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brunner at nic-naa

Feb 8, 2010, 6:54 AM

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Adopt‐an‐Haitian‐Internet‐technician‐or‐facility

All,

Attached is a project description by Reynold Guerrier, Network
Engineer and Treasurer of the Association Haïtienne pour le
développement des technologies de l’Information et de la Communication
(AHTIC).

I know many have helped and many have offered to help, and kit and
people have been sent, and are continuing to be sent, however there is
an unmet need, the continuation of the "fuel, food, families" trio
that kept the Boutilliers NAP powered and its surviving technical team
intact. And the most effective aid is cash, which enables the
recipients to prioritize according to their needs, and the bulk
purchases of aid recipients proximal to them.

The budget and resources for this project is as follows:

o $100,000 for
 salaries 
to 
support
 technicians 
and 
their 
family

to 
get 
them
 back
on
track

o 5
 content 
production 
units

o Production
 software

o Management
 software


o 10 
data 
center 
in 
a 
box


The data centers in a box resource was identified by Reynold on the
19th, a week after the quake, when he wrote to NANOG:

> We would like to provide to the haitian government a UC systems
with several branches:
>
> o President office: 10 endpoints
> o Prime Minister office: 10 endpoints
> o 12 mayor city hall offices: 3 for each: 36 endpoints
> o Ministries (9 differents locations 3 for each): 27 endpoints
> o Communications Center: 20 endpoints
> o emergency Clusters: 14 ednpoints
>
> Total: 117 endpoints
>
> So if someone can provide recommendations, equipment, skilled
technician for that it would be fine.

There is wire transfer information in the attached pdf, and if anyone
finds that cumbersome drop me a note and we'll work something out.

Yes, there are a lot of aid dollars going to Haiti, but dollars given
to AHTIC will go specifically to re-build the network infrastructure
and keep the families of the surviving engineers and technicians fed
and their basic needs met.

Thanks in advance,
Eric


brunner at nic-naa

Feb 8, 2010, 9:29 AM

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Arg! The attachment died the death of "132485 bytes with a limit of
100 KB". Oh well, it could have been the line eater bug in a USENET post.

I posted an HTML version here:
http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vault/2010/02/005491.html

Cutting and Pasting (a high tech skill) yeilds:

Project Title: Adopt-an-Haitian-Internet-technician-or-facility

Project Description: The project aims to collect money and telecom
gear to provide mid-term financial aid to IT technicians that have
been affected with their families during the January 12, 2010
earthquake. Money, telecoms gears, time, software, etc will serve to
setup technology community centers to support schools, universities,
vocational centers that have collapsed.

Begin Date
February 2010

End Date
August 2010

The Context: On the January 12, 2010, Haiti one of the poorest country
in the world is hurt by a 7.3 Earthquake that caused major damage to
Port-au-Prince, Jacmel, Leogane and other settlements around. Many
notable landmark buildings were significantly damaged or destroyed,
including schools, universities, vocational schools even the
Port-au-Prince Cathedral, and the main jail. Among those killed are a
lot of technicians, students, teachers.

Many countries responded to appeals for humanitarian aid, pledging
funds and dispatching rescue and medical teams, engineers and support
personnel. Communication systems, air, land, and sea transport
facilities, hospitals, schools, universities, and electrical networks
had been damaged by the earthquake, which hampered rescue and aid
efforts; confusion over who was in charge, air traffic congestion, and
problems with prioritization of flights further complicated early
relief work. As rescues tailed off, supplies, medical care and
sanitation become priorities. Among them we also need to address
education on a mid term run. With a lot of destroyed schools and dead
teachers e-learning can be a good way to overcome this problem.

Deliverables and criteria for close-out

The projects has 2 majors deliverables:

1. Providing financial support to at least 50 technicians whose
houses have been destroyed during the seism. The idea is getting them
a job so they don’t have to worry about their family basic needs and
keeping them on their workplace
2. Setup mobile IT community centers to provide IT services to
schools and universities.
3. Contents production for e-learning

The project boundaries: This project aims to provide technical support
to teachers helping them putting their courses online or on DVD and
make it available for remote schools or schools whose teachers have
been killed during the quake. Data Center in a box will facilitate
access to those courses by the students. Project will be conducted in
joint venture with the Ministry of Education that will define the
priority based on must affected area and teacher availability.

The main risks: The main risk of this project is not having enough
funds to address all the needs in supporting the schools in producing
online courses because it’s a well-known fact that in schools in Haiti
adopted their own curriculum ignoring sometimes the official one. The
second concern

Stakeholders:
Client(sponsor): Ministry of Education

Project Manager: Reynold Guerrier

Project Team: Reynold Guerrier, Max Larson Henry,

Steering committee: Reynold Guerrier, Stéphane Bruno, Sergey Gaillard,
Roque Gagliano, Max Larson Henry

Other Stakeholders: Local ISP, LACNIC, ISOC, IDB

Budget and resources: ($, people, equipment, facilities, software, etc.)

