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Nov 17, 2009, 4:16 AM

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Re: ipv6-ops Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6

Where do the 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1 come from? What builds an IPv6 address
this way from its IPv4 (rfc1918) addr and why??

On Nov 17, 2009 6:00 AM, <ipv6-ops-request [at] lists> wrote:

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Today's Topics:

1. Top Websites Running IPv6 (Mike Leber)
2. Re: Top Websites Running IPv6 (Daniel Verlouw)
3. Re: Top Websites Running IPv6 (Mike Leber)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:18:07 -0800
From: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
Subject: Top Websites Running IPv6
To: ipv6-ops [at] lists
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I updated the report that we run at
http://bgp.he.net/ipv6-progress-report.cgi to check the Alexa top 1
million websites. We now also check www. and ipv6. for each domain as
well. It reveals that quite a few major websites have either added AAAA
records for their main website or are testing ipv6 at an ipv6. subdomain.

Below is copy of the new section for your entertainment.

Mike.
---

Top Websites Running IPv6
A very quick way to measure IPv6 deployment for websites is just to
check for a AAAA record in DNS.

Alexa provides an approximate list of the most popular sites on the web.

In the report below, the raw domain is the base domain, such as free.fr,
which does not have an AAAA record (at the time of this writing).
However www.free.fr *does* have a AAAA record. So we check both.

Another convention is to add an AAAA using ipv6 as a subdomain, i.e.
ipv6.google.com. The reason so many domains show up as having A records
for "ipv6." subdomains is because many domains use wildcard records in
DNS which respond to queries for any subdomain.

Alexa Top 1 Million Domains Downloaded: Sat Nov 14 21:47:15 2009
Alexa Top 1 Million Domains Processed: Sat Nov 14 22:25:51 2009

Alexa 1M raw domains: 1000000
Alexa 1M raw with a direct IPv4 address: 924219
Alexa 1M raw with a direct IPv6 address: 1441

(top 50)
ucla.edu 2607:f010:3fe:201:101d:9ff:fe32:adee
tribune.com 2002:a3c0:1712::a3c0:1712
internic.net 2620:0:2d0:200::9
freebsd.org 2001:4f8:fff6::28
gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
animesuki.com 2001:4d88:ffff:ffff:30:524:ac23:2
koreus.com 2001:41d0:2:4133::1
geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
python.org 2001:888:2000:d::a2
filezilla-project.org 2a01:198:200:5b7::2
spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
kino.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b004
torrentfreak.com 2607:f128:40::174
ripe.net 2001:610:240:11::c100:1319
fedoraproject.org 2610:28:200:1::fed0:1
cyberciti.biz 2607:f0d0:1002:11::4
hentai-foundry.com 2607:f0d0:1003:c::30
keenspot.com 2001:470:1:3a::13
snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
icann.org 2620:0:2d0:200::7
crooksandliars.com 2001:470:a068:1:230:48ff:fe98:d1a8
softlayer.com 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::2
itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::22
infomaniak.ch 2001:1600:3:7::101
bayimg.com 2a01:298:3:1:1337::13
comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14
steadfast.net 2607:f128::2
mediabiz.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b00d
pastebin.ca 2610:1e8:2:20::e8b8:97
stream.ru 2a02:28:2::1076
weeronline.nl 2001:888:30af::206:85
maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
he.net 2001:470:0:76::2
fernuni-hagen.de 2002:84b0:8101::84b0:8101
exchangecash.de 6563:6173:6802:6465:0:1c00:100:0
pcc.edu 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1
sify.com 2001:e48:0:10::10
iana.org 2620:0:2d0:1::193
torrentbits.ro 2001:4d18:0:1::32
geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
starlink.ru 2a00:e78::7
netbynet.ru 2a00:d18:f00d:d401:fe0b:101:0:67
rcts.pt 2001:690:a00:1036:804::111
cbn.net.id 2001:d10:2:80::80
liu.se 2001:6b0:17:f005::148
phoenixlabs.org 2001:0:53aa:64c:4cc:2161:b717:a85
ubuntu.ru 2001:780:0:25:206:5bff:fe04:8bcb
luc.edu 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1
menagea3.net 2001:470:1:3a::13

www. + Alexa 1M domains: 1000000
www. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv4 address: 970789
www. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv6 address: 1904

