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jmadrid2 at gmail

Mar 28, 2011, 8:05 PM

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VE usage stats via SNMP

I know this has been discussed before, but the most recent thread I
was able to find was at least 2 years old. I need to get usage stats
for a VE via SNMP. Can this be done? I have opened a case with
Brocade, but the person I spoke to didn't seem to know much. Can
anyone please help? Thank you.

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Patrick.Cole at transact

Mar 28, 2011, 8:19 PM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

I believe from memory they said it would likely never happen due to hardware limitations. A quick check on 5.1.00b shows that the counters are still all zero.

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Subject: [f-nsp] VE usage stats via SNMP

I know this has been discussed before, but the most recent thread I
was able to find was at least 2 years old. I need to get usage stats
for a VE via SNMP. Can this be done? I have opened a case with
Brocade, but the person I spoke to didn't seem to know much. Can
anyone please help? Thank you.

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Mar 29, 2011, 5:01 AM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

Hi,

we also had that discussion with Brocade. We were told this is not
supported and won't be for the old linecards.

There are 2 humble alternatives:
-You can use the "byte-accounting" / "vlan-accounting" feature within the
vlan. Maybe it's enabled global / by default with newer releases.
But this will only record the inbound traffic.

-You can setup rate-limiters for each vlan on each interface and query
them with SNMP. That's what Foundry suggested.

But in both cases you cannot use the Interface-MIBs, afaik you need to use
those (only tried the first way):
enterprises.1991.1.1.3.2.7.1.25
enterprises.1991.1.1.3.16.1.2

If you have an MLXe you could buy the 8x10G Cards, they will have that
feature.

regards
Rolf

> I believe from memory they said it would likely never happen due to
> hardware limitations. A quick check on 5.1.00b shows that the counters
> are still all zero.
>
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> Patrick Cole <Patrick.Cole [at] transact>
> Senior Network Specialist
> TransACT
>
> Telephone: 02 6229 8115
> Facsimile: 02 6229 8077
> Mobile: 0410 626 630
>
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>
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> [foundry-nsp-bounces [at] puck] On Behalf Of Jose Madrid
> [jmadrid2 [at] gmail]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:05 PM
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> Subject: [f-nsp] VE usage stats via SNMP
>
> I know this has been discussed before, but the most recent thread I
> was able to find was at least 2 years old. I need to get usage stats
> for a VE via SNMP. Can this be done? I have opened a case with
> Brocade, but the person I spoke to didn't seem to know much. Can
> anyone please help? Thank you.
>
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bdflemin at gmail

Mar 29, 2011, 8:19 AM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

>
> If you have an MLXe you could buy the 8x10G Cards, they will have that
> feature.

I believe the new 24x1Gbps card also has these counters(?). I don't
have one to confirm though.
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bmannella at gmail

Mar 29, 2011, 8:46 AM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

I have the MLXe with the 24 port x card. I can confirm still no counters. Just the 8 port 10g card.

Brendan Mannella
TeraSwitch Networks Inc.
Office: 412.224.4333 x303
Mobile: 412.592.7848
Efax: 412.202.7094

On Mar 29, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Brad Fleming <bdflemin [at] gmail> wrote:

>>
>> If you have an MLXe you could buy the 8x10G Cards, they will have that
>> feature.
>
> I believe the new 24x1Gbps card also has these counters(?). I don't have one to confirm though.
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jmadrid2 at gmail

Mar 29, 2011, 9:11 AM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

I have the 8 x 10Gbe card and am getting traffic stats of 0 for the
VE. What am I doing wrong?

From show mod: SL 1: NI-MLX-10Gx8-M 8-port 10GbE

Grab the ifIndex
# snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifdescr | grep v116
IF-MIB::ifDescr.16777332 = STRING: v116

Try to grab in counters for the ifIndex
# snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifInOctets.16777332
IF-MIB::ifInOctets.16777332 = Counter32: 0

Try to grab out counters for the ifIndex
# snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifOutOctets.16777332
IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.16777332 = Counter32: 0

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Brendan Mannella <bmannella [at] gmail> wrote:
> I have the MLXe with the 24 port x card. I can confirm still no counters. Just the 8 port 10g card.
>
> Brendan Mannella
> TeraSwitch Networks Inc.
> Office: 412.224.4333 x303
> Mobile: 412.592.7848
> Efax: 412.202.7094
>
> On Mar 29, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Brad Fleming <bdflemin [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> If you have an MLXe you could buy the 8x10G Cards, they will have that
>>> feature.
>>
>> I believe the new 24x1Gbps card also has these counters(?). I don't have one to confirm though.
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bmannella at gmail

Mar 29, 2011, 2:25 PM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

If I am not mistaking it is just the 8 port xmr version which I don't think is out yet.

