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hahn at berkom

Dec 2, 2009, 12:41 AM

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Re: issue with SLAAC and deprecated IPv6 addresses on recent windowsversions

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Sean Siler schrieb:
> Or you could get really luck and have the guy who owns IPv6 in Windows see your bug while browsing IPv6 Ops. :)
>
> This is a terrific catch, Christian. I'll ask some folks to take a look at it.
That's nice news, Sean. Please let us know, if you can confirm that bug and also
if there is any progress in kicking it out ;)

cheers,
Christian
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>
>
> Sean Siler
> Sr. IPv6 Program Manager
> Microsoft
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6-ops-bounces+sean.siler=microsoft.com [at] lists [mailto:ipv6-ops-bounces+sean.siler=microsoft.com [at] lists] On Behalf Of Scott Beuker
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 13:06
> To: Christian Hahn
> Cc: IPv6 Ops list
> Subject: RE: issue with SLAAC and deprecated IPv6 addresses on recent windowsversions
>
> Interesting bug, nice job in finding it.
>
> I was talking to a friend who works at MS about what (if any) viable
> avenues there are to report a bug like this and actually stand a chance
> of getting it resolved. He recommend this:
>
> http://connect.microsoft.com/WNDP/Feedback
>
> I have no idea how much mileage you would get down this avenue, but if
> you're feeling optimistic give it a shot, and let me know and I'll be
> sure to create an account just to vote your bug up. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ipv6-ops-bounces+scott.beuker=sjrb.ca [at] lists
>> [mailto:ipv6-ops-bounces+scott.beuker=sjrb.ca [at] lists] On
>> Behalf Of Christian Hahn
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:54 AM
>> To: IPv6 Ops list
>> Subject: issue with SLAAC and deprecated IPv6 addresses on recent
>> windowsversions
>>
> Hi list,
>
> In a lab I did some testing with SLAAC and different OSs and recently
> stumbled
> upon an issue on recent windows versions. It is only present on Vista
> and 7, not
> on XP. But let me tell you the story ...
>
> I deprecated an formerly (by RA) announced IPv6 prefix (let's say
> 2001:db8:1:2::/64) by sending some RAs with PreferredLifetime=0 and
> ValidLifetime=7200 and thereafter stopped sending RAs.
> All windows machines behaved correctly and deprecated the addresses
> derived from
> that prefix. Outgoing connections no longer used it as source address,
> but
> incoming packets (like icmpv6 echo request) where answered due to the
> valid
> "ValidLifetime" value. ;)
>
> Then in the second step (after some minutes of testing) I tried to re-
> activate
> the _same_ prefix (2001:db8:1:2::/64) by sending periodic RAs with
> PreferredLifetime=86400 and ValidLifetime=43200. And here the weird
> things
> began. On Vista and 7 the values for the "Lifetimes" where updated to
> the new
> ones derived from the RA, but the prefix status didn't change. It
>> still
> was
> stuck in status "deprecated". Hence the still valid IPv6 addresses
>> from
> that
> prefix (2001:db8:1:2::/64) wasn't used as source addresses for new
> connections,
> only old connections used it and incoming packets where answered.
>
> On XP it was different. The prefix came back to life, changed to
>> status
> "preferred" and the system again used it's 2001:db8:1:2::/64 IPv6
> addresses as
> source address for new connections.
>
> To proof it I replicated the test, and restarted all machines
> beforehand. But
> the result didn't change, hence it seems it is "stable" behavior.
>
> I assume it's not the proper behavior, but found no clue in RFC4862
> (SLAAC)
> where I was looking for allowed status changes or similar.
> Has anybody seen a similar behavior or made similar tests with
>> different
> results?
>
> BTW. I used radvd 1.1 on Ubuntu 9.04 on the router side.
>
> cheers,
> Christian
> ------------------
> gpg fingerprint:
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dr at cluenet

Jun 16, 2011, 8:05 AM

Post #2 of 2 (416 views)
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Re: issue with SLAAC and deprecated IPv6 addresses on recent windowsversions [In reply to]

Hi,

is there any progress fixing this grave bug? I regularily run into it
here, with a fully patched windows 7 netbook.

This one is very high on our list of problems residential customer will
run into...