(top 50)
www.ucla.edu 2607:f010:3fe:301:101d:9ff:fe32:a7db
www.sakura.ne.jp 2001:e40:100:407::d2e0:ac35
www.free.fr 2a01:e0c:1:1599::1
www.doctissimo.fr 2a01:7b0:2:3::26
www.dti.ne.jp 2001:2e8:22:13::103
www.odn.ne.jp 2001:278:0:1106::4
www.leaseweb.com 2001:1af8:3100:1:214:22ff:fe1e:d380
www.ripe.net 2001:610:240:11::c100:1319
www.monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
www.kddi.com 2001:268:fd02::1
www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
www.freebsd.org 2001:4f8:fff6::21
www.internic.net 2620:0:2d0:200::9
www.koreus.com 2001:41d0:2:4136::1
www.animesuki.com 2001:4d88:ffff:ffff:30:524:ac23:2
www.geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
www.kino.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b003
www.spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
www.torrentfreak.com 2607:f128:40::174
www.tvrage.com 2a02:898::110:1
www.rmc.fr 2001:41d0:1:7b1f::1
www.snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
www.ulaval.ca 2620:0:1af0:144:ffff::fff2
www.fedoraproject.org 2610:28:200:1::fed0:1
www.icann.org 2620:0:2d0:200::7
www.spele.nl 2a00:f80::10
www.ietf.org 2001:1890:1112:1::20
www.arin.net 2001:500:4:13::81
www.hentai-foundry.com 2607:f0d0:1003:c::30
www.k12.pa.us 2001:5e8:0:1000::fc
www.keenspot.com 2001:470:1:3a::13
www.comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14
www.01net.com 2001:41d0:1:118::1
www.hitachi.co.jp 2001:240:400::8591:e013
www.iastate.edu 2610:130:101:102::f0
www.cuhk.edu.hk 2405:3000:3:b0:137:189:11:71
www.ntua.gr 2001:648:2000:de::210
www.rtbf.be 2001:1600:3:6::101
www.nta.go.jp 2001:c80:a001:1::cad9:2c8f
www.up.pt 2001:690:2200:a10::13
www.cyberciti.biz 2607:f0d0:1002:11::4
www.steadfast.net 2607:f128::2
www.infomaniak.ch 2001:1600:3:7::101
www.softlayer.com 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
www.maine.edu 2610:48:100:820::103
www.univie.ac.at 2001:62a:4:1::80:108
www.itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::22
www.upc.edu 2001:40b0:7500:1::21
www.liu.se 2001:6b0:17:f005::148
www.nnm-club.ru 2001:470:1f0a:1505::2

ipv6. + Alexa 1M domains: 1000000
ipv6. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv4 address: 243852
ipv6. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv6 address: 1031

(top 50)
ipv6.netflix.com 2620:0:ef0:13::20
ipv6.2ch.net 2407:3000:6:175::12
ipv6.comcast.net 2001:558:1002:5:68:87:64:48
ipv6.google.com 2001:4860:b004::68
ipv6.google.co.jp 2001:4860:b002::68
ipv6.berkeley.edu 2607:f140:ffff:ffff::80
ipv6.zerolag.com 2001:470:1e::9
ipv6.seznam.cz 2a02:598:1::101
ipv6.21cn.com 2042:8800:1::3
ipv6.denic.de 2001:608:6::1
ipv6.iwiw.hu 2001:4c48:2:a::1
ipv6.freemail.hu 2001:4c48:2:f::100
ipv6.bt.com 2002:c171:3a71::1
ipv6.pku.edu.cn 2001:da8:201:1129:203:baff:fe2f:163c
ipv6.sony.co.jp 2001:cf8:0:6b::190
ipv6.df.eu 2a00:1158:0:100::3
ipv6.koreus.com 2001:41d0:2:4233::1
ipv6.vt.edu 2001:468:c80:210f:0:1c6:1a85:8564
ipv6.tsinghua.edu.cn 2001:da8:1:100::80
ipv6.24ur.com 2001:6f8:919::1
ipv6.dyndns.com 2607:f590:0:ffff::29
ipv6.gatech.edu 2001:468:300:ee01:a00:2bff:fec4:4e8e
ipv6.gazeta.pl 2a02:bd8:1::50fc:91
ipv6.italiansubs.net 2001:41d0:1:8364::1
ipv6.monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
ipv6.bsnl.co.in 2001:4490:100:ff:3::
ipv6.hopto.org 2001:470:8:145::1
ipv6.sify.com 2001:e48:0:6::5
ipv6.spoluzaci.cz 2a02:598:1::102
ipv6.twbbs.org 2001:e10:6840:20:20f:eaff:fe56:ea22
ipv6.peta.org 2001:4978:f:36f::2
ipv6.afraid.org 2001:470:d19b::203
ipv6.ku.ac.th 2001:3c8:1303:1125::18
ipv6.ovh.com 2001:41d0:1:10::d5ba:2122
ipv6.comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14
ipv6.eircom.net 2001:bb0:dd0::2
ipv6.atw.hu 2a01:270::4
ipv6.unm.edu 3ffe:2900:11:10::1
ipv6.rtvslo.si 2a02:7a8:0:1::80:1
ipv6.itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::19
ipv6.sjtu.edu.cn 2001:da8:8000:1::80
ipv6.weeronline.nl 2001:888:30af::206:87
ipv6.infomaniak.ch 2001:1600::ffff
ipv6.nnm-club.ru 2001:470:1f0a:1505::2
ipv6.lsu.edu 2620:0:da0:f001::7
ipv6.iana.org 2620:0:2d0:1::194
ipv6.trueinternet.co.th 2001:fb0:100:1:58:97:5:30
ipv6.gsa.gov 2620:0:150:ffad::5
ipv6.spele.nl 2a00:f80::10
ipv6.uni-erlangen.de 2001:638:a00:2::2


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:42:08 +0100
From: Daniel Verlouw <daniel [at] bit>
Subject: Re: Top Websites Running IPv6
To: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
Cc: ipv6-ops [at] lists
Message-ID: <1258454528.13409.10.camel [at] daniel>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 02:18 -0800, Mike Leber wrote:
> gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131

[...etc... you get the picture]

JFYI: these are all AAAA records pointing to an IPv6-to-IPv4 proxy. The
actual sites themselves don't have native IPv6 connectivity.

daniel [at] danie:~$ dig -x 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 +short
ipv6proxy.prolocation.net.

--Daniel.



