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rossi at fidalia

Sep 22, 2009, 8:06 AM

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SMS

Hello,

I have no idea what this is referred to as, so I will try to explain: I have a client interested in setting up a mobile phone text message service where a mobile user would send a text to a short (say 5 digit) 'telephone' number. I've seen commercials on TV where you could send a numeric/text code to a SMS gateway number, and it charges your mobile account for the returned text message or downloadable ringer/etc.

Without knowing much about how to access this service, it seems relatively straightforward.

I did a few web searches however I'm not sure what magic keyword I'm missing for the search. Could anyone point me in the right direction? The service would be established in Canada and potentially the United States. I have called two of the largest mobile operators, but no one can get me to the right department.

As far as experience with texting goes, I have worked on some systems that do M2M (machine-to-machine) SMS communication, always using full mobile telephone numbers (GSM modems).

Many thanks,

-Shaun


Shaun Rossi
Fidalia Networks Inc
tel. (905) 271-0037 x 111
1-866-FIDALIA (343-2542) x 111
fax. (905) 271-1036

1 Port Street East - Second Floor
Mississauga, Ontario
L5G 4N1 Canada


bill at edisys

Sep 22, 2009, 8:17 AM

Post #2 of 25 (1879 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

<quote who="Shaun Rossi">
> Hello,
>
> I have no idea what this is referred to as, so I will try
> to explain: I have a client interested in setting up a
> mobile phone text message service where a mobile user
> would send a text to a short (say 5 digit) 'telephone'
> number. I've seen commercials on TV where you could send
> a numeric/text code to a SMS gateway number, and it
> charges your mobile account for the returned text message
> or downloadable ringer/etc.

*snip*

These are SMS short codes.

Essentially you purchase service from an SMS aggregator (that's your
missing key word) and you can bulk send your SMS through some sort of API
or HTML gateway. They will generally have agreements with the mobile
networks to have anything that is sent to a particular short code
forwarded onto the aggregator so that they can make them available to you.

A Google search for "SMS aggregator US" should point you in the right
direction, although I've only had direct experience (and a few years ago
now) with Opera Telecom in the UK.

B


rossi at fidalia

Sep 22, 2009, 8:18 AM

Post #3 of 25 (1876 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

"Short-codes" it is!

Thanks everyone,

-Shaun


Shaun Rossi
Fidalia Networks Inc
tel. (905) 271-0037 x 111
1-866-FIDALIA (343-2542) x 111
fax. (905) 271-1036

1 Port Street East - Second Floor
Mississauga, Ontario
L5G 4N1 Canada


mailinglists at expresswebsystems

Sep 22, 2009, 8:19 AM

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RE: SMS [In reply to]

Shaun,

This is called "Short code sms messaging". www.clickatell.com offers this
service and is considered to be one of the bigger players in the SMS market.

Warm regards,

Tom Walsh
Express Web Systems, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shaun Rossi [mailto:rossi [at] fidalia]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:07 AM
> To: nanog [at] nanog
> Subject: SMS
>
> Hello,
>
> I have no idea what this is referred to as, so I will
> try to explain: I have a client interested in setting up a mobile
> phone text message service where a mobile user would send a text to a
> short (say 5 digit) 'telephone' number. I've seen commercials on TV
> where you could send a numeric/text code to a SMS gateway number, and
> it charges your mobile account for the returned text message or
> downloadable ringer/etc.
>
> Without knowing much about how to access this service,
> it seems relatively straightforward.
>
> I did a few web searches however I'm not sure what
> magic keyword I'm missing for the search. Could anyone point me in the
> right direction? The service would be established in Canada and
> potentially the United States. I have called two of the largest mobile
> operators, but no one can get me to the right department.
>
> As far as experience with texting goes, I have worked on some systems
> that do M2M (machine-to-machine) SMS communication, always using full
> mobile telephone numbers (GSM modems).
>
> Many thanks,
>
> -Shaun
>
>
> Shaun Rossi
> Fidalia Networks Inc
> tel. (905) 271-0037 x 111
> 1-866-FIDALIA (343-2542) x 111
> fax. (905) 271-1036
>
> 1 Port Street East - Second Floor
> Mississauga, Ontario
> L5G 4N1 Canada


sronan at fattoc

Sep 22, 2009, 8:35 AM

Post #5 of 25 (1877 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from my
monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.

