Mailing List Archive by Gossamer Threads http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/ en-us (c) Gossamer Threads Inc. All rights reserved. 13 Feb 2012 03:50:11 -0800 120 75 23 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/images/lists/rss_logo.jpg On Feb 6, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing@gmail.com> wrote: > IMHO, that means that in the much smaller cards, going ONE way or the o 11 Feb 2012 11:24:18 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11834 aggr status -r or aggr status -s if the disks are still showing in the spares pool. On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Klise, Steve <klises@sutterhealt 10 Feb 2012 15:16:37 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11832 Hi All, This is neto from Brazil How are you? Please use sysconfig -r All the best neto NetApp - I love this company! On Feb 10, 2012, at 6:04 P 10 Feb 2012 15:09:16 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11833 Disks need to be cleared if they were not zero'ed. Look at your disks (don't have the command handy) or look in filer view and I bet some are zero'ing 10 Feb 2012 14:51:23 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11831 Is there a way to track the progress (% complete?) for aggr creation/initialization? aggr status Aggr State Status Op 10 Feb 2012 14:38:19 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11830 The snapshot process must have completed - I was able to offline by waiting a few minutes thanks Fletcher On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Parisi, Jus 10 Feb 2012 14:35:54 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11829 Hi I'm attempting to offline all the volumes on this 64bit aggr so I can destroy and re-create as 32 bit (so 32->32 bit data motion is supported) I 10 Feb 2012 13:57:06 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11828 > Day2 after the 8.1RC2 upgrade - > All quiet on the (disabled) dedup front - will need to engage the lead engineers on this one since we like the ded 10 Feb 2012 04:49:25 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11827 Day2 after the 8.1RC2 upgrade - All quiet on the (disabled) dedup front - will need to engage the lead engineers on this one since we like the dedup s 09 Feb 2012 23:41:38 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11826 Ya. Just a bad block or something. Pam is not your primary block home anyways. Not worth downtime. . On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:04 AM, "Klise, Ste 09 Feb 2012 10:48:10 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11825 How do I find out what's causing these messages and what the severity is? With large chunks taken out: Server rpc: TCP: calls badcalls nullr 09 Feb 2012 10:29:51 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11824 Just thought I would put this out there.. Couple days ago, started seeing these errors in my message file.. Opened the case with support, and they s 09 Feb 2012 10:04:08 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11823 Id grab a lot more data, than CPU use...which indicates very little on it's own. I agree you had a problem, but CPU % wasn't the cause. Say hi to Vi 09 Feb 2012 09:49:51 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11822 Last night (first since the upgrade from 7.3.5.1P2 to 8.1RC2) we experienced much higher load on our 3270 cluster and some VM timeouts coinciding with 09 Feb 2012 09:40:18 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11821 There is a way... But not supported.. :-) The only supported way is by adding disks... Commands below were executed in diag mode (priv set diag) on 09 Feb 2012 08:58:32 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11820 Thnk you all for your answers. They are all very helpfull The problem i am facing occurs from the time the one node falls and the surving node starts 09 Feb 2012 05:40:24 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11819 Hi Tim, you're the man of the week ;) It's a shame, but i forgot to check this. Thanks for your help! greets Steffen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht 09 Feb 2012 01:36:23 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11817 Hi, we'll use VAAI, too (especially for cloning). I'm not sure, but i read that VAAI works with Ontap 8.01, so there is no reason for me to update 09 Feb 2012 01:33:07 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11818 That would work...or if a non-guaranteed migration is ok you can also just run vfiler migrate from the command line of the target system. When the mir 08 Feb 2012 23:10:48 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11815 Correct.. between 2 nodes in the same cluster. -----Original Message----- From: Borzenkov, Andrey [mailto:andrey.borzenkov@ts.fujitsu.com] Sent: Wed 08 Feb 2012 23:09:32 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11816 This just occurred to me - a plan forward to allow data motion and migration to 64 bit I will test it asap, but basically its this since vfiler mig 08 Feb 2012 19:33:07 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11814 As of now there is no known method to do it. ________________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [toasters-bounces@teaparty.n 08 Feb 2012 19:24:31 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11813 "does not work between cluster pairs" - you mean "between heads in cluster pair"? May be these are subtleties of English language that non-native spea 08 Feb 2012 19:02:20 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11812 Anyone know if its possible to force the in place 32->64bit aggr non-disruptive migration without having to add disk? I'm running into a 8.1R2 data m 08 Feb 2012 15:37:35 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11811 