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:50:19 -0800
From: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
Subject: Re: Top Websites Running IPv6
To: Daniel Verlouw <daniel [at] bit>
Cc: ipv6-ops [at] lists
Message-ID: <4B027FEB.6020503 [at] he>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


Daniel Verlouw wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 02:18 -0800, Mike Leber wrote:
>> gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
>> geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
>> spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
>> snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
>> maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
>> geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
>> www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
>
> [...etc... you get the picture]
>
> JFYI: these are all AAAA records pointing to an IPv6-to-IPv4 proxy. The
> actual sites themselves don't have native IPv6 connectivity.
>
> daniel [at] danie:~$ dig -x 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 +short
> ipv6proxy.prolocation.net.

Yep, and if you look closely at the others listed you'll find other
anomalous entries that either indicate interesting transitional choices
or outright mistakes. If notice something like that and know any of the
people involved you might make a polite inquiry.

In any case, AAAA records are getting added for major websites.

Mike.


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ryanczak at arin

Nov 17, 2009, 4:26 AM

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Re: ipv6-ops Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6 [In reply to]

My guess is that they come from the same consultant that set up both of
those edu sites.

On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 07:16 -0500, TJ wrote:
> Where do the 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1 come from? What builds an IPv6
> address this way from its IPv4 (rfc1918) addr and why??
>
> > On Nov 17, 2009 6:00 AM, <ipv6-ops-request [at] lists> wrote:
> >
> > Send ipv6-ops mailing list submissions to
> > ipv6-ops [at] lists
> >
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > http://lists.cluenet.de/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-ops
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > ipv6-ops-request [at] lists
> >
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > ipv6-ops-owner [at] lists
> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of ipv6-ops digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Top Websites Running IPv6 (Mike Leber)
> > 2. Re: Top Websites Running IPv6 (Daniel Verlouw)
> > 3. Re: Top Websites Running IPv6 (Mike Leber)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:18:07 -0800
> > From: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
> > Subject: Top Websites Running IPv6
> > To: ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > Message-ID: <4B02785F.8030402 [at] he>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > I updated the report that we run at
> > http://bgp.he.net/ipv6-progress-report.cgi to check the Alexa top 1
> > million websites. We now also check www. and ipv6. for each domain
> > as
> > well. It reveals that quite a few major websites have either added
> > AAAA
> > records for their main website or are testing ipv6 at an ipv6.
> > subdomain.
> >
> > Below is copy of the new section for your entertainment.
> >
> > Mike.
> > ---
> >
> > Top Websites Running IPv6
> > A very quick way to measure IPv6 deployment for websites is just to
> > check for a AAAA record in DNS.
> >
> > Alexa provides an approximate list of the most popular sites on the
> > web.
> >
> > In the report below, the raw domain is the base domain, such as
> > free.fr,
> > which does not have an AAAA record (at the time of this writing).
> > However www.free.fr *does* have a AAAA record. So we check both.
> >
> > Another convention is to add an AAAA using ipv6 as a subdomain, i.e.
> > ipv6.google.com. The reason so many domains show up as having A
> > records
> > for "ipv6." subdomains is because many domains use wildcard records
> > in
> > DNS which respond to queries for any subdomain.
> >
> > Alexa Top 1 Million Domains Downloaded: Sat Nov 14 21:47:15 2009
> > Alexa Top 1 Million Domains Processed: Sat Nov 14 22:25:51 2009
> >
> > Alexa 1M raw domains: 1000000
> > Alexa 1M raw with a direct IPv4 address: 924219
> > Alexa 1M raw with a direct IPv6 address: 1441
> >
> > (top 50)
> > ucla.edu 2607:f010:3fe:201:101d:9ff:fe32:adee
> > tribune.com 2002:a3c0:1712::a3c0:1712
> > internic.net 2620:0:2d0:200::9
> > freebsd.org 2001:4f8:fff6::28
> > gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
> > animesuki.com 2001:4d88:ffff:ffff:30:524:ac23:2
> > koreus.com 2001:41d0:2:4133::1
> > geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > python.org 2001:888:2000:d::a2