Appreciate the assistance.

Shane Ronan

On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Express Web Systems wrote:

> Shaun,
>
> This is called "Short code sms messaging". www.clickatell.com offers
> this
> service and is considered to be one of the bigger players in the SMS
> market.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Tom Walsh
> Express Web Systems, Inc.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shaun Rossi [mailto:rossi [at] fidalia]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:07 AM
>> To: nanog [at] nanog
>> Subject: SMS
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have no idea what this is referred to as, so I will
>> try to explain: I have a client interested in setting up a mobile
>> phone text message service where a mobile user would send a text to a
>> short (say 5 digit) 'telephone' number. I've seen commercials on TV
>> where you could send a numeric/text code to a SMS gateway number, and
>> it charges your mobile account for the returned text message or
>> downloadable ringer/etc.
>>
>> Without knowing much about how to access this service,
>> it seems relatively straightforward.
>>
>> I did a few web searches however I'm not sure what
>> magic keyword I'm missing for the search. Could anyone point me in
>> the
>> right direction? The service would be established in Canada and
>> potentially the United States. I have called two of the largest
>> mobile
>> operators, but no one can get me to the right department.
>>
>> As far as experience with texting goes, I have worked on some systems
>> that do M2M (machine-to-machine) SMS communication, always using full
>> mobile telephone numbers (GSM modems).
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> -Shaun
>>
>>
>> Shaun Rossi
>> Fidalia Networks Inc
>> tel. (905) 271-0037 x 111
>> 1-866-FIDALIA (343-2542) x 111
>> fax. (905) 271-1036
>>
>> 1 Port Street East - Second Floor
>> Mississauga, Ontario
>> L5G 4N1 Canada
>
>


abalashov at evaristesys

Sep 22, 2009, 8:52 AM

Post #6 of 25 (1878 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

Shane Ronan wrote:

> On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
> gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from my
> monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.
>
> Appreciate the assistance.

Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?

--
Alex Balashov - Principal
Evariste Systems
Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/
Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670
Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671


scott at sberkman

Sep 22, 2009, 8:59 AM

Post #7 of 25 (1878 views)
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RE: SMS [In reply to]

Many people consider these (carrier email to SMS gateways) too unreliable as
there are no SLAs from the carriers, and sometimes experience long delays in
message delivery, or just flat out dropped messages. If this is what you
are depending on for outage notification that's a big risk.

Some people use a serial interface to a specific model cell phones to
directly send the message over the carrier's cellular network. This is good
in the event of isolation of a location from any IP connectivity to a
carrier gateway.

I believe there was another solution that involved direct carrier
connections, but these are most likely cost prohibitive in most situations.

There is a good thread on this somewhere a little while back in the NANOG
archives with more details of the solutions.

-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Balashov [mailto:abalashov [at] evaristesys]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:53 AM
To: Shane Ronan
Cc: nanog [at] nanog
Subject: Re: SMS

Shane Ronan wrote:

> On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
> gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from my
> monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.
>
> Appreciate the assistance.

Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?

--
Alex Balashov - Principal
Evariste Systems
Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/
Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670
Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671


scott at sberkman

Sep 22, 2009, 9:03 AM

Post #8 of 25 (1877 views)
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RE: SMS [In reply to]

Another for this list is http://msgme.com/.

Setting up your own short codes is an expensive and long process, so you are
usually best starting off with a shared code from one of these companies and
you can migrate down the line if the revenue/volume is there to make it
worthwhile.

-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Express Web Systems [mailto:mailinglists [at] expresswebsystems]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:19 AM
To: 'Shaun Rossi'; nanog [at] nanog
Subject: RE: SMS

Shaun,

This is called "Short code sms messaging". www.clickatell.com offers this
service and is considered to be one of the bigger players in the SMS market.

