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fcocquyt at stanford

Jan 31, 2012, 4:23 PM

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Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?

thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours show up in netapp auto support as fw.38

You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or AT-FC2-based disk shelves. ??
Client services might encounter delays accessing data when disk shelf firmware is updated to AT-
FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented services must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.
For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:

> Sort of. Use
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205
>
> instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config without messing with the IP address.
>
> Is your hostname added to the interface twice as “`hostname`-na03-vif0-205” in the ifconfig makes it look? With that statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named na03-na03-vif0-205.
>
> Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so you’ll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade, otherwise OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It’ll still honor the vif command however.
>
> From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
> To: Chris Muellner
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on the rc files, but not the running config.
> Is it safe/recommended to reissue the
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192 partner na04-vif0-205 up
>
> to update the partner in the running config?
>
> Or is there a better method?
>
> thanks
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
>
>
> Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x interfaces, but the tool is saying you’ll have an issue with this VIF here: NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
>
> Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.
>
> From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
> To: SW
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> Thanks for the feedback Steve,
>
> I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:
> Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums said they are bogus
>
> ./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04
> == NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
> OK
>
> Checking Data ONTAP versions...
>
> OK
>
> Checking licenses...
>
> OK
>
> Checking HA configuration identity...
>
> OK
>
> Checking cf status...
>
> OK
>
> Checking fcp cfmode settings...
>
> fcp: FCP is not licensed.
> N/A
>
> Checking options...
>
> OK
>
> Checking network configuration...
>
> c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
>
>
>
>
> Checking network config in /etc/rc
>
> NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
> HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun this script.
> Done.
>
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Fletcher,
>
> I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I thought I’d share what I can...
>
> According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:
>
>
> From page 15:
> “Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode release family are supported
> from the following releases:
> • Any 8.0.x release
> • 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases”
>
> Good luck!
> Steve
> <upgrade.pdf>

Andrew.Werchowiecki at xpanse

Jan 31, 2012, 5:43 PM

Post #2 of 8 (988 views)
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RE: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX? [In reply to]

They will lose connectivity for, in my experience, at least 40 seconds
during a firmware upgrade.

From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty
[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 8:24 AM
To: Chris Muellner
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?

thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the
AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours
show up in netapp auto support as fw.38

* You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or
AT-FC2-based disk shelves. ??
Client services might encounter delays accessing data
when disk shelf firmware is updated to AT-

FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented
services must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.

For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:

Sort of. Use

ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205

instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config
without messing with the IP address.

Is your hostname added to the interface twice as
"`hostname`-na03-vif0-205" in the ifconfig makes it look? With that
statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named
na03-na03-vif0-205.

Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so
you'll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade,
otherwise OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It'll still honor
the vif command however.

From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
To: Chris Muellner
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?

I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on
the rc files, but not the running config.

Is it safe/recommended to reissue the

ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192
partner na04-vif0-205 up

to update the partner in the running config?

Or is there a better method?

thanks

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:

Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x
interfaces, but the tool is saying you'll have an issue with this VIF
here: NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc

Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that
interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.

From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty
[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
To: SW
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?

Thanks for the feedback Steve,

I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:

Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums
said they are bogus

./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04

== NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==

Checking ssh logins ...

Checking ssh logins ...

OK

Checking Data ONTAP versions...

OK

Checking licenses...

OK

Checking HA configuration identity...

OK

Checking cf status...

OK

Checking fcp cfmode settings...

fcp: FCP is not licensed.

N/A

Checking options...

OK

Checking network configuration...

c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04

c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04

c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03

c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03

na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03

Checking network config in /etc/rc

NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc

HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun
this script.

Done.

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:

Hi Fletcher,

I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I
thought I'd share what I can...

According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a
NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:

>From page 15:

"Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode
release family are supported

from the following releases:

* Any 8.0.x release

* 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases"

Good luck!