> > filezilla-project.org 2a01:198:200:5b7::2
> > spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > kino.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b004
> > torrentfreak.com 2607:f128:40::174
> > ripe.net 2001:610:240:11::c100:1319
> > fedoraproject.org 2610:28:200:1::fed0:1
> > cyberciti.biz 2607:f0d0:1002:11::4
> > hentai-foundry.com 2607:f0d0:1003:c::30
> > keenspot.com 2001:470:1:3a::13
> > snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > icann.org 2620:0:2d0:200::7
> > crooksandliars.com 2001:470:a068:1:230:48ff:fe98:d1a8
> > softlayer.com 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::2
> > itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::22
> > infomaniak.ch 2001:1600:3:7::101
> > bayimg.com 2a01:298:3:1:1337::13
> > comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14
> > steadfast.net 2607:f128::2
> > mediabiz.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b00d
> > pastebin.ca 2610:1e8:2:20::e8b8:97
> > stream.ru 2a02:28:2::1076
> > weeronline.nl 2001:888:30af::206:85
> > maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > he.net 2001:470:0:76::2
> > fernuni-hagen.de 2002:84b0:8101::84b0:8101
> > exchangecash.de 6563:6173:6802:6465:0:1c00:100:0
> > pcc.edu 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1
> > sify.com 2001:e48:0:10::10
> > iana.org 2620:0:2d0:1::193
> > torrentbits.ro 2001:4d18:0:1::32
> > geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > starlink.ru 2a00:e78::7
> > netbynet.ru 2a00:d18:f00d:d401:fe0b:101:0:67
> > rcts.pt 2001:690:a00:1036:804::111
> > cbn.net.id 2001:d10:2:80::80
> > liu.se 2001:6b0:17:f005::148
> > phoenixlabs.org 2001:0:53aa:64c:4cc:2161:b717:a85
> > ubuntu.ru 2001:780:0:25:206:5bff:fe04:8bcb
> > luc.edu 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1
> > menagea3.net 2001:470:1:3a::13
> >
> > www. + Alexa 1M domains: 1000000
> > www. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv4 address: 970789
> > www. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv6 address: 1904
> >
> > (top 50)
> > www.ucla.edu 2607:f010:3fe:301:101d:9ff:fe32:a7db
> > www.sakura.ne.jp 2001:e40:100:407::d2e0:ac35
> > www.free.fr 2a01:e0c:1:1599::1
> > www.doctissimo.fr 2a01:7b0:2:3::26
> > www.dti.ne.jp 2001:2e8:22:13::103
> > www.odn.ne.jp 2001:278:0:1106::4
> > www.leaseweb.com 2001:1af8:3100:1:214:22ff:fe1e:d380
> > www.ripe.net 2001:610:240:11::c100:1319
> > www.monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
> > www.kddi.com 2001:268:fd02::1
> > www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > www.freebsd.org 2001:4f8:fff6::21
> > www.internic.net 2620:0:2d0:200::9
> > www.koreus.com 2001:41d0:2:4136::1
> > www.animesuki.com 2001:4d88:ffff:ffff:30:524:ac23:2
> > www.geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > www.kino.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b003
> > www.spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > www.torrentfreak.com 2607:f128:40::174
> > www.tvrage.com 2a02:898::110:1
> > www.rmc.fr 2001:41d0:1:7b1f::1
> > www.snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > www.ulaval.ca 2620:0:1af0:144:ffff::fff2
> > www.fedoraproject.org 2610:28:200:1::fed0:1
> > www.icann.org 2620:0:2d0:200::7
> > www.spele.nl 2a00:f80::10
> > www.ietf.org 2001:1890:1112:1::20
> > www.arin.net 2001:500:4:13::81
> > www.hentai-foundry.com 2607:f0d0:1003:c::30
> > www.k12.pa.us 2001:5e8:0:1000::fc
> > www.keenspot.com 2001:470:1:3a::13
> > www.comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14
> > www.01net.com 2001:41d0:1:118::1
> > www.hitachi.co.jp 2001:240:400::8591:e013
> > www.iastate.edu 2610:130:101:102::f0
> > www.cuhk.edu.hk 2405:3000:3:b0:137:189:11:71
> > www.ntua.gr 2001:648:2000:de::210
> > www.rtbf.be 2001:1600:3:6::101
> > www.nta.go.jp 2001:c80:a001:1::cad9:2c8f
> > www.up.pt 2001:690:2200:a10::13
> > www.cyberciti.biz 2607:f0d0:1002:11::4
> > www.steadfast.net 2607:f128::2
> > www.infomaniak.ch 2001:1600:3:7::101
> > www.softlayer.com 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
> > www.maine.edu 2610:48:100:820::103
> > www.univie.ac.at 2001:62a:4:1::80:108
> > www.itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::22
> > www.upc.edu 2001:40b0:7500:1::21
> > www.liu.se 2001:6b0:17:f005::148
> > www.nnm-club.ru 2001:470:1f0a:1505::2
> >
> > ipv6. + Alexa 1M domains: 1000000
> > ipv6. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv4 address: 243852
> > ipv6. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv6 address: 1031
> >
> > (top 50)
> > ipv6.netflix.com 2620:0:ef0:13::20
> > ipv6.2ch.net 2407:3000:6:175::12
> > ipv6.comcast.net 2001:558:1002:5:68:87:64:48
> > ipv6.google.com 2001:4860:b004::68
> > ipv6.google.co.jp 2001:4860:b002::68
> > ipv6.berkeley.edu 2607:f140:ffff:ffff::80
> > ipv6.zerolag.com 2001:470:1e::9
> > ipv6.seznam.cz 2a02:598:1::101
