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ilopezlists at sandboxitsolutions

Oct 24, 2009, 6:55 PM

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Nanog Mentioned in TED Video: Jonathan Zittrain

Remember when youtube went down?
Mr. Zittrain briefly mentions nanog during his TED talk in July 2009.

http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_zittrain_the_web_is_a_random_act_of_kindness.html

Enjoy.


patrick at ianai

Oct 24, 2009, 6:59 PM

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Re: Nanog Mentioned in TED Video: Jonathan Zittrain [In reply to]

On Oct 24, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote:

> Remember when youtube went down?
> Mr. Zittrain briefly mentions nanog during his TED talk in July 2009.
>
> http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_zittrain_the_web_is_a_random_act_of_kindness.html

Been discussed.

He's obviously wrong about some things. No one does anything without
getting paid. But he is kinda right in some ways too.

--
TTFN,
patrick


owen at delong

Oct 25, 2009, 11:24 AM

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Re: Nanog Mentioned in TED Video: Jonathan Zittrain [In reply to]

On Oct 24, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

> On Oct 24, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote:
>
>> Remember when youtube went down?
>> Mr. Zittrain briefly mentions nanog during his TED talk in July 2009.
>>
>> http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_zittrain_the_web_is_a_random_act_of_kindness.html
>
> Been discussed.
>
> He's obviously wrong about some things. No one does anything
> without getting paid. But he is kinda right in some ways too.
>
Lots of us actually do lots of things without getting paid.

We also do some things for which we get paid.

Owen


patrick at ianai

Oct 25, 2009, 5:56 PM

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Re: Nanog Mentioned in TED Video: Jonathan Zittrain [In reply to]

On Oct 25, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote:
>>
>>> Remember when youtube went down?
>>> Mr. Zittrain briefly mentions nanog during his TED talk in July
>>> 2009.
>>>
>>> http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_zittrain_the_web_is_a_random_act_of_kindness.html
>>
>> Been discussed.
>>
>> He's obviously wrong about some things. No one does anything
>> without getting paid. But he is kinda right in some ways too.
>>
> Lots of us actually do lots of things without getting paid.

Mea culpa! You are (most obviously) correct.

I meant to say "no one passes a packet without getting paid",
specifically in response to his passing the beer in the stadium analogy.

While it is true there are a few packets passed without payment, I'm
pretty sure it's 0% of the total, to several decimal places.

Thank you for pointing out my error.

--
TTFN,
patrick


> We also do some things for which we get paid.
>
> Owen
>


owen at delong

Oct 25, 2009, 9:01 PM

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Re: Nanog Mentioned in TED Video: Jonathan Zittrain [In reply to]

On Oct 25, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

> On Oct 25, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember when youtube went down?
>>>> Mr. Zittrain briefly mentions nanog during his TED talk in July
>>>> 2009.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_zittrain_the_web_is_a_random_act_of_kindness.html
>>>
>>> Been discussed.
>>>
>>> He's obviously wrong about some things. No one does anything
>>> without getting paid. But he is kinda right in some ways too.
>>>
>> Lots of us actually do lots of things without getting paid.
>
> Mea culpa! You are (most obviously) correct.
>
> I meant to say "no one passes a packet without getting paid",
> specifically in response to his passing the beer in the stadium
> analogy.
>
Hurricane Electric offers free IPv6 transit to virtually anyone. We
also provide IPv4 transit for free to a number of non-profit and
community benefit organizations.

> While it is true there are a few packets passed without payment, I'm
> pretty sure it's 0% of the total, to several decimal places.
>
Maybe 2 or 3 decimal places, but, I honestly don't have the exact
statistic.

Owen
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