Steve

<upgrade.pdf>

fcocquyt at stanford

Jan 31, 2012, 5:50 PM

Post #3 of 8 (983 views)
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Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX? [In reply to]

http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/shelffwdnld.cgi/download/tools/diskshelf/bin/ESH4.1400.SFW states

"The AT-FCX I/O module can be upgraded nondisruptively if the storage system meets either of these two configuration requirements:"

we have FW38, but what is CPLD v.24 - and how do I query my current rev?

thanks

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Andrew Werchowiecki wrote:

> They will lose connectivity for, in my experience, at least 40 seconds during a firmware upgrade.
>
> From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 8:24 AM
> To: Chris Muellner
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?
>
> thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours show up in netapp auto support as fw.38
>
> You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or AT-FC2-based disk shelves. ??
> Client services might encounter delays accessing data when disk shelf firmware is updated to AT-
> FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented services must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.
> For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.
>
>
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
>
>
> Sort of. Use
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205
>
> instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config without messing with the IP address.
>
> Is your hostname added to the interface twice as “`hostname`-na03-vif0-205” in the ifconfig makes it look? With that statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named na03-na03-vif0-205.
>
> Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so you’ll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade, otherwise OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It’ll still honor the vif command however.
>
> From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
> To: Chris Muellner
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on the rc files, but not the running config.
> Is it safe/recommended to reissue the
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192 partner na04-vif0-205 up
>
> to update the partner in the running config?
>
> Or is there a better method?
>
> thanks
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
>
>
>
> Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x interfaces, but the tool is saying you’ll have an issue with this VIF here: NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
>
> Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.
>
> From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
> To: SW
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> Thanks for the feedback Steve,
>
> I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:
> Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums said they are bogus
>
> ./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04
> == NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
> OK
>
> Checking Data ONTAP versions...
>
> OK
>
> Checking licenses...
>
> OK
>
> Checking HA configuration identity...
>
> OK
>
> Checking cf status...
>
> OK
>
> Checking fcp cfmode settings...
>
> fcp: FCP is not licensed.
> N/A
>
> Checking options...
>
> OK
>
> Checking network configuration...
>
> c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
>
>
>
>
> Checking network config in /etc/rc
>
> NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
> HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun this script.
> Done.
>
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Fletcher,
>
> I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I thought I’d share what I can...
>
> According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:
>
>
> From page 15:
> “Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode release family are supported
> from the following releases:
> • Any 8.0.x release
> • 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases”
>
> Good luck!
> Steve
> <upgrade.pdf>

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andrey.borzenkov at ts

Jan 31, 2012, 6:59 PM

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RE: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX? [In reply to]

AT-FCX FW update is non-disruptive if you update *from* v38 onward :) (there are some additional requirements). So if you would need to update *to* v38, it will be disruptive.

________________________________________
From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt [fcocquyt [at] stanford]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 04:23
To: Chris Muellner
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?

thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours show up in netapp auto support as fw.38

* You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or AT-FC2-based disk shelves. ??
Client services might encounter delays accessing data when disk shelf firmware is updated to AT-

FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented services must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.
For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:

Sort of. Use

ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205

instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config without messing with the IP address.

Is your hostname added to the interface twice as “`hostname`-na03-vif0-205” in the ifconfig makes it look? With that statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named na03-na03-vif0-205.

Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so you’ll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade, otherwise OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It’ll still honor the vif command however.

From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
To: Chris Muellner
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?

I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on the rc files, but not the running config.
Is it safe/recommended to reissue the

ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192 partner na04-vif0-205 up

to update the partner in the running config?

Or is there a better method?

thanks
--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:

Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x interfaces, but the tool is saying you’ll have an issue with this VIF here: NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc

Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.

From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty> [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]<mailto:[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]> On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
To: SW
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?

Thanks for the feedback Steve,

I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:
Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums said they are bogus

./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04
== NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==

Checking ssh logins ...

Checking ssh logins ...

OK

Checking Data ONTAP versions...

OK

Checking licenses...

OK

Checking HA configuration identity...