> > ipv6.21cn.com 2042:8800:1::3
> > ipv6.denic.de 2001:608:6::1
> > ipv6.iwiw.hu 2001:4c48:2:a::1
> > ipv6.freemail.hu 2001:4c48:2:f::100
> > ipv6.bt.com 2002:c171:3a71::1
> > ipv6.pku.edu.cn 2001:da8:201:1129:203:baff:fe2f:163c
> > ipv6.sony.co.jp 2001:cf8:0:6b::190
> > ipv6.df.eu 2a00:1158:0:100::3
> > ipv6.koreus.com 2001:41d0:2:4233::1
> > ipv6.vt.edu 2001:468:c80:210f:0:1c6:1a85:8564
> > ipv6.tsinghua.edu.cn 2001:da8:1:100::80
> > ipv6.24ur.com 2001:6f8:919::1
> > ipv6.dyndns.com 2607:f590:0:ffff::29
> > ipv6.gatech.edu 2001:468:300:ee01:a00:2bff:fec4:4e8e
> > ipv6.gazeta.pl 2a02:bd8:1::50fc:91
> > ipv6.italiansubs.net 2001:41d0:1:8364::1
> > ipv6.monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
> > ipv6.bsnl.co.in 2001:4490:100:ff:3::
> > ipv6.hopto.org 2001:470:8:145::1
> > ipv6.sify.com 2001:e48:0:6::5
> > ipv6.spoluzaci.cz 2a02:598:1::102
> > ipv6.twbbs.org 2001:e10:6840:20:20f:eaff:fe56:ea22
> > ipv6.peta.org 2001:4978:f:36f::2
> > ipv6.afraid.org 2001:470:d19b::203
> > ipv6.ku.ac.th 2001:3c8:1303:1125::18
> > ipv6.ovh.com 2001:41d0:1:10::d5ba:2122
> > ipv6.comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14
> > ipv6.eircom.net 2001:bb0:dd0::2
> > ipv6.atw.hu 2a01:270::4
> > ipv6.unm.edu 3ffe:2900:11:10::1
> > ipv6.rtvslo.si 2a02:7a8:0:1::80:1
> > ipv6.itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::19
> > ipv6.sjtu.edu.cn 2001:da8:8000:1::80
> > ipv6.weeronline.nl 2001:888:30af::206:87
> > ipv6.infomaniak.ch 2001:1600::ffff
> > ipv6.nnm-club.ru 2001:470:1f0a:1505::2
> > ipv6.lsu.edu 2620:0:da0:f001::7
> > ipv6.iana.org 2620:0:2d0:1::194
> > ipv6.trueinternet.co.th 2001:fb0:100:1:58:97:5:30
> > ipv6.gsa.gov 2620:0:150:ffad::5
> > ipv6.spele.nl 2a00:f80::10
> > ipv6.uni-erlangen.de 2001:638:a00:2::2
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:42:08 +0100
> > From: Daniel Verlouw <daniel [at] bit>
> > Subject: Re: Top Websites Running IPv6
> > To: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
> > Cc: ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > Message-ID: <1258454528.13409.10.camel [at] daniel>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 02:18 -0800, Mike Leber wrote:
> > > gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> >
> > [...etc... you get the picture]
> >
> > JFYI: these are all AAAA records pointing to an IPv6-to-IPv4 proxy.
> > The
> > actual sites themselves don't have native IPv6 connectivity.
> >
> > daniel [at] danie:~$ dig -x 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 +short
> > ipv6proxy.prolocation.net.
> >
> > --Daniel.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:50:19 -0800
> > From: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
> > Subject: Re: Top Websites Running IPv6
> > To: Daniel Verlouw <daniel [at] bit>
> > Cc: ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > Message-ID: <4B027FEB.6020503 [at] he>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > Daniel Verlouw wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 02:18 -0800, Mike Leber wrote:
> > >> gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >> geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >> spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >> snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >> maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >> geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >> www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >
> > > [...etc... you get the picture]
> > >
> > > JFYI: these are all AAAA records pointing to an IPv6-to-IPv4
> > proxy. The
> > > actual sites themselves don't have native IPv6 connectivity.
> > >
> > > daniel [at] danie:~$ dig -x 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 +short
> > > ipv6proxy.prolocation.net.
> >
> > Yep, and if you look closely at the others listed you'll find other
> > anomalous entries that either indicate interesting transitional
> > choices
> > or outright mistakes. If notice something like that and know any of
> > the
> > people involved you might make a polite inquiry.
> >
> > In any case, AAAA records are getting added for major websites.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > http://lists.cluenet.de/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-ops
> >
> >
> > End of ipv6-ops Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6
> > ***************************************
>
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RE: ipv6-ops Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6 [In reply to]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Ryanczak [mailto:ryanczak [at] arin]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 07:27
> To: trejrco [at] gmail
> Cc: ipv6-ops [at] lists
> Subject: Re: ipv6-ops Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6
>
> My guess is that they come from the same consultant that set up both of those
> edu sites.