Warm regards,

Tom Walsh
Express Web Systems, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shaun Rossi [mailto:rossi [at] fidalia]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:07 AM
> To: nanog [at] nanog
> Subject: SMS
>
> Hello,
>
> I have no idea what this is referred to as, so I will
> try to explain: I have a client interested in setting up a mobile
> phone text message service where a mobile user would send a text to a
> short (say 5 digit) 'telephone' number. I've seen commercials on TV
> where you could send a numeric/text code to a SMS gateway number, and
> it charges your mobile account for the returned text message or
> downloadable ringer/etc.
>
> Without knowing much about how to access this service,
> it seems relatively straightforward.
>
> I did a few web searches however I'm not sure what
> magic keyword I'm missing for the search. Could anyone point me in the
> right direction? The service would be established in Canada and
> potentially the United States. I have called two of the largest mobile
> operators, but no one can get me to the right department.
>
> As far as experience with texting goes, I have worked on some systems
> that do M2M (machine-to-machine) SMS communication, always using full
> mobile telephone numbers (GSM modems).
>
> Many thanks,
>
> -Shaun
>
>
> Shaun Rossi
> Fidalia Networks Inc
> tel. (905) 271-0037 x 111
> 1-866-FIDALIA (343-2542) x 111
> fax. (905) 271-1036
>
> 1 Port Street East - Second Floor
> Mississauga, Ontario
> L5G 4N1 Canada


herrin-nanog at dirtside

Sep 22, 2009, 9:29 AM

Post #9 of 25 (1876 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Berkman <scott [at] sberkman> wrote:
> Some people use a serial interface to a specific model cell phones to
> directly send the message over the carrier's cellular network.  This is good
> in the event of isolation of a location from any IP connectivity to a
> carrier gateway.

The Multitech Multimodem GPRS model MTCBA-G-EN-F4 has an ethernet
port. Add a SIM card from your favorite wireless carrier and you can
send and receive SMS messages via "AT" commands over a TCP socket.
Problem is, it seizes up or otherwise founders every few weeks and has
to be power cycled.

Has anyone heard of other products with a good reliability record?


> I believe there was another solution that involved direct carrier
> connections, but these are most likely cost prohibitive in most situations.

Any pointers on this would be greatly appreciated. I have a need for
geographically redundant access to the same phone numbers in order to
send and receive SMS messages. Even if I have to buy a pair of T1s
that are 99.9% idle, it'd be worth it.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


--
William D. Herrin ................ herrin [at] dirtside bill [at] herrin
3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004


scott at sberkman

Sep 22, 2009, 10:00 AM

Post #10 of 25 (1877 views)
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RE: SMS [In reply to]

FYI here is one view of one of the threads I was recalling:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/104612?search_string=sms;#
104612

Make sure to look at post #5 that summarized a previous thread too.

I think the "direct connection" I was thinking of was the modem to TAP
gateway options.

-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: wherrin [at] gmail [mailto:wherrin [at] gmail] On Behalf Of William
Herrin
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:29 PM
To: Scott Berkman
Cc: nanog [at] nanog
Subject: Re: SMS

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Berkman <scott [at] sberkman> wrote:
> Some people use a serial interface to a specific model cell phones to
> directly send the message over the carrier's cellular network.  This is
good
> in the event of isolation of a location from any IP connectivity to a
> carrier gateway.

The Multitech Multimodem GPRS model MTCBA-G-EN-F4 has an ethernet
port. Add a SIM card from your favorite wireless carrier and you can
send and receive SMS messages via "AT" commands over a TCP socket.
Problem is, it seizes up or otherwise founders every few weeks and has
to be power cycled.

Has anyone heard of other products with a good reliability record?


> I believe there was another solution that involved direct carrier
> connections, but these are most likely cost prohibitive in most
situations.

Any pointers on this would be greatly appreciated. I have a need for
geographically redundant access to the same phone numbers in order to
send and receive SMS messages. Even if I have to buy a pair of T1s
that are 99.9% idle, it'd be worth it.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


--
William D. Herrin ................ herrin [at] dirtside bill [at] herrin
3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004


Richard.E.Brown at dartware

Sep 22, 2009, 10:02 AM

Post #11 of 25 (1879 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

--- Shane Ronan wrote:
On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from my
monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.
--- end of quote ---

There are several ways to do this:

- Open source software like Gammu (http://cihar.com/gammu/) can send SMS messages
through a USB or RS232 attached mobile phone or cellular modem.

