, to do something concrete for Perl. Nearly 6
> > months later has anything happened with it? Has TPF:
> >
> > 1. approved the idea?
> >
> > 2. allocated (freely donated) funds?
> >
> > 3. created a procedure/team to handle the administration of this effort?
>
> I don't know the answers to any of these.
>
> I do know that I (no longer) have the time to get it started, nor to
> organise it. I had spoken to some people privately about 6 months ago, and
> I know that subsequently at least one I'd spoken with was aware that I no
> longer had time and so wasn't able to carry it forward. A couple of others
> have asked since, and I have said that I wasn't able to carry it forward.
>
> I made no application to TPF for funds to run this, because I hadn't got
> very far before I ran out of time, certainly not enough to need money.
>
> I would be very happy for anyone else to take the idea and run with it
> (I had hoped that that was obvious from the start). Perl shouldn't stall
> just because I run out of time.
>
> Nicholas Clark
>

nick at ccl4

Nov 5, 2009, 2:46 AM

Post #27 of 30 (256 views)
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Re: spending other people's money [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:30:54AM +0100, Richard Foley wrote:
> If that's what's needed, I'd be happy to help put a proposal together.

You don't need my permission to do this.

Also, I'm afraid that I don't have much time to give advice. I know *why*
the details of the suggestion are they way that they are, so if you think
they should be different, I can say what that "breaks" from the original
intent, but I can't be sure to have a good idea of what the implications of
an alternative going to be.

The one thing I can say confidently is that a grants programme, certainly
the existing grants programme, is demonstrating that it is *not* a viable
system to convert money into people working on Perl 5 core bug fixing.

Nicholas Clark

james.laver at gmail

Nov 5, 2009, 3:00 AM

Post #28 of 30 (255 views)
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Re: spending other people's money [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Nicholas Clark <nick [at] ccl4> wrote:
>
> You don't need my permission to do this.
>
> Also, I'm afraid that I don't have much time to give advice. I know *why*
> the details of the suggestion are they way that they are, so if you think
> they should be different, I can say what that "breaks" from the original
> intent, but I can't be sure to have a good idea of what the implications of
> an alternative going to be.
>
> The one thing I can say confidently is that a grants programme, certainly
> the existing grants programme, is demonstrating that it is *not* a viable
> system to convert money into people working on Perl 5 core bug fixing.
>
> Nicholas Clark

Matt Trout and I put together the outline for how such a system would
work, but both of us lost the time to actually work on creating it.

If anyone is interested in taking up where we left off, please contact
me offlist and I'll fill you in.

--James

Richard.Foley at rfi

Nov 5, 2009, 6:35 AM

Post #29 of 30 (253 views)
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Re: spending other people's money [In reply to]

Taken off-list, as suggested.

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Richard Foley
Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen

http://www.rfi.net/

On Thursday 05 November 2009 12:00:44 James Laver wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Nicholas Clark <nick [at] ccl4> wrote:
> >
> > You don't need my permission to do this.
> >
> > Also, I'm afraid that I don't have much time to give advice. I know *why*
> > the details of the suggestion are they way that they are, so if you think
> > they should be different, I can say what that "breaks" from the original
> > intent, but I can't be sure to have a good idea of what the implications
of
> > an alternative going to be.
> >
> > The one thing I can say confidently is that a grants programme, certainly
> > the existing grants programme, is demonstrating that it is *not* a viable
> > system to convert money into people working on Perl 5 core bug fixing.
> >
> > Nicholas Clark
>
> Matt Trout and I put together the outline for how such a system would
> work, but both of us lost the time to actually work on creating it.
>
> If anyone is interested in taking up where we left off, please contact
> me offlist and I'll fill you in.
>
> --James
>

demerphq at gmail

Nov 7, 2009, 2:07 AM

Post #30 of 30 (248 views)
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Re: spending other people's money [In reply to]

2009/11/5 Richard Foley <Richard.Foley [at] rfi>:
> If that's what's needed, I'd be happy to help put a proposal together.

I think this is a good idea. I think everybody would appreciate your
efforts on this.

Yves

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perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

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