Really good discussion here. You are using the -m nocopy method which is a method with disk reassign. This does not work from NMC. NMC is data moti 08 Feb 2012 11:59:27 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11810 I've been working via the CLI, good to know the NMC will give better options. From: Fletcher Cocquyt [mailto:fcocquyt@stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesd 08 Feb 2012 11:11:42 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11809 Been away from this issue for a little while. Took a look at "stats list counters nfsv3" and "stats show nfsv3." Looks like exactly what I'm looking 08 Feb 2012 11:06:39 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11807 We completed the NDU upgrade last night without incident (100s of running VMs including Oracle did not log any issues) Many thanks to those who provi 08 Feb 2012 11:05:51 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11808 Hi Randy, Are you managing vfiler migrations the NMC or are you initiating via command line 'vfiler migrate'? In my experience the NMC is more robust 08 Feb 2012 10:55:40 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11806 vfiler migrate: overview and thoughts When I first read there was a way to move a vFiler from one node of a NetApp cluster to another I was excited. 08 Feb 2012 10:26:57 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11805 I've used Flexshare in two ways, with success.  First, I use it the way Rich does, to reduce the priority of volumes on high latency backend (in my ca 08 Feb 2012 10:07:24 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11804 tr-3459 gives some background why this is recommended and effects of enabling priority controls for one volume only. _________________________________ 08 Feb 2012 08:20:51 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11803 We've had some positive results, but I wouldn't call them extreme. The flexshare scheduler only kicks in if the system runs out of resources (CPU etc. 08 Feb 2012 06:15:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11801 I had an SE say the same thing and stayed away from it also for same reason - we have an older filer that gets pounded in evenings and was wondering i 08 Feb 2012 06:12:48 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11800 I am interested in this too, from the docs really it looks like the prioritization is mostly handled by queuing on the CPU. Is the overhead associat 08 Feb 2012 06:12:17 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11802 Hi Jack, I have done some small testing with it, but I shied away from implementing it when a NetApp instructor said that to get the best results you 08 Feb 2012 06:06:21 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11799 Has anyone used FlexShare and had extremely positive results. IT seems that the improvement would be minor and misconfiguration could lead to no im 08 Feb 2012 04:20:59 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11798 Sounds like a bug...did support find an issue and file a burt? The vfiler itself keeps the configuration of shares in /etc like a physical controller 07 Feb 2012 21:15:59 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11797 Some progress. I added a CIFS share to the vFiler's root volume at the host node level and can see things like the cirs share config file and exports 07 Feb 2012 12:38:17 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11796 A co-worker of mine already posted on this but we're coming up with more questions. We successfully tested the migration of a test vFiler from one no 07 Feb 2012 12:14:04 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11795 If you have different caching requirements for different volumes, you are better off using flexshare than changing mode globally. In this case setting 06 Feb 2012 19:18:42 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11794 Are your filers configured to send weekly performance stats? If yes,content of autosupport E-Mail is kept under /etc/log/autosupport for some time an 06 Feb 2012 19:08:10 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11793 IMHO, that means that in the much smaller cards, going ONE way or the other was kinda the way to go, but with much larger cards, there should be plent 06 Feb 2012 16:10:19 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11792 Hello, We a V3170 cluster with a 512GB Flash Cache module installed in each controller. Each module is currently configured to cache normal data (d 06 Feb 2012 15:47:09 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11791 There is no guarantee on the time to move (for that you need to use Data Motion for vFilers with Protection Manager which uses snapmirror and not betw 06 Feb 2012 13:54:36 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11790 Hi Scott, Thank you for the pointer. I checked volumes in the vfiler and they are all in the same aggregate. Can you tell me how long snapmover no 06 Feb 2012 13:49:04 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11789 Greetings, Has anyone upgraded from any version of 7.3.3 to a 7.3.5 variant seen any behavioral differences? I also upgraded diagnostics from 5.5 to 06 Feb 2012 13:28:57 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11788 The key requirement is that the vFiler owns ALL volumes in the aggregate that will be reassigned. If there is a volume from any other vFiler in that a 06 Feb 2012 12:10:38 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11787 Dear list, We have an active-active cluster with vfilers. One vfiler in node-1 is having performance issues. Since node-1's CPU usage is much high 06 Feb 2012 11:24:44 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11786 This will solve the problem you're