owen at delong
Mar 24, 2012, 11:47 AM
Post #22 of 23
Right, but a better approach would have been for the FCC to say "If you don't
Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)
[In reply to]
build fiber, you won't keep getting USF money."
The FCC failed to look at the public interest and got rolled by the RBOCs again.
On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:
> Around the 2004 timeframe the RBOCs were having a discussion with the FCC,
> basically saying that if the FCC did not apply unbundling to their fiber
> builds they would build fiber, and that if the FCC did apply unbundling
> rules they would not. The FCC wanted fiber deployed, so they withheld
> applying unbundling rules.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysidia [at] gmail]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:47 PM
> To: John T. Yocum
> Cc: nanog [at] nanog
> Subject: Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:28 PM, John T. Yocum
> <john.yocum [at] fluidhosting> wrote:
>> VZ wants to get rid of their copper plant. It's expensive to maintain, and
> As opposed to fiber plant which is indestructible and cheap to maintain?
> Well, if VZ owns the copper, if it's not being used to provide a
> service, and the price of
> copper keeps going up, it's only a matter of time before VZ should
> want to take their bits of unused cable back. How useful is leaving
> a dormant loop in place just because someone might theoretically want
> it someday?
> Seems like a waste for VZ not to reclaim it so it can be recycled/put
> to good use.
>> it requires that they sell service to competitors. Once they've
>> their customers from it, they can just eliminate the copper plant. POTS
> You sure the regulations won't eventually be updated to apply some
> rules to whatever POTS is being replaced with? Possibly years
> before they could finish eliminating their copper plant, which
> doesn't likely happen until the pricing allows POTS customers to get FiOS
> delivery installed for free as a cheaper alternative to POTS delivery.