OK

Checking cf status...

OK

Checking fcp cfmode settings...

fcp: FCP is not licensed.
N/A

Checking options...

OK

Checking network configuration...

c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03

Checking network config in /etc/rc

NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun this script.
Done.

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:

Hi Fletcher,

I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I thought I’d share what I can...

According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:

>From page 15:
“Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode release family are supported
from the following releases:
• Any 8.0.x release
• 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases”

Good luck!
Steve
<upgrade.pdf>

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sklise at hotmail

Jan 31, 2012, 8:33 PM

Post #5 of 8 (983 views)
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RE: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX? [In reply to]

also always best to update the firmware on the disks if it hasn't already been mentioned. This happens in the background, or you can do manually if you want. I was a wussy and did them manually as it states in BOLD could be disruptive on the firmware download page. I downloaded the whole zip or rar file and dumped in the proper location.. Its small and dosent take up much space... Should be ok..

Going straight to 8.1.. your a brave man.. Thanks for paving way@@!! flush those bugs out!!

> From: andrey.borzenkov [at] ts
> To: fcocquyt [at] stanford; chris [at] northlandusa
> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 03:59:13 +0100
> Subject: RE: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?
> CC: toasters [at] teaparty
>
> AT-FCX FW update is non-disruptive if you update *from* v38 onward :) (there are some additional requirements). So if you would need to update *to* v38, it will be disruptive.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt [fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 04:23
> To: Chris Muellner
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?
>
> thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours show up in netapp auto support as fw.38
>
>
> * You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or AT-FC2-based disk shelves. ??
> Client services might encounter delays accessing data when disk shelf firmware is updated to AT-
>
> FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented services must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.
> For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.
>
>
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
>
> Sort of. Use
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205
>
> instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config without messing with the IP address.
>
> Is your hostname added to the interface twice as “`hostname`-na03-vif0-205” in the ifconfig makes it look? With that statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named na03-na03-vif0-205.
>
> Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so you’ll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade, otherwise OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It’ll still honor the vif command however.
>
> From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
> To: Chris Muellner
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on the rc files, but not the running config.
> Is it safe/recommended to reissue the
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192 partner na04-vif0-205 up
>
> to update the partner in the running config?
>
> Or is there a better method?
>
> thanks
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
>
>
> Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x interfaces, but the tool is saying you’ll have an issue with this VIF here: NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
>
> Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.
>
> From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty> [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]<mailto:[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]> On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
> To: SW
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> Thanks for the feedback Steve,
>
> I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:
> Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums said they are bogus
>
> ./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04
> == NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
> OK
>
> Checking Data ONTAP versions...
>
> OK
>
> Checking licenses...
>
> OK
>
> Checking HA configuration identity...
>
> OK
>
> Checking cf status...
>
> OK
>
> Checking fcp cfmode settings...
>
> fcp: FCP is not licensed.
> N/A
>
> Checking options...
>
> OK
>
> Checking network configuration...
>
> c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
>
>
>
>
> Checking network config in /etc/rc
>
> NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
> HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun this script.
> Done.
>
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Fletcher,
>
> I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I thought I’d share what I can...
>
> According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:
>
>
> >From page 15:
> “Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode release family are supported
> from the following releases:
> • Any 8.0.x release
> • 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases”
>
> Good luck!
> Steve
> <upgrade.pdf>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Toasters mailing list
> Toasters [at] teaparty
> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters

andrey.borzenkov at ts

Feb 1, 2012, 5:31 AM

Post #6 of 8 (1013 views)
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RE: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX? [In reply to]

OK, it was FW37 which introduced it; I had feeling FW38 was not correct :)

In this case this is the latest version.

---
With best regards

Andrey Borzenkov
Senior system engineer
Service operations

From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:51 AM
To: Andrew Werchowiecki
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?

http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/shelffwdnld.cgi/download/tools/diskshelf/bin/ESH4.1400.SFW states

"The AT-FCX I/O module can be upgraded nondisruptively if the storage system meets either of these two configuration requirements:"

we have FW38, but what is CPLD v.24 - and how do I query my current rev?