Probably a reasonable guess. Bad enough to do it that way, but to then put those entries is outside-facing DNS, thus encouraging connectivity problems/delays for the rest of the world. "Awesome." (Atleast the 6to4-based addresses _can_ work)

/TJ



> On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 07:16 -0500, TJ wrote:
> > Where do the 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1 come from? What builds an IPv6
> > address this way from its IPv4 (rfc1918) addr and why??
> >
> > > On Nov 17, 2009 6:00 AM, <ipv6-ops-request [at] lists> wrote:
> > >
> > > Send ipv6-ops mailing list submissions to
> > > ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > >
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> > > http://lists.cluenet.de/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-ops
> > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > ipv6-ops-request [at] lists
> > >
> > > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > ipv6-ops-owner [at] lists
> > >
> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > > than "Re: Contents of ipv6-ops digest..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Top Websites Running IPv6 (Mike Leber)
> > > 2. Re: Top Websites Running IPv6 (Daniel Verlouw)
> > > 3. Re: Top Websites Running IPv6 (Mike Leber)
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:18:07 -0800
> > > From: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
> > > Subject: Top Websites Running IPv6
> > > To: ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > > Message-ID: <4B02785F.8030402 [at] he>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
> > >
> > >
> > > I updated the report that we run at
> > > http://bgp.he.net/ipv6-progress-report.cgi to check the Alexa top 1
> > > million websites. We now also check www. and ipv6. for each domain
> > > as well. It reveals that quite a few major websites have either
> > > added AAAA records for their main website or are testing ipv6 at an
> > > ipv6.
> > > subdomain.
> > >
> > > Below is copy of the new section for your entertainment.
> > >
> > > Mike.
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Top Websites Running IPv6
> > > A very quick way to measure IPv6 deployment for websites is just to
> > > check for a AAAA record in DNS.
> > >
> > > Alexa provides an approximate list of the most popular sites on the
> > > web.
> > >
> > > In the report below, the raw domain is the base domain, such as
> > > free.fr, which does not have an AAAA record (at the time of this
> > > writing).
> > > However www.free.fr *does* have a AAAA record. So we check both.
> > >
> > > Another convention is to add an AAAA using ipv6 as a subdomain, i.e.
> > > ipv6.google.com. The reason so many domains show up as having A
> > > records for "ipv6." subdomains is because many domains use wildcard
> > > records in DNS which respond to queries for any subdomain.
> > >
> > > Alexa Top 1 Million Domains Downloaded: Sat Nov 14 21:47:15 2009
> > > Alexa Top 1 Million Domains Processed: Sat Nov 14 22:25:51 2009
> > >
> > > Alexa 1M raw domains: 1000000
> > > Alexa 1M raw with a direct IPv4 address: 924219 Alexa 1M raw with a
> > > direct IPv6 address: 1441
> > >
> > > (top 50)
> > > ucla.edu 2607:f010:3fe:201:101d:9ff:fe32:adee
> > > tribune.com 2002:a3c0:1712::a3c0:1712 internic.net 2620:0:2d0:200::9
> > > freebsd.org 2001:4f8:fff6::28 gamershell.com
> > > 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
> > > animesuki.com 2001:4d88:ffff:ffff:30:524:ac23:2 koreus.com
> > > 2001:41d0:2:4133::1 geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > python.org 2001:888:2000:d::a2 filezilla-project.org
> > > 2a01:198:200:5b7::2 spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > kino.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b004 torrentfreak.com 2607:f128:40::174
> > > ripe.net 2001:610:240:11::c100:1319 fedoraproject.org
> > > 2610:28:200:1::fed0:1 cyberciti.biz 2607:f0d0:1002:11::4
> > > hentai-foundry.com 2607:f0d0:1003:c::30 keenspot.com
> > > 2001:470:1:3a::13 snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 icann.org
> > > 2620:0:2d0:200::7 crooksandliars.com
> > > 2001:470:a068:1:230:48ff:fe98:d1a8
> > > softlayer.com 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::2 itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::22
> > > infomaniak.ch 2001:1600:3:7::101 bayimg.com 2a01:298:3:1:1337::13
> > > comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14 steadfast.net 2607:f128::2
> > > mediabiz.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b00d pastebin.ca
> > > 2610:1e8:2:20::e8b8:97 stream.ru 2a02:28:2::1076 weeronline.nl
> > > 2001:888:30af::206:85 maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > he.net 2001:470:0:76::2 fernuni-hagen.de 2002:84b0:8101::84b0:8101
> > > exchangecash.de 6563:6173:6802:6465:0:1c00:100:0 pcc.edu
> > > 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1 sify.com 2001:e48:0:10::10 iana.org
> > > 2620:0:2d0:1::193 torrentbits.ro 2001:4d18:0:1::32 geenstijl.tv
> > > 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 starlink.ru 2a00:e78::7 netbynet.ru
> > > 2a00:d18:f00d:d401:fe0b:101:0:67 rcts.pt 2001:690:a00:1036:804::111
> > > cbn.net.id 2001:d10:2:80::80 liu.se 2001:6b0:17:f005::148
> > > phoenixlabs.org 2001:0:53aa:64c:4cc:2161:b717:a85 ubuntu.ru
> > > 2001:780:0:25:206:5bff:fe04:8bcb luc.edu 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1
> > > menagea3.net 2001:470:1:3a::13
> > >
> > > www. + Alexa 1M domains: 1000000
> > > www. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv4 address: 970789 www. + Alexa 1M
> > > with a direct IPv6 address: 1904
> > >
> > > (top 50)
> > > www.ucla.edu 2607:f010:3fe:301:101d:9ff:fe32:a7db
> > > www.sakura.ne.jp 2001:e40:100:407::d2e0:ac35 www.free.fr
> > > 2a01:e0c:1:1599::1 www.doctissimo.fr 2a01:7b0:2:3::26 www.dti.ne.jp
> > > 2001:2e8:22:13::103 www.odn.ne.jp 2001:278:0:1106::4
> > > www.leaseweb.com 2001:1af8:3100:1:214:22ff:fe1e:d380
> > > www.ripe.net 2001:610:240:11::c100:1319 www.monash.edu.au
> > > 2001:388:608c:c91::117 www.kddi.com 2001:268:fd02::1
> > > www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 www.freebsd.org
> > > 2001:4f8:fff6::21 www.internic.net 2620:0:2d0:200::9 www.koreus.com
> > > 2001:41d0:2:4136::1 www.animesuki.com
> > > 2001:4d88:ffff:ffff:30:524:ac23:2 www.geenstijl.nl
> > > 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 www.kino.de 2001:a60:9003:a000::b003
> > > www.spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > www.torrentfreak.com 2607:f128:40::174 www.tvrage.com