having in about 95% of cases. Spanning-Tree can technically takes it's sweet time to allow the port to negotiate an 06 Feb 2012 07:56:25 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11785 Check your network switches. You probably need to turn off SPANNING TREE. On a cisco, that could be: spanning-tree portfast enable (for a switch port) 06 Feb 2012 05:11:08 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11784 Hello John, IIRC, the failover time can be up to 120 seconds which is why your connected systems need to have the correct disk and read timeout va 06 Feb 2012 03:03:29 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11783 Hi John, we have a FAS3240, too and the same behavior. I opened a Netapp Case (Case ID: 2002377504): " During failover the IP address will be 06 Feb 2012 03:01:19 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11782 Hello everybody I have a Fas3204 HA in two seperate chassis , dataontap version 8.02P3 7mode. Many NFS servers are connected to it via iscsi connectio 06 Feb 2012 02:21:03 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11781 Ray, For me the best thing is to keep the volume names descriptive of what will be in them and also keep them unique within the environment. Having a 04 Feb 2012 08:21:49 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11780 My company is running EBS on dNFS (NetApp) however we are using IBM equipment. Regards, Dan Sent from my iPhone, please excuse typos. On F 03 Feb 2012 17:15:35 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11779 Hello; Curious what type of volume naming conventions you all have found work best? We're about to expand our environment, and looking for ideas on 03 Feb 2012 16:43:16 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11778 I've asked my SE to check into this thanks -- Fletcher On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Yee, Steven wrote: > giveback will probably flag a bunch of 03 Feb 2012 16:26:37 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11777 giveback will probably flag a bunch of mismatches since a lot more "always on" licenses will appear. its better to pre-flight the new packaging for y 03 Feb 2012 16:09:54 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11776 Hi Steven - thanks for the link - yes, I can get to it sound like I should add a license command prior to giveback to verify all the features I need a 03 Feb 2012 15:49:23 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11775 WIll I run into any license issues during this NDU? Hate to be trying to get a license code at 3am… The ones that are critical are NFS, Multistore an 03 Feb 2012 15:04:42 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11774 Is anyone on this list running Oracle E-Business Suite specifically on a Cisco UCS / Netapp platform utilizing DirectNFS? Thanks in advance. C 03 Feb 2012 11:29:32 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11773 That is meant to scare those individuals who have placed non-NetApp disks into their systems. The OS looks at its' built in qualification table plus 03 Feb 2012 02:04:46 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11772 Jack - thanks for the feedback - Netapp support said it was more about ownership vs Multi-pathing and said to copy the firmware to both nodes /etc/di 02 Feb 2012 23:03:15 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11771 If disks are available to both heads - the second head doesn't need to update any firmware. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Me 02 Feb 2012 20:48:57 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11770 Use "sysconfig -v" or "storage show disk -x" to check current disk firmware. ________________________________________ From: Fletcher Cocquyt [fcocquyt 02 Feb 2012 19:30:47 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11768 Yes, you are absolutely right, but to quote OP: "confusing/ambiguous/hard to decipher" are all adjectives I'd use. "Reboot" is far too ambiguous in t 02 Feb 2012 19:26:17 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11769 >From a cifs perspective a give back is a reboot. -- We are the 99% "Borzenkov, Andrey" <andrey.borzenkov@ts.fujitsu.com> wrote: "cf giveback" by 02 Feb 2012 19:13:18 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11767 Andrey - yes "confusing/ambiguous/hard to decipher" are all adjectives I'd use. I find the Upgrade Advisor is much clearer, but it lacks the details f 02 Feb 2012 19:11:38 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11766 "cf giveback" by itself does not cause extra reboot. Statement is manuals is confusing. There could be multiple reboots of A indeed after "cf takeove 02 Feb 2012 18:45:34 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11765 Justin, thanks for the feedback What makes step 13 (cf giveback) triggering another reboot of the SAME node A is step 12 reads like that has already 02 Feb 2012 11:24:38 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11764 There are 2 reboots, but it looks like 4 to the clients: 1. takeover #1 b->a (looks like very fast reboot to clients) 2. Wait for b to come back, th 02 Feb 2012 11:21:20 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11763 Hi - can someone clarify this from pg 56 of the upgrade guide - for instance, if step 12 causes A to "reboot the system using the new firmware and s 02 Feb 2012 10:52:04 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11762 Thanks all. Now I am a little embarrassed, it never occurred to me that it was a separate environment than the interactive shell. Thanks! On 02/0 02 Feb 2012 06:05:33 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11761 This is normal because the statit command is a 'priv set diag' command. you should do something like "ssh <host> priv set advanced; statit -b". Mvg, 02 Feb 2012 06:01:59 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11759 Are you prefacing it with priv set advanced. Statit isn't a standard command - you have to be at a higher priv level. for our env using rsh ... 