[cid:image001.png [at] 01CCE107]

thanks

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Andrew Werchowiecki wrote:

They will lose connectivity for, in my experience, at least 40 seconds during a firmware upgrade.

From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty> [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 8:24 AM
To: Chris Muellner
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?

thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours show up in netapp auto support as fw.38

* You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or AT-FC2-based disk shelves. ??
Client services might encounter delays accessing data when disk shelf firmware is updated to AT-
FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented services must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.
For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:

Sort of. Use

ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205

instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config without messing with the IP address.

Is your hostname added to the interface twice as “`hostname`-na03-vif0-205” in the ifconfig makes it look? With that statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named na03-na03-vif0-205.

Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so you’ll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade, otherwise OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It’ll still honor the vif command however.

From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]<mailto:[mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
To: Chris Muellner
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?

I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on the rc files, but not the running config.
Is it safe/recommended to reissue the

ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192 partner na04-vif0-205 up

to update the partner in the running config?

Or is there a better method?

thanks
--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:

Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x interfaces, but the tool is saying you’ll have an issue with this VIF here: NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc

Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.

From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty> [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]<mailto:[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]> On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
To: SW
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?

Thanks for the feedback Steve,

I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:
Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums said they are bogus

./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04
== NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==

Checking ssh logins ...

Checking ssh logins ...

OK

Checking Data ONTAP versions...

OK

Checking licenses...

OK

Checking HA configuration identity...

OK

Checking cf status...

OK

Checking fcp cfmode settings...

fcp: FCP is not licensed.
N/A

Checking options...

OK

Checking network configuration...

c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03

Checking network config in /etc/rc

NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun this script.
Done.

--
Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:

Hi Fletcher,

I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I thought I’d share what I can...

According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:

>From page 15:
“Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode release family are supported
from the following releases:
• Any 8.0.x release
• 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases”

Good luck!
Steve
<upgrade.pdf>

Attachments:

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fcocquyt at stanford

Feb 8, 2012, 11:05 AM

Post #7 of 8 (946 views)
Permalink

Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 completed [In reply to]

We completed the NDU upgrade last night without incident (100s of running VMs including Oracle did not log any issues)

Many thanks to those who provided feedback - with 8.1RC2 are enjoying VAAI in our vmware env and having data motion back.
I will write up some of the doc discrepancies / issues I found with the planning of the NDU

thanks

Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:33 PM, steve klise wrote:

> also always best to update the firmware on the disks if it hasn't already been mentioned. This happens in the background, or you can do manually if you want. I was a wussy and did them manually as it states in BOLD could be disruptive on the firmware download page. I downloaded the whole zip or rar file and dumped in the proper location.. Its small and dosent take up much space... Should be ok..
>
> Going straight to 8.1.. your a brave man.. Thanks for paving way@@!! flush those bugs out!!
>
>
>
> > From: andrey.borzenkov [at] ts
> > To: fcocquyt [at] stanford; chris [at] northlandusa
> > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 03:59:13 +0100
> > Subject: RE: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?
> > CC: toasters [at] teaparty
> >
> > AT-FCX FW update is non-disruptive if you update *from* v38 onward :) (there are some additional requirements). So if you would need to update *to* v38, it will be disruptive.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt [fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 04:23
> > To: Chris Muellner
> > Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> > Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?
> >
> > thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours show up in netapp auto support as fw.38
> >
> >
> > * You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or AT-FC2-based disk shelves. ??
> > Client services might encounter delays accessing data when disk shelf firmware is updated to AT-
> >
> > FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented services must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.
> > For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fletcher
> >
> >
> > On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
> >
> > Sort of. Use
> >
> > ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205
> >
> > instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config without messing with the IP address.
> >
> > Is your hostname added to the interface twice as “`hostname`-na03-vif0-205” in the ifconfig makes it look? With that statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named na03-na03-vif0-205.
> >
> > Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so you’ll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade, otherwise OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It’ll still honor the vif command however.
> >
> > From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
> > To: Chris Muellner
> > Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
> > Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
> >
> > I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on the rc files, but not the running config.
> > Is it safe/recommended to reissue the
> >
> > ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192 partner na04-vif0-205 up
> >
> > to update the partner in the running config?
> >
> > Or is there a better method?
> >
> > thanks
> > --
> > Fletcher
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
> >
> >
> > Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x interfaces, but the tool is saying you’ll have an issue with this VIF here: NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
> >
> > Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.
> >
> > From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty> [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]<mailto:[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]> On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
> > To: SW
> > Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
> > Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback Steve,
> >
> > I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:
> > Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums said they are bogus
> >
> > ./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04
> > == NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==
> >
> >
> > Checking ssh logins ...
> >
> >
> > Checking ssh logins ...
> >
> > OK
> >
> > Checking Data ONTAP versions...
> >
> > OK
> >
> > Checking licenses...
> >
> > OK
> >
> > Checking HA configuration identity...
> >
> > OK
> >
> > Checking cf status...
> >
> > OK
> >
> > Checking fcp cfmode settings...
> >
> > fcp: FCP is not licensed.
> > N/A
> >
> > Checking options...
> >
> > OK
> >
> > Checking network configuration...
> >
> > c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> > c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> > c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> > c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> > na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Checking network config in /etc/rc
> >
> > NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
> > HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun this script.
> > Done.
> >
> > --
> > Fletcher
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Fletcher,
> >
> > I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I thought I’d share what I can...
> >
> > According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:
> >
> >
> > >From page 15:
> > “Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode release family are supported
> > from the following releases:
> > • Any 8.0.x release
> > • 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases”
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Steve
> > <upgrade.pdf>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Toasters mailing list
> > Toasters [at] teaparty
> > http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters

sknauf at chipxonio

Feb 9, 2012, 1:33 AM

Post #8 of 8 (966 views)
Permalink

AW: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 completed [In reply to]

Hi,

we'll use VAAI, too (especially for cloning). I'm not sure, but i read that
VAAI works with Ontap 8.01, so there is no reason for me to update to 8.1
(excepting Support for LTO4/5). It would be great if you report some 8.1
Bugs on the toaster list.

Thanks and greets

Steffen

Von: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] Im
Auftrag von Fletcher Cocquyt
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Februar 2012 20:06
An: steve klise
Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
Betreff: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 completed

We completed the NDU upgrade last night without incident (100s of running
VMs including Oracle did not log any issues)

Many thanks to those who provided feedback - with 8.1RC2 are enjoying VAAI
in our vmware env and having data motion back.

I will write up some of the doc discrepancies / issues I found with the
planning of the NDU

thanks

Fletcher

On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:33 PM, steve klise wrote:

also always best to update the firmware on the disks if it hasn't already
been mentioned. This happens in the background, or you can do manually if
you want. I was a wussy and did them manually as it states in BOLD could be
disruptive on the firmware download page. I downloaded the whole zip or rar
file and dumped in the proper location.. Its small and dosent take up much
space... Should be ok..

Going straight to 8.1.. your a brave man.. Thanks for paving way@@!! flush
those bugs out!!