> > > 2a02:898::110:1 www.rmc.fr 2001:41d0:1:7b1f::1 www.snotr.com
> > > 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 www.ulaval.ca
> > > 2620:0:1af0:144:ffff::fff2 www.fedoraproject.org
> > > 2610:28:200:1::fed0:1 www.icann.org 2620:0:2d0:200::7 www.spele.nl
> > > 2a00:f80::10 www.ietf.org 2001:1890:1112:1::20 www.arin.net
> > > 2001:500:4:13::81 www.hentai-foundry.com 2607:f0d0:1003:c::30
> > > www.k12.pa.us 2001:5e8:0:1000::fc www.keenspot.com 2001:470:1:3a::13
> > > www.comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14 www.01net.com
> > > 2001:41d0:1:118::1 www.hitachi.co.jp 2001:240:400::8591:e013
> > > www.iastate.edu 2610:130:101:102::f0 www.cuhk.edu.hk
> > > 2405:3000:3:b0:137:189:11:71 www.ntua.gr 2001:648:2000:de::210
> > > www.rtbf.be 2001:1600:3:6::101 www.nta.go.jp
> > > 2001:c80:a001:1::cad9:2c8f www.up.pt 2001:690:2200:a10::13
> > > www.cyberciti.biz 2607:f0d0:1002:11::4 www.steadfast.net
> > > 2607:f128::2 www.infomaniak.ch 2001:1600:3:7::101 www.softlayer.com
> > > 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1 www.maine.edu 2610:48:100:820::103
> > > www.univie.ac.at 2001:62a:4:1::80:108 www.itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::22
> > > www.upc.edu 2001:40b0:7500:1::21 www.liu.se 2001:6b0:17:f005::148
> > > www.nnm-club.ru 2001:470:1f0a:1505::2
> > >
> > > ipv6. + Alexa 1M domains: 1000000
> > > ipv6. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv4 address: 243852
> > > ipv6. + Alexa 1M with a direct IPv6 address: 1031
> > >
> > > (top 50)
> > > ipv6.netflix.com 2620:0:ef0:13::20
> > > ipv6.2ch.net 2407:3000:6:175::12
> > > ipv6.comcast.net 2001:558:1002:5:68:87:64:48
> > > ipv6.google.com 2001:4860:b004::68
> > > ipv6.google.co.jp 2001:4860:b002::68
> > > ipv6.berkeley.edu 2607:f140:ffff:ffff::80
> > > ipv6.zerolag.com 2001:470:1e::9
> > > ipv6.seznam.cz 2a02:598:1::101
> > > ipv6.21cn.com 2042:8800:1::3
> > > ipv6.denic.de 2001:608:6::1
> > > ipv6.iwiw.hu 2001:4c48:2:a::1
> > > ipv6.freemail.hu 2001:4c48:2:f::100
> > > ipv6.bt.com 2002:c171:3a71::1
> > > ipv6.pku.edu.cn 2001:da8:201:1129:203:baff:fe2f:163c
> > > ipv6.sony.co.jp 2001:cf8:0:6b::190
> > > ipv6.df.eu 2a00:1158:0:100::3
> > > ipv6.koreus.com 2001:41d0:2:4233::1
> > > ipv6.vt.edu 2001:468:c80:210f:0:1c6:1a85:8564
> > > ipv6.tsinghua.edu.cn 2001:da8:1:100::80
> > > ipv6.24ur.com 2001:6f8:919::1
> > > ipv6.dyndns.com 2607:f590:0:ffff::29
> > > ipv6.gatech.edu 2001:468:300:ee01:a00:2bff:fec4:4e8e
> > > ipv6.gazeta.pl 2a02:bd8:1::50fc:91
> > > ipv6.italiansubs.net 2001:41d0:1:8364::1
> > > ipv6.monash.edu.au 2001:388:608c:c91::117
> > > ipv6.bsnl.co.in 2001:4490:100:ff:3::
> > > ipv6.hopto.org 2001:470:8:145::1
> > > ipv6.sify.com 2001:e48:0:6::5
> > > ipv6.spoluzaci.cz 2a02:598:1::102
> > > ipv6.twbbs.org 2001:e10:6840:20:20f:eaff:fe56:ea22
> > > ipv6.peta.org 2001:4978:f:36f::2
> > > ipv6.afraid.org 2001:470:d19b::203
> > > ipv6.ku.ac.th 2001:3c8:1303:1125::18
> > > ipv6.ovh.com 2001:41d0:1:10::d5ba:2122
> > > ipv6.comicgenesis.com 2001:470:1:3a::14
> > > ipv6.eircom.net 2001:bb0:dd0::2
> > > ipv6.atw.hu 2a01:270::4
> > > ipv6.unm.edu 3ffe:2900:11:10::1
> > > ipv6.rtvslo.si 2a02:7a8:0:1::80:1
> > > ipv6.itb.ac.id 2001:d30:3::19
> > > ipv6.sjtu.edu.cn 2001:da8:8000:1::80
> > > ipv6.weeronline.nl 2001:888:30af::206:87
> > > ipv6.infomaniak.ch 2001:1600::ffff
> > > ipv6.nnm-club.ru 2001:470:1f0a:1505::2
> > > ipv6.lsu.edu 2620:0:da0:f001::7
> > > ipv6.iana.org 2620:0:2d0:1::194
> > > ipv6.trueinternet.co.th 2001:fb0:100:1:58:97:5:30
> > > ipv6.gsa.gov 2620:0:150:ffad::5
> > > ipv6.spele.nl 2a00:f80::10
> > > ipv6.uni-erlangen.de 2001:638:a00:2::2
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:42:08 +0100
> > > From: Daniel Verlouw <daniel [at] bit>
> > > Subject: Re: Top Websites Running IPv6
> > > To: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
> > > Cc: ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > > Message-ID: <1258454528.13409.10.camel [at] daniel>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 02:18 -0800, Mike Leber wrote:
> > > > gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > > geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > > spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > > snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > > maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > > geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > > www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > >
> > > [...etc... you get the picture]
> > >
> > > JFYI: these are all AAAA records pointing to an IPv6-to-IPv4 proxy.
> > > The
> > > actual sites themselves don't have native IPv6 connectivity.
> > >
> > > daniel [at] danie:~$ dig -x 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 +short
> > > ipv6proxy.prolocation.net.
> > >
> > > --Daniel.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:50:19 -0800
> > > From: Mike Leber <mleber [at] he>
> > > Subject: Re: Top Websites Running IPv6
> > > To: Daniel Verlouw <daniel [at] bit>
> > > Cc: ipv6-ops [at] lists
> > > Message-ID: <4B027FEB.6020503 [at] he>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel Verlouw wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 02:18 -0800, Mike Leber wrote:
> > > >> gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > >> geenstijl.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > >> spitsnieuws.nl 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > >> snotr.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > >> maxconsole.net 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > >> geenstijl.tv 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > >> www.gamershell.com 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131
> > > >
> > > > [...etc... you get the picture]
> > > >
> > > > JFYI: these are all AAAA records pointing to an IPv6-to-IPv4
> > > proxy. The
> > > > actual sites themselves don't have native IPv6 connectivity.
> > > >
> > > > daniel [at] danie:~$ dig -x 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131 +short
> > > > ipv6proxy.prolocation.net.
> > >
> > > Yep, and if you look closely at the others listed you'll find other
> > > anomalous entries that either indicate interesting transitional
> > > choices
> > > or outright mistakes. If notice something like that and know any of
> > > the
> > > people involved you might make a polite inquiry.
> > >
> > > In any case, AAAA records are getting added for major websites.
> > >
> > > Mike.
> > >
> > >
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> >