- We've had good luck with the MultiTech MultiModem GPRS, model MTCBA-G-U-F2 (USB)
and Multitech GPRS MTCBA-G-F4 and Wavecomm RS-232 GSM (RS-232) modems.

- Many monitoring/management packages have built-in or add-on SMS sending utilities.

- You may not want to rely on the cellular carrier's e-mail-to-SMS gateway, either
because of connectivity problems or the cell carrier's delay/reliability problems.

- There's also a kludge that's good for a "disaster notification" that simply
rings a phone when something really bad happens. :-) Basically, the system uses
its numeric pager/TAP software to dial through an analog modem and a POTS line
and ring your phone/cell. The CallerID tells you who's calling, even there's no
message. There's a KB article at the InterMapper site describing this is at...

http://forums.dartware.com/viewtopic.php?t=913

Rich Brown richard.e.brown [at] dartware
Dartware, LLC http://www.dartware.com
66-7 Benning Street Telephone: 603-643-9600
West Lebanon, NH 03784-3407 Fax: 603-643-2289


cmadams at hiwaay

Sep 22, 2009, 10:35 AM

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Re: SMS [In reply to]

Once upon a time, Alex Balashov <abalashov [at] evaristesys> said:
> Shane Ronan wrote:
> >On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
> >gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from my
> >monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.
>
> Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?

They tend to be unreliable (long delays and dropped messages). Also,
how can your monitoring system email the gateway when the network is
down?
--
Chris Adams <cmadams [at] hiwaay>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.


cmadams at hiwaay

Sep 22, 2009, 10:41 AM

Post #13 of 25 (1878 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

Once upon a time, William Herrin <herrin-nanog [at] dirtside> said:
> The Multitech Multimodem GPRS model MTCBA-G-EN-F4 has an ethernet
> port. Add a SIM card from your favorite wireless carrier and you can
> send and receive SMS messages via "AT" commands over a TCP socket.
> Problem is, it seizes up or otherwise founders every few weeks and has
> to be power cycled.
>
> Has anyone heard of other products with a good reliability record?

We have the MTCBA-G-U-F4-ED (the USB version) and have not had any
trouble. I had to modify the Linux kernel driver for the chipset used
to load the firmware correctly (and optionally externally instead of
just compiled in), but those changes are in the upstream kernel now.

We haven't had any problem with it locking up or anything; the server
with it attached has been up for a year (as of 41 minutes ago :-) ) with
no problems (haven't had to pull the modem or anything like that).

We have an AT&T SIM card in it, and we did have problems with AT&T's SMS
several months ago; for several hours, they were rejecting messages from
our modem. Now I have an additional monitor that sends a message to
itself periodically, and (of course) we haven't had that problem since.
--
Chris Adams <cmadams [at] hiwaay>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.


sronan at fattoc

Sep 22, 2009, 1:27 PM

Post #14 of 25 (1860 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

How do I send out an email if the network is down?

On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:

> Shane Ronan wrote:
>
>> On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
>> gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from
>> my monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.
>> Appreciate the assistance.
>
> Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?
>
> --
> Alex Balashov - Principal
> Evariste Systems
> Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/
> Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670
> Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671


brandon.galbraith at gmail

Sep 22, 2009, 1:31 PM

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Re: SMS [In reply to]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Shane Ronan <sronan [at] fattoc> wrote:

> How do I send out an email if the network is down?
>
>
Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?
>>
>
>
Your external monitoring box sends the email? You do have something doing
external monitoring, right?


--
Brandon Galbraith
Mobile: 630.400.6992
FNAL: 630.840.2141


bmanning at vacation

Sep 22, 2009, 1:37 PM

Post #16 of 25 (1864 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 03:31:48PM -0500, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Shane Ronan <sronan [at] fattoc> wrote:
>
> > How do I send out an email if the network is down?
> >
> >
> Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?
> >>
> >
> >
> Your external monitoring box sends the email? You do have something doing
> external monitoring, right?
>
>
> --
> Brandon Galbraith
> Mobile: 630.400.6992
> FNAL: 630.840.2141


well, my ISP is my telco, is my cable/TV co... that whole
triple-play - bundled service thing.

so not only can't i send email, i can't call either. fortunately
i have these homing birds ... faster than RSA DSL and likely most
"broadband" in the US too.