> From: andrey.borzenkov [at] ts
> To: fcocquyt [at] stanford; chris [at] northlandusa
> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 03:59:13 +0100
> Subject: RE: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?
> CC: toasters [at] teaparty
>
> AT-FCX FW update is non-disruptive if you update *from* v38 onward :)
(there are some additional requirements). So if you would need to update
*to* v38, it will be disruptive.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty [toasters-bounces [at] teaparty] On
Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt [fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 04:23
> To: Chris Muellner
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 with AT-FCX?
>
> thanks - I'm reviewing the 8.1 (RC Aug 2011) upgrade guide - will the
AT-FCX we have present a disruption to our NDU to 8.1RC2 plan? - ours show
up in netapp auto support as fw.38
>
>
> * You need to update firmware for AT-FC-based or AT-FC2-based disk
shelves. ??
> Client services might encounter delays accessing data when disk shelf
firmware is updated to AT-
>
> FC or AT-FC2 modules. To prevent data loss, all session-oriented services
must be terminated before you begin an update procedure.
> For these conditions, disruptive upgrades are recommended.
>
>
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
>
> Sort of. Use
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 partner na04-vif0-205
>
> instead. That will add the partner interface to the running config without
messing with the IP address.
>
> Is your hostname added to the interface twice as
"`hostname`-na03-vif0-205" in the ifconfig makes it look? With that
statement the host file would have an entry for an interface named
na03-na03-vif0-205.
>
> Also, note that in 8.x that vif has been deprecated to ifgrp instead so
you'll want to update your rc files accordingly after the upgrade, otherwise
OnTap will complain about it when it boots. It'll still honor the vif
command however.
>
> From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt [at] stanford]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:03 PM
> To: Chris Muellner
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> I found and corrected the typo in the rc file - now the check passes on
the rc files, but not the running config.
> Is it safe/recommended to reissue the
>
> ifconfig na03-vif0-205 `hostname`-na03-vif0-205 netmask 255.255.255.192
partner na04-vif0-205 up
>
> to update the partner in the running config?
>
> Or is there a better method?
>
> thanks
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chris Muellner wrote:
>
>
> Verify the RC files on both controllers. You can ignore the c0x
interfaces, but the tool is saying you'll have an issue with this VIF here:
NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
>
> Make sure the ifconfig statement in both controllers RC files for that
interface have the partner interface specified in the statement.
>
> From: toasters-bounces [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty>
[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teaparty]<mailto:[mailto:toasters-bounces [at] teap
rty.net]> On Behalf Of Fletcher Cocquyt
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01 PM
> To: SW
> Cc: toasters [at] teaparty<mailto:toasters [at] teaparty>
> Subject: Re: NDU from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 supported?
>
> Thanks for the feedback Steve,
>
> I'm also running the netapp tool to check HA prior to failover:
> Are these partner network errors valid? Someone in the community forums
said they are bogus
>
> ./ha-config-check.cgi -s na03 na04
> == NetApp HA Configuration Checker v2.0.0 ==
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
>
> Checking ssh logins ...
>
> OK
>
> Checking Data ONTAP versions...
>
> OK
>
> Checking licenses...
>
> OK
>
> Checking HA configuration identity...
>
> OK
>
> Checking cf status...
>
> OK
>
> Checking fcp cfmode settings...
>
> fcp: FCP is not licensed.
> N/A
>
> Checking options...
>
> OK
>
> Checking network configuration...
>
> c0a (192.168.1.152) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0b (192.168.2.173) on na03 does not have a partner on na04
> c0a (192.168.1.84) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> c0b (192.168.2.95) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
> na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.11) on na04 does not have a partner on na03
>
>
>
>
> Checking network config in /etc/rc
>
> NO PARTNER FOR na04-vif0-205 (17.25.104.23) ON na04 in /etc/rc
> HA configuration issue(s) found above. Please correct them and rerun this
script.
> Done.
>
> --
> Fletcher
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:29 AM, SW wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Fletcher,
>
> I only have a subset of answers relating to your Toasters inquiry, but I
thought I'd share what I can...
>
> According to the upgrade guide for 8.1RC2 (attached to this e-mail), a NDU
from 7.3.5.1P3 to 8.1RC2 is supported:
>
>
> >From page 15:
> "Nondisruptive upgrades to releases in the Data ONTAP 8.1 7-Mode release
family are supported
> from the following releases:
> . Any 8.0.x release
> . 7.3.2 and later 7.3.x releases"
>
> Good luck!
> Steve
> <upgrade.pdf>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Toasters mailing list
> Toasters [at] teaparty
> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters

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