Chris at 7of9b

Nov 17, 2009, 6:31 AM

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>> My guess is that they come from the same consultant that set up both of
>> those
>> edu sites.
>
> Probably a reasonable guess. <snip>

I can see a few others with an AAAA of 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1 so it's not
just a couple of .edu.

http://dnshistory.org/linksto/aaaa/1.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.8.6.1.0.8.6.1.0.2.9.1.0.2.9.1.0.ip6.arpa.

ChrisB.


michael.dillon at bt

Nov 17, 2009, 8:26 AM

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> Where do the 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1 come from? What builds
> an IPv6 address this way from its IPv4 (rfc1918) addr and why??

Sites running SUSE Linux.
Read this Technical Information Document from Novell for more info
<http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ex
ternalId=10074602&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=102635143&state
Id=0%200%20102633339>

Or you can go to this URL
<http://www.novell.com/support/microsites/microsite.do>,
type in 10074602 and press the search button.

I guess someone thought that if IPv6 addresses are longer than IPv4
ones, the private addresses are just the same numbers doubled to make
them longer ;-)

Given that it is Novell and commercially supported software, it might be
possible to get them to issue a bulletin to all customers to get this
corrected and teach them about ULA addresses.

--Michael Dillon.


lists at quux

Nov 18, 2009, 5:03 AM

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<michael.dillon [at] bt> writes:

> Sites running SUSE Linux.
> Read this Technical Information Document from Novell for more info
> <http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&ex
> ternalId=10074602&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=102635143&state
> Id=0%200%20102633339>

This article refers to Netware and not Linux. But I agree, it's a bad
and strange idea.

Jens
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michael.dillon at bt

Nov 18, 2009, 5:12 AM

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> > Sites running SUSE Linux.
> > Read this Technical Information Document from Novell for more info
> >
> <http://www.novell.com/support/php/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&
> > ex
> >
> ternalId=10074602&sliceId=&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=102635143&sta
> > te
> > Id=0%200%20102633339>
>
> This article refers to Netware and not Linux. But I agree,
> it's a bad and strange idea.

Nowadays, Netware is a strange hybrid with the SUSE Linux system under
the name Open Enterprise Server. Even if it is using the Netware kernel,
you can still install things like Apache or sendmail. So companies which
trust Novell for their core network operating system now run some form
of SUSE Linux and will tend to look to Novell for support information.

That's why I think we could probably cure this problem if someone with
contacts at Novell or SUSE, could raise the issue and suggest how they
could correct their TID and issue an announcement about proper
configuration of IPv6 on their servers.

--Michael Dillon


owens at nysernet

Nov 18, 2009, 5:59 AM

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 01:12:35PM -0000, michael.dillon [at] bt wrote:
> Nowadays, Netware is a strange hybrid with the SUSE Linux system under
> the name Open Enterprise Server. Even if it is using the Netware kernel,
> you can still install things like Apache or sendmail. So companies which
> trust Novell for their core network operating system now run some form
> of SUSE Linux and will tend to look to Novell for support information.
>
> That's why I think we could probably cure this problem if someone with
> contacts at Novell or SUSE, could raise the issue and suggest how they
> could correct their TID and issue an announcement about proper
> configuration of IPv6 on their servers.

I think that this dates back to the days when some resolvers responded to AAAA queries for names that have only A records with NXDOMAIN rather than NOERROR. I had a vague recollection that Netware was in that camp, and found some complaints from the 2003 era relating to anti-spam software that rejected outbound email from a site if it couldn't resolve the domain. It appears that this crude hack was a way to satisfy that test.

Bill.

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