Brendan Mannella
TeraSwitch Networks Inc.
Office: 412.224.4333 x303
Mobile: 412.592.7848
Efax: 412.202.7094

On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Jose Madrid <jmadrid2 [at] gmail> wrote:

> I have the 8 x 10Gbe card and am getting traffic stats of 0 for the
> VE. What am I doing wrong?
>
> From show mod: SL 1: NI-MLX-10Gx8-M 8-port 10GbE
>
> Grab the ifIndex
> # snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifdescr | grep v116
> IF-MIB::ifDescr.16777332 = STRING: v116
>
> Try to grab in counters for the ifIndex
> # snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifInOctets.16777332
> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.16777332 = Counter32: 0
>
> Try to grab out counters for the ifIndex
> # snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifOutOctets.16777332
> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.16777332 = Counter32: 0
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Brendan Mannella <bmannella [at] gmail> wrote:
>> I have the MLXe with the 24 port x card. I can confirm still no counters. Just the 8 port 10g card.
>>
>> Brendan Mannella
>> TeraSwitch Networks Inc.
>> Office: 412.224.4333 x303
>> Mobile: 412.592.7848
>> Efax: 412.202.7094
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Brad Fleming <bdflemin [at] gmail> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have an MLXe you could buy the 8x10G Cards, they will have that
>>>> feature.
>>>
>>> I believe the new 24x1Gbps card also has these counters(?). I don't have one to confirm though.
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niels=foundry-nsp at bakker

Mar 29, 2011, 5:05 PM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

* bmannella [at] gmail (Brendan Mannella) [Tue 29 Mar 2011, 23:28 CEST]:
>If I am not mistaking it is just the 8 port xmr version which I don't think is out yet.

"The NI-MLX-10x8G modules supports VLAN counters on the ingress and
egress ports."

You have to configure this, apparently

NetIron(config)#statistics
NetIron(config-statistics)#extended-counters priority all
NetIron(config-statistics)#extended-counters routed-switched

(the middle line is enabled by default) and then you can do "sh vlan N
stat" and "sh ip int ve N stat". Nothing about SNMP in that chapter
of the easily findable but humongous NetIron 5.1.00 Configuration Guide.

-- Niels.

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Mar 29, 2011, 5:12 PM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

Hi,

did you also try the 64 bit Counter MIBs ?
32bit counters on a 10G port could be a overrun each 3-4 seconds, that's
not so suitability for daily use.
I cannot test myself because we use MLX and XMR only, no MLXe.

regards
Rolf

> I have the 8 x 10Gbe card and am getting traffic stats of 0 for the
> VE. What am I doing wrong?
>
> From show mod: SL 1: NI-MLX-10Gx8-M 8-port 10GbE
>
> Grab the ifIndex
> # snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifdescr | grep v116
> IF-MIB::ifDescr.16777332 = STRING: v116
>
> Try to grab in counters for the ifIndex
> # snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifInOctets.16777332
> IF-MIB::ifInOctets.16777332 = Counter32: 0
>
> Try to grab out counters for the ifIndex
> # snmpwalk -v2c -c .... ifOutOctets.16777332
> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.16777332 = Counter32: 0
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Brendan Mannella <bmannella [at] gmail>
> wrote:
>> I have the MLXe with the 24 port x card. I can confirm still no
>> counters. Just the 8 port 10g card.
>>
>> Brendan Mannella
>> TeraSwitch Networks Inc.
>> Office: 412.224.4333 x303
>> Mobile: 412.592.7848
>> Efax: 412.202.7094
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Brad Fleming <bdflemin [at] gmail> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have an MLXe you could buy the 8x10G Cards, they will have that
>>>> feature.
>>>
>>> I believe the new 24x1Gbps card also has these counters(?). I don't
>>> have one to confirm though.
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niels=foundry-nsp at bakker

Mar 29, 2011, 5:34 PM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

* nsp [at] rhanssen ("Rolf Hanßen") [Wed 30 Mar 2011, 02:13 CEST]:
>I cannot test myself because we use MLX and XMR only, no MLXe.

You don't need MLXe for the 8x10 blade, hSFMs are enough.

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jmadrid2 at gmail

Mar 29, 2011, 5:41 PM

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Re: VE usage stats via SNMP [In reply to]

Niels,

Your commands in fact fixed my issue and I am now receiving stats. Thank you very much for the assistance.

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* nsp [at] rhanssen ("Rolf Hanßen") [Wed 30 Mar 2011, 02:13 CEST]:
>I cannot test myself because we use MLX and XMR only, no MLXe.

You don't need MLXe for the 8x10 blade, hSFMs are enough.

-- Niels.

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