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ge at linuxbox

Nov 18, 2009, 9:08 AM

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Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public
participation.

The group holds top experts on internet technology, critical
infrastructure, and internet governance, from around the globe.

Together, we discuss definitions, problems, challenges and solutions in
securing and assuring the reliability of the global internet
infrastructure, which is critical infrastructure for a growing number of
nations, corporations and indeed, individuals -- world wide.

The group started as a closed and private forum, to discuss technical
and operational risks, as other venues limited discussion of critical
internet resources to politically charged subjects such ascontrol of
ICANN and ARIN, thus overshadowing other important aspects.

As of November 18th 2009, the list is open for public access, to advance
public awareness of the issues, and bring new talent on board.

The group is hosted by the ISOTF, but is governed by members.

Note: SCADA, network operations, and other related issues should be
discussed in the appropriate forums, elsewhere. This group deals with
the internet.

To subscribe:
http://isotf.org/mailman/listinfo/cii

Gadi Evron for ISOTF-CII-WG.

simon at slimey

Nov 18, 2009, 9:12 AM

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Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation [In reply to]

On Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:08:31PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote:
> ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public
> participation.

Sorry, who is ISOTF?

I tried looking on the website, but the "About ISOTF" page is blank...

http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=0

Simon

ge at linuxbox

Nov 18, 2009, 9:29 AM

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Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation [In reply to]

Simon Lockhart wrote:
> On Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:08:31PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote:
>> ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public
>> participation.
>
> Sorry, who is ISOTF?
>
> I tried looking on the website, but the "About ISOTF" page is blank...
>
> http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=0

It's the blanket name we use to host meetings, publish papers, or give a
home on the web for task forces of volunteers for global incident
response and similar matters.

We don't like the idea of formalizing it, and thus not much data is
available on the official web page. Perhaps that needs to be fixed.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Gadi.

>
> Simon
>

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Gadi Evron,
ge [at] linuxbox

Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/

youssef.ghorbal at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 10:24 AM

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Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation [In reply to]

Off topic, but are you serious about the "Admin Interface" Link
(http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=13223) or is it just a joke ?

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Gadi Evron <ge [at] linuxbox> wrote:
> Simon Lockhart wrote:
>>
>> On Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:08:31PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote:
>>>
>>> ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public
>>> participation.
>>
>> Sorry, who is ISOTF?
>>
>> I tried looking on the website, but the "About ISOTF" page is blank...
>>
>> http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=0
>
> It's the blanket name we use to host meetings, publish papers, or give a
> home on the web for task forces of volunteers for global incident response
> and similar matters.
>
> We don't like the idea of formalizing it, and thus not much data is
> available on the official web page. Perhaps that needs to be fixed.
>
> Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
>
> Gadi.
>
>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>
>
> --
> Gadi Evron,
> ge [at] linuxbox
>
> Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/
>
>

ge at linuxbox

Nov 18, 2009, 1:32 PM

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Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation [In reply to]

Youssef Ghorbal wrote:
> Off topic, but are you serious about the "Admin Interface" Link
> (http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=13223) or is it just a joke ?
>

hehe, thanks for noticing. I'm sure Randy Vaughn gets excited every
single time someone does.

Reddit had fun with our admin interface a while back:
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/6a32u/please_enter_the_first_1178_digits_of_pi_wait/

As to if it's a joke... one way to find out. :)

Gadi.

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Gadi Evron,
ge [at] linuxbox

Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/

jmamodio at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 8:25 PM

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Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation [In reply to]

Still you didn't answer the question.

What ISOTF stands for and who are "we" ?

What papers the "we" published ? where ?

Regards
Jorge

ge at linuxbox

Nov 18, 2009, 11:27 PM

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Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation [In reply to]

Jorge Amodio wrote:
> Still you didn't answer the question.
>
> What ISOTF stands for and who are "we" ?
>
> What papers the "we" published ? where ?

This is off-topic, so while we give some thought as to what to put on
the public web page in the future, here is a quick answer. Future
responses, please off-list.

ISOTF stands for Internet Security Operations Task Force. It's a loosely
affiliated group of people who respond to Internet-wide incident
response, and sometimes, need an umbrella name.

I can share personal examples of past uses relating to NANOG, which are
public. I realize you need a blurb-like answer rather than answer by
example. Public is new for us, so give us time:

I can share personal examples of past uses relating to NANOG, which are
public:

1. Monthly botnet C&C's report, posted for a while from
c2reports [at] isotf by Randy Vaughn and myself.

2. We also use it to host some papers such as I did the original DNS
Amplification Attacks, which was released prior to being able to get
academic credit or decent editing, due to operational needs of major
attacks in the wild, with very little information known at the time by
operators.

3. ISOI stands for Internet Security Operations and Intelligence. It is
a non-profit and closed workshop for vetted and trusted individuals in
communities such as MWP, NSP-SEC, MAAWG, and in government, law
enforcement, industry and academia in North America and world-wide. In
it sensitive subjects relating to the security of the Internet
infrastructure, combating cyber crime, phishing, botnets and fraud are
being discussed.

ISOI 1 was hosted by Cisco and supported by the ISC.
http://isotf.org/isoi.html

ISOI 2 was hosted by Microsoft and supported by Trend Micro.
http://isotf.org/isoi2.html

ISOI 3 was hosted by ICANN, ISOC and Afilias, and supported by Sunbelt
Software.
http://isotf.org/isoi3.html

ISOI 4 was hosted by Yahoo! and supported by various local SF-bay companies.
http://isotf.org/isoi4.html

ISOI 5 was hosted by the Estonian CERT and supported by Norman.
http://isotf.org/isoi5.html

ISOI 6 was hosted by the University of Texas, Dallas, and supported by
Baylor University.
http://isotf.org/isoi6.html

ISOI 7 was hosted by Websense and ESET, and supported by Facebook and
Softlayer:
http://isotf.org/isoi7.html

Gadi.

>
> Regards
> Jorge
>

--
Gadi Evron,
ge [at] linuxbox

Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/

ge at linuxbox

Nov 18, 2009, 11:36 PM

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Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation [In reply to]

Gadi Evron wrote:
> I can share personal examples of past uses relating to NANOG, which are
> public:
>

Oh, duh! The outages mailing list is part of the ISOTF, although clearly
its own entity.

Gadi.

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