* 100,000.00 USD for salaries to support technicians and their
family to get them back on track
* 5 contents production units
* Production software
* Management software
* 10 data center in a box

Milestones
Date Key deliverables

Feb-March 2010: Financial support to technicians and families
March 2010: Data center in a box
March-August 2010: Implementation period

Bank Account Info:
Bank: SOGEBANK
Bank Address : Route de Delmas, Delmas 29, Port-au-Prince, HAITI
Account Number: 130212988

Swift code : SOGHHTPP
Beneficiary : Association Haïtienne pour le Développement des
Technologies de l’Information et de la Communication
Beneficiary Address: 18, rue Moise, Pétion-Ville, HAITI

People interesting in working in Haiti can send me a skills and
availability statement too, but what is needed soonest is a budget
that can be applied to existing backfill cash needs passed through the
AHTIC.

Thanks and a tip o' the hat to Bill McCall who appraised me of the
truncation.

Eric


reygue at gmail

Feb 8, 2010, 9:43 AM

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Thanks Eric for support this project.

To all of you who want to donate, donations can be sent to directly to AHTIC
account:

*Please find below the AHTIC bank account information so you can proceed
with the money transfer. Please confirm this is the same information you
have since the beginning.
*

*
*

*Bank account: *SOGEBANK

*Bank Address : *Route de Delmas, Delmas 29, Port-au-Prince,
HAITI

*Account Number: *130212988

** *Swift code : *SOGHHTPP

*Beneficiary : *Association Hatienne pour le Dveloppement
des Technologies de lInformation et de la Communication

*Beneficiary Address: *18, rue Moise, Ption-Ville, HAITI

For Telecom gears (like routers, servers, software and programing time,
etc..) please contact Reynold Guerrier directly reygue [at] gmail,
509-3446-0099.

Regards

Reynold


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams
<brunner [at] nic-naa>wrote:

> Arg! The attachment died the death of "132485 bytes with a limit of 100
> KB". Oh well, it could have been the line eater bug in a USENET post.
>
> I posted an HTML version here:
> http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vault/2010/02/005491.html
>
> Cutting and Pasting (a high tech skill) yeilds:
>
> Project Title: Adopt-an-Haitian-Internet-technician-or-facility
>
> Project Description: The project aims to collect money and telecom gear to
> provide mid-term financial aid to IT technicians that have been affected
> with their families during the January 12, 2010 earthquake. Money, telecoms
> gears, time, software, etc will serve to setup technology community centers
> to support schools, universities, vocational centers that have collapsed.
>
> Begin Date
> February 2010
>
> End Date
> August 2010
>
> The Context: On the January 12, 2010, Haiti one of the poorest country in
> the world is hurt by a 7.3 Earthquake that caused major damage to
> Port-au-Prince, Jacmel, Leogane and other settlements around. Many notable
> landmark buildings were significantly damaged or destroyed, including
> schools, universities, vocational schools even the Port-au-Prince Cathedral,
> and the main jail. Among those killed are a lot of technicians, students,
> teachers.
>
> Many countries responded to appeals for humanitarian aid, pledging funds
> and dispatching rescue and medical teams, engineers and support personnel.
> Communication systems, air, land, and sea transport facilities, hospitals,
> schools, universities, and electrical networks had been damaged by the
> earthquake, which hampered rescue and aid efforts; confusion over who was in
> charge, air traffic congestion, and problems with prioritization of flights
> further complicated early relief work. As rescues tailed off, supplies,
> medical care and sanitation become priorities. Among them we also need to
> address education on a mid term run. With a lot of destroyed schools and
> dead teachers e-learning can be a good way to overcome this problem.
>
> Deliverables and criteria for close-out
>
> The projects has 2 majors deliverables:
>
> 1. Providing financial support to at least 50 technicians whose houses
> have been destroyed during the seism. The idea is getting them a job so they
> dont have to worry about their family basic needs and keeping them on their
> workplace
> 2. Setup mobile IT community centers to provide IT services to schools
> and universities.
> 3. Contents production for e-learning
>
> The project boundaries: This project aims to provide technical support to
> teachers helping them putting their courses online or on DVD and make it
> available for remote schools or schools whose teachers have been killed
> during the quake. Data Center in a box will facilitate access to those
> courses by the students. Project will be conducted in joint venture with the
> Ministry of Education that will define the priority based on must affected
> area and teacher availability.
>
> The main risks: The main risk of this project is not having enough funds to
> address all the needs in supporting the schools in producing online courses
> because its a well-known fact that in schools in Haiti adopted their own
> curriculum ignoring sometimes the official one. The second concern
>
> Stakeholders:
> Client(sponsor): Ministry of Education
>
> Project Manager: Reynold Guerrier
>
> Project Team: Reynold Guerrier, Max Larson Henry,
>
> Steering committee: Reynold Guerrier, Stphane Bruno, Sergey Gaillard,
> Roque Gagliano, Max Larson Henry
>
> Other Stakeholders: Local ISP, LACNIC, ISOC, IDB
>
> Budget and resources: ($, people, equipment, facilities, software, etc.)
>
> * 100,000.00 USD for salaries to support technicians and their family to
> get them back on track
> * 5 contents production units
> * Production software
> * Management software
>
> * 10 data center in a box
>
> Milestones
> Date Key deliverables
>
> Feb-March 2010: Financial support to technicians and families
> March 2010: Data center in a box
> March-August 2010: Implementation period
>
> Bank Account Info:
> Bank: SOGEBANK
> Bank Address : Route de Delmas, Delmas 29, Port-au-Prince, HAITI
> Account Number: 130212988
>
> Swift code : SOGHHTPP
> Beneficiary : Association Hatienne pour le Dveloppement des Technologies
> de lInformation et de la Communication
> Beneficiary Address: 18, rue Moise, Ption-Ville, HAITI
>
> People interesting in working in Haiti can send me a skills and
> availability statement too, but what is needed soonest is a budget that can
> be applied to existing backfill cash needs passed through the AHTIC.
>
> Thanks and a tip o' the hat to Bill McCall who appraised me of the
> truncation.
>
> Eric
>
>
>