02 Feb 2012 06:00:29 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11760 You need to enable advanced mode; as in, ssh <host> 'priv set advanced; statit -b' Best regards, [Description: Description: C:\Program Files\Dassa 02 Feb 2012 05:56:52 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11758 You need to get into advanced mode to run statit. ssh HOST "priv set advanced; statit -b" From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-boun 02 Feb 2012 05:55:10 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11757 Does anyone know if there is a way to get statit to run from ssh/rsh & have the output redirected? For instance if I do /ssh <host> vol status /I ge 02 Feb 2012 05:35:29 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11756 I could not find information what exactly is measured on filer. I.e. does it show total time from receiving request on LAN port until response is sent 02 Feb 2012 02:39:05 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11755 On 2012-2-2 8:28 , Borzenkov, Andrey wrote: > I am not aware offhand of any other tool that would show NFS latency, unfortunately. There's "stats sho 02 Feb 2012 01:00:40 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11754 OK, that's confusing. Recent enough sysstat includes "nfsiostat" command as well, but it gives totally different statistic. "1 1" gives you single sa 01 Feb 2012 23:28:40 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11752 Disk upgrade is non-disruptive if all aggregates are RAID_DP. By default it starts as soon as you copy file with new firmware in place. For RAID4 you 01 Feb 2012 23:19:01 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11751 Use sysconfig -v to verify current firmware and "version -b" *after* download to check which versions are stored on boot device. --- With best regar 01 Feb 2012 23:17:06 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11750 I have downloaded the X410_HVIPC288A15 firmware - is this one truly non-disruptive? The online docs seem overly verbose - what is the short user test 01 Feb 2012 23:00:12 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11753 pg 55 - upgrade guide says to check for this warning and do an 'update_flash' manually - how do I tell AHEAD of time if I need to do this for my 7.3. 01 Feb 2012 22:48:15 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11749 I started with nfs-iostat.py, Realized that nfsiostat that ships with CentOS seems to be the same python script. Output is identical and if you diff t 01 Feb 2012 22:38:52 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11748 Hmm ... but nfsiostat does not really display latency, unless you have some customized version. You want nfs-iostat.py for it: http://communities.neta 01 Feb 2012 22:08:14 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11747 Good question. I'm trying to resolve the concerns of a customer that is having critical performance issues they believe to be the fault of the filer. 01 Feb 2012 20:56:28 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11746 Hmm...what reason would you expect the line latency to be _different_ from host to host, to the same filer? On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Randy 01 Feb 2012 20:51:21 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11745 I appreciate your feedback. I'm attempting to get some real-time view of current latency for NFS mounts, but have figured out that running nfsiostat 01 Feb 2012 20:30:58 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11744 You do not say how you process results nor how you run nfsiostat. nfsiostat (just like iostat, vmstat, ...) reports delta for measurement interval. T 01 Feb 2012 19:33:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11743 Just don't reboot... It's not recommended but doable. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Fletcher Cocquyt <fcocq 01 Feb 2012 16:24:34 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11742 I would maybe do it a few hours, not days. In the event of a panic, you run the risk of many issues of a new kernel trying to do something with an old 01 Feb 2012 16:07:35 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11741 from pg 54 of the NDU guide: Note: Activating Data ONTAP 8..x software images with the download process takes significantly longer than in earlier re 01 Feb 2012 15:27:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11740 Hello All, Trying to troubleshoot performance problems on our v3170. This is not specifically a NetApp question but if nothing else, the tool I'm usi 01 Feb 2012 14:33:31 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11739 A high loss of sync count could indicate a bad connection or failing component on the loop.. On 2/1/2012 1:48 PM, Stuart Kendrick wrote: > What does 01 Feb 2012 12:51:15 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11738 What does 'loss of sync' mean? toaster> fcstat link_stats Loop Link Transport Loss of Invalid Frame In Frame Out ID 01 Feb 2012 11:48:14 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11737 OK, it was FW37 which introduced it; I had feeling FW38 was not correct :) In this case this is the latest version. --- With best regards Andrey B 01 Feb 2012 05:31:47 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11736 Hi, we updated our Filer (FAS 3240) from 7.3.X to 8.02PX, with no Problems. 8.02P5 works fine, any reason for you to install 8.1RC2? I suggest to 01 Feb 2012 02:14:44 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/netapp/toasters/11734