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jaypipes at gmail Apr 5, 2012, 9:43 AM Views: 124 Permalink Re: OpenStack immaturity [In reply to] +10000. On 04/04/2012 04:20 PM, David Kranz wrote: > +1000 > > I believe the nova team should make backporting essential bugs to a > stable essex base and dealing with the upgrade issue the highest > priority for the start (at least) of the Folsom cycle. We need people to > deploy real systems using Essex. With regard to smooth upgrades, they > won't happen if the issue is always punted to the end of a release > cycle. The way to do this is to create a test very early in Folsom that > demonstrates how a real large-scale style deployment can be upgraded to > a new version containing no code changes. Any future change that breaks > that test must be evaluated to compare the value of the change against > whatever upgrade pain will be caused. In terms of real deployments, this > issue scares me more than the fact that there are bugs. There will > always be bugs. But we can't have it be tricky and risky to deploy the > fixes. > > -David > > On 4/4/2012 2:30 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >> >> Essex is a key release in this respect. With the excellent work done >> by the developers, testers and packaging teams, OpenStack is much >> better positioned than with Diablo. >> >> As the work proceeds on Folsom, back porting critical bugs and >> planning for a smooth migration path for production sites will become >> factors in keeping the early adopters enthusiastic. These are the user >> stories that will drive the next wave of OpenStack growth as much as >> expanding the feature set. >> >> Tim Bell >> >> CERN >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : openstack [at] lists > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack [at] lists Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Subject User Time OpenStack immaturity han.sebastien at gmail Apr 4, 2012, 3:24 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity diego.parrilla.santamaria at gmail Apr 4, 2012, 3:42 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity frans at meruvian Apr 4, 2012, 4:27 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity jacek at artymiak Apr 4, 2012, 5:48 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity letterj at gmail Apr 4, 2012, 5:48 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity razique.mahroua at gmail Apr 4, 2012, 6:14 AM         Re: OpenStack immaturity jan_drake at hotmail Apr 4, 2012, 7:37 AM             Re: OpenStack immaturity Tim.Bell at cern Apr 4, 2012, 11:30 AM         Re: OpenStack immaturity letterj at gmail Apr 4, 2012, 8:18 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity rlane at wikimedia Apr 4, 2012, 11:25 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity letterj at gmail Apr 4, 2012, 1:05 PM     Re: OpenStack immaturity david.kranz at qrclab Apr 4, 2012, 1:20 PM         Re: OpenStack immaturity jaypipes at gmail Apr 5, 2012, 9:43 AM             Re: OpenStack immaturity harlowja at yahoo-inc Apr 5, 2012, 11:10 AM                 Re: OpenStack immaturity mmarch at gmail Apr 5, 2012, 5:28 PM     Re: OpenStack immaturity harlowja at yahoo-inc Apr 4, 2012, 1:48 PM         Re: OpenStack immaturity amigliaccio at internap Apr 4, 2012, 2:43 PM     Re: OpenStack immaturity michael.vandeborne at cetic Apr 6, 2012, 2:47 AM         Re: OpenStack immaturity saurabh at safewlabs Apr 6, 2012, 3:59 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity mark.collier at rackspace Apr 6, 2012, 4:24 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity raja.meena at wipro Apr 6, 2012, 4:43 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity jim.curry at rackspace Apr 6, 2012, 8:56 AM         Re: OpenStack immaturity thomas at goirand Apr 6, 2012, 9:22 AM             Re: OpenStack immaturity mark.collier at rackspace Apr 6, 2012, 10:00 AM     Re: OpenStack immaturity stefano at openstack Apr 6, 2012, 12:28 PM     Re: OpenStack immaturity jim.curry at rackspace Apr 6, 2012, 1:10 PM     Re: OpenStack immaturity leandro.reox at gmail Apr 6, 2012, 2:19 PM

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