
solo-openssl at goeswhere
Apr 15, 2012, 10:43 AM
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Legacy MACs and Ciphers: Why?
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Why are legacy MACs (like md5-96), and legacy Ciphers (anything in cbc-mode, arcfour*(?)) enabled by default? My proposal would be to change the defaults for ssh_config and sshd_config to contain: MACs hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 Ciphers aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr ...removing md5, truncated versions of sha1, umac64 (for which I can find barely any review), any cipher in cbc mode and other non-mainstream algorithms. Additionally, why does ssh_config prefer hmac-md5 over less broken algorithms? Even if the above reduction of attack surface were not to happen, ssh_config could be changed such that the client prefers "more secure" algorithms if practical; i.e. change the default to: MACs hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,umac-64 [at] openssh,hmac-md5,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-sha2-512-96,hmac-sha2-256-96,hmac-md5-96 "Ciphers" already "prefers" aes128-ctr, which seems reasonable. A quick review of available ssh clients [.various free/shareware Windows clients (PuTTY derivatives (WinSCP), AbsoluteTelnet), dropbear, ConnectBot, Java libraries, ..], indicates universal support for hmac-sha1. hmac-sha256 and hmac-sha512, not so much. Everything I tested, however, was happy to ignore hmac-sha2-256 at the start of the specification list (as expected by the spec), as above. Incompatabilities of servers seem less important as the user may reconfigure the client. I am not aware of any widely deployed non-OpenSSH ssh servers to test against? I am aware that there are no attacks against MD5 with HMAC yet [RFC 6151], nor any widely reported practical attacks against cbc mode. I am aware that even SHA-1's use in as part of an HMAC construction has not been deprecated[1]. I feel that the migration away from otherwise deprecated technologies is the right way to go? If not, I'm interested in what decisions have been made with respect to these lists. Speed may be a consideration; MD5 is "faster"[2] than any of the SHA- algorithms. Maximum compatability, possibly. Anything else? [1]: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/policy.html [2]: http://www.cryptopp.com/benchmarks.html _______________________________________________ openssh-unix-dev mailing list openssh-unix-dev [at] mindrot https://lists.mindrot.org/mailman/listinfo/openssh-unix-dev
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