Best regards,
Daniel

On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 09:41:38AM +0100, Christian Hahn wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> Sean Siler schrieb:
> > Or you could get really luck and have the guy who owns IPv6 in Windows
> > see your bug while browsing IPv6 Ops. :)
> >
> > This is a terrific catch, Christian. I'll ask some folks to take a
> > look at it.
> That's nice news, Sean. Please let us know, if you can confirm that bug and also
> if there is any progress in kicking it out ;)
>
> cheers,
> Christian
> - ------------------
> gpg fingerprint:
> 31E4 283B 5EFD 920C 3DD4 CC3E EA43 16EC 75BC EB6D
>
> >
> >
> > Sean Siler
> > Sr. IPv6 Program Manager
> > Microsoft
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipv6-ops-bounces+sean.siler=microsoft.com [at] lists [mailto:ipv6-ops-bounces+sean.siler=microsoft.com [at] lists] On Behalf Of Scott Beuker
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 13:06
> > To: Christian Hahn
> > Cc: IPv6 Ops list
> > Subject: RE: issue with SLAAC and deprecated IPv6 addresses on recent windowsversions
> >
> > Interesting bug, nice job in finding it.
> >
> > I was talking to a friend who works at MS about what (if any) viable
> > avenues there are to report a bug like this and actually stand a chance
> > of getting it resolved. He recommend this:
> >
> > http://connect.microsoft.com/WNDP/Feedback
> >
> > I have no idea how much mileage you would get down this avenue, but if
> > you're feeling optimistic give it a shot, and let me know and I'll be
> > sure to create an account just to vote your bug up. :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ipv6-ops-bounces+scott.beuker=sjrb.ca [at] lists
> >> [mailto:ipv6-ops-bounces+scott.beuker=sjrb.ca [at] lists] On
> >> Behalf Of Christian Hahn
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:54 AM
> >> To: IPv6 Ops list
> >> Subject: issue with SLAAC and deprecated IPv6 addresses on recent
> >> windowsversions
> >>
> > Hi list,
> >
> > In a lab I did some testing with SLAAC and different OSs and recently
> > stumbled
> > upon an issue on recent windows versions. It is only present on Vista
> > and 7, not
> > on XP. But let me tell you the story ...
> >
> > I deprecated an formerly (by RA) announced IPv6 prefix (let's say
> > 2001:db8:1:2::/64) by sending some RAs with PreferredLifetime=0 and
> > ValidLifetime=7200 and thereafter stopped sending RAs.
> > All windows machines behaved correctly and deprecated the addresses
> > derived from
> > that prefix. Outgoing connections no longer used it as source address,
> > but
> > incoming packets (like icmpv6 echo request) where answered due to the
> > valid
> > "ValidLifetime" value. ;)
> >
> > Then in the second step (after some minutes of testing) I tried to re-
> > activate
> > the _same_ prefix (2001:db8:1:2::/64) by sending periodic RAs with
> > PreferredLifetime=86400 and ValidLifetime=43200. And here the weird
> > things
> > began. On Vista and 7 the values for the "Lifetimes" where updated to
> > the new
> > ones derived from the RA, but the prefix status didn't change. It
> >> still
> > was
> > stuck in status "deprecated". Hence the still valid IPv6 addresses
> >> from
> > that
> > prefix (2001:db8:1:2::/64) wasn't used as source addresses for new
> > connections,
> > only old connections used it and incoming packets where answered.
> >
> > On XP it was different. The prefix came back to life, changed to
> >> status
> > "preferred" and the system again used it's 2001:db8:1:2::/64 IPv6
> > addresses as
> > source address for new connections.
> >
> > To proof it I replicated the test, and restarted all machines
> > beforehand. But
> > the result didn't change, hence it seems it is "stable" behavior.
> >
> > I assume it's not the proper behavior, but found no clue in RFC4862
> > (SLAAC)
> > where I was looking for allowed status changes or similar.
> > Has anybody seen a similar behavior or made similar tests with
> >> different
> > results?
> >
> > BTW. I used radvd 1.1 on Ubuntu 9.04 on the router side.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Christian
> > ------------------
> > gpg fingerprint:
> > 31E4 283B 5EFD 920C 3DD4 CC3E EA43 16EC 75BC EB6D
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