--bill


AOsgood at Streamline-Solutions

Sep 22, 2009, 1:58 PM

Post #17 of 25 (1861 views)
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RE: SMS [In reply to]

We have a package which uses the MultiTech line of modems coupled with
software that will watch files on your network and generate SMS messges (or
SNPP, WCTP, TAP, FAX, etc). The underlying engine is a highly customized
version of PageGate software from NotePage, Inc. Part of our customization
was to defeat the issue you mentioned of "modem suspension". It was
initially designed for high volume short messages of a critical nature and
is in use in numerous Public Safety (Fire/Police/EMS) communications
centers. Often, the Public Safety agency will contract with us to provide
and install the system, then the IT department realizes the benefits of
using it to monitor their systems. Please contact me off list if you would
like more information

Aaron D. Osgood

Streamline Solutions L.L.C

P.O. Box 6115
Falmouth, ME 04105

TEL: 207-781-5561
FAX: 615-704-8067
MOBILE: 207-831-5829
AOsgood [at] Streamline-Solutions
http://www.streamline-solutions.net

Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986.


-----Original Message-----
From: William Herrin [mailto:herrin-nanog [at] dirtside]
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:29 PM
To: Scott Berkman
Cc: nanog [at] nanog
Subject: Re: SMS

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Berkman <scott [at] sberkman> wrote:
> Some people use a serial interface to a specific model cell phones to
> directly send the message over the carrier's cellular network.  This is
good
> in the event of isolation of a location from any IP connectivity to a
> carrier gateway.

The Multitech Multimodem GPRS model MTCBA-G-EN-F4 has an ethernet
port. Add a SIM card from your favorite wireless carrier and you can
send and receive SMS messages via "AT" commands over a TCP socket.
Problem is, it seizes up or otherwise founders every few weeks and has
to be power cycled.

Has anyone heard of other products with a good reliability record?


> I believe there was another solution that involved direct carrier
> connections, but these are most likely cost prohibitive in most
situations.

Any pointers on this would be greatly appreciated. I have a need for
geographically redundant access to the same phone numbers in order to
send and receive SMS messages. Even if I have to buy a pair of T1s
that are 99.9% idle, it'd be worth it.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


--
William D. Herrin ................ herrin [at] dirtside bill [at] herrin
3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004


frederic at placenet

Sep 22, 2009, 1:59 PM

Post #18 of 25 (1864 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

Le mardi 22 septembre 2009 à 16:27 -0400, Shane Ronan a écrit :
> How do I send out an email if the network is down?
>

via a gsm modem (phone + usb cable) connect to you monitoring server.




> On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
>
> > Shane Ronan wrote:
> >
> >> On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
> >> gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from
> >> my monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.
> >> Appreciate the assistance.
> >
> > Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?
> >
> > --
> > Alex Balashov - Principal
> > Evariste Systems
> > Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/
> > Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670
> > Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671
>
>
>


wmaton at ryouko

Sep 22, 2009, 2:09 PM

Post #19 of 25 (1863 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Shane Ronan wrote:

> How do I send out an email if the network is down?

I have had success using a GSM phone hooked up to the server via USB.
(Bonus is that the server constantly 'charges' the phone). An ugly set of
scripts deals with taking emails and changing them into SMS messages which
are then transmitted through that phone to another.

>
> On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
>
>> Shane Ronan wrote:
>>
>>> On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS gateway
>>> service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from my monitoring
>>> systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.
>>> Appreciate the assistance.
>>
>> Why not use an e-mail to SMS gateway from whichever carrier?
>>
>> --
>> Alex Balashov - Principal
>> Evariste Systems
>> Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/
>> Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670
>> Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671
>


wfms


sethm at rollernet

Sep 22, 2009, 2:15 PM

Post #20 of 25 (1861 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

William F. Maton Sotomayor wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Shane Ronan wrote:
>
>> How do I send out an email if the network is down?
>
> I have had success using a GSM phone hooked up to the server via USB.
> (Bonus is that the server constantly 'charges' the phone). An ugly set
> of scripts deals with taking emails and changing them into SMS messages
> which are then transmitted through that phone to another.
>

I use an old 1xRTT Sprint phone and send SMS via SNPP. As a bonus, as
long as I know the IP the PPP connection has, I can SSH back as