--
===================================
Reynold Guerrier
IT Consultant
509-3446-0099
IM: reygue [at] hotmail
Skype: reygji


smb at cs

Feb 8, 2010, 9:47 AM

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As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of requests like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)


reygue at gmail

Feb 8, 2010, 9:55 AM

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I got your point Steven. It's an initiative of the AHTIC the Haitian
Association for the ICT development, Reports will be available on the funds
will be used.

http://www.ahtic.ht

http://www.e2tech.ht


Those sites are references of the AHTIC organizations.


Regards

reynold

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Steven Bellovin <smb [at] cs>wrote:

> As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of requests
> like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)




--
===================================
Reynold Guerrier
IT Consultant
509-3446-0099
IM: reygue [at] hotmail
Skype: reygji


gordslater at ieee

Feb 8, 2010, 9:57 AM

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On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 12:47 -0500, Steven Bellovin wrote:
> As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of requests like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)

(it isn't, for the benefit of any casual observers)

Technically, a `Very Good Point`. We'd all like to think we're not

Discuss..

I'm thinking: a personally-known web-of-trust, for a start. NANOG is a
small, specialist community. I'm also thinking most are familiar with
PGP/GnuPG, so most if not all of us can provide proof, even if we don't
normally.

Gord
--
SNMPv1:Flawful Intercept :)


brunner at nic-naa

Feb 8, 2010, 10:04 AM

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Steve,

Hmm. Are there other requests like this one? I suppose the pilot's
associations may be trying to raise money to fix the secondary
airfields -- a note from a member of Congress who's significant other
has been shuttling a Cessna and stand-alone early relief payloads from
the US VI to secondary fields in Haiti made me think of that as
another social affiliation targeted activity. I'm sure others are
possible.

There is the general problem of control, one reason the IRC contacted
CORE was to investigate a .redcross so that they could reduce their
loss to disaster fraud. Of course, we have to wait on ICANN to get a
.redcross or .icrc or ... .ouch into the root so that it becomes more
generally useful as a trusted sink of private and public packetized cash.

Then there is the specific problem of opportunity. We didn't wait
until FEMA authorized us to begin work when Katrina impacted the NOLA
and surrounding area, and if had, more would have died than did. As
we, who are not in the humanitarian relief line of work, look at the
loss of our peers, do we act, or do we leave specific tasks to the
general relief agencies?

I don't have a "best answer" and I'm aware that aid is difficult, for
all involved.

Eric


On 2/8/10 12:47 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote:
> As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of requests like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)
>


brunner at nic-naa

Feb 8, 2010, 11:09 AM

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True. Signed would have been smarter. Better still would be having
someone with more creds doing the initial ask.

Eric

On 2/8/10 1:05 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:57 AM, a.harrowell [at] gmail wrote:
>>> As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of requests like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)
>>
>> As a start, web of trust. This one was introduced to the list by Eric Brunner-Williams originally, a member in good standing.
>
> Err, no. It was introduced by (unsigned) email purporting to come from Eric. Followed by another (unsigned) message with bank info purporting to come from Reynold Guerrier. A bit of a difference.
>
> Regards,
> -drc
>
>
>
>
>
>


drc at virtualized

Feb 8, 2010, 11:22 AM

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On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
>> Err, no. It was introduced by (unsigned) email purporting to come from Eric. Followed by another (unsigned) message with bank info purporting to come from Reynold Guerrier. A bit of a difference.
> True. Signed would have been smarter. Better still would be having someone with more creds doing the initial ask.

In my mind, it isn't the credibility of the person doing the asking, rather it's the fact that (unsigned) email can't really be trusted (although most, if not all, of us do it all the time).

Regards,
-drc


sean at donelan

Feb 8, 2010, 12:02 PM

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On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Steven Bellovin wrote:
> As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of requests
>like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)

Although folks on the ground are focused on doing good work, this is an
area where the reputation and infrastructure of well-known organizations
can be used to validate and coordinate fund raising. Unfortunately, with
every disaster comes opportunites for fraud and con-men. Like Steve, I
don't think this is fake, but is always a good opportunity to educate
people who want to help.

One possible starting point is the Internet Society

http://isoc.org/wp/newsletter/?p=1536

We especially wish to draw attention to the immediate response of
organizations such as Inveneo, NetHope, the Network Startup Resource
Center (NSRC), Packet Clearing House (PCH), LACNIC, the IEEE, and many
others, all mobilizing for much-needed, practical, on-the-ground
assistance.

ISOC provides links to those organizations, but you should get the links
directly from ISOC or the organization not my mail message.

For those in the United States, another well-known starting point is the
WhiteHouse.GOV website

http://www.whitehouse.gov/haitiearthquake_embed

Again, those are just pointers. You should still verify people claiming
to represent those organizations, and contact them using some out-of-band
method. Phishers often email, postal mail, phone calls and even in person
contacts pretend to be well-known, well-trusted entities.

Suggestions from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation about scams and
how to report them in the US.

http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/earthquake011310.htm

--
Personal opinion, not representing any organization


LarrySheldon at cox

Feb 8, 2010, 12:59 PM

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On 2/8/2010 12:05 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:57 AM, a.harrowell [at] gmail wrote:
>>> As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of requests like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)
>>
>> As a start, web of trust. This one was introduced to the list by Eric Brunner-Williams originally, a member in good standing.
>
> Err, no. It was introduced by (unsigned) email purporting to come from Eric. Followed by another (unsigned) message with bank info purporting to come from Reynold Guerrier. A bit of a difference.
>

And looking back through my notes from the lectures provided for my
benefit over the years, I'm having a little trouble matching any of it
to the charter of NANOG, or differentiating it from the nominal subject
matter for NANAE.

--
"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to
take everything you have."

Remember: The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.

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jcdill.lists at gmail

Feb 8, 2010, 1:06 PM

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Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Steven Bellovin wrote:
>> As a matter of form, how might one check out the legitimacy of
>> requests like this? (No, I don't think this one is fake...)
>
> Although folks on the ground are focused on doing good work, this is an
> area where the reputation and infrastructure of well-known organizations
> can be used to validate and coordinate fund raising.

Another good reason is so that the funds are tax-deductible. People are
willing to give more when they know they can get a tax break and most
corporations won't give anything unless it's a tax-deductible donation.

There are special rules for personal donations for Haiti this year - if
you donate by the end of February 2010 you can take the deduction off of
your 2009 tax return. This means you realize the tax benefit
more-or-less right away, rather than having to wait a year to see the
tax benefit realized with a bigger refund (or smaller amount owed) when
you file your taxes in 2011.

jc


jmamodio at gmail

Feb 8, 2010, 1:07 PM

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> There is the general problem of control, one reason the IRC contacted CORE
> was to investigate a .redcross so that they could reduce their loss to
> disaster fraud. Of course, we have to wait on ICANN to get a .redcross or
> .icrc or ... .ouch into the root so that it becomes more generally useful as
> a trusted sink of private and public packetized cash.

I'd leave that statement and discussion for another thread, I think
that stating that the DNS and ICANN's mission is to provide certain
level of trust for worthy causes is out of the scope of the original
message and I'd also say this list.

With all due respect I don't believe that this is the time or cause to
inject the gTLD applicants "propaganda" to justify the need or
implicit community approval for such a gTLD.

Let's go back to the original subject.

I'd not mind if somebody properly sets up an easy and legit way for
individuals or members of the "networking community" a way to donate
small quantities to help Raynold and his crew directly via things such
as PayPal, but there is a ton of aid going to HT, perhaps somebody
with access can influence the process to better direct the funds where
they are needed.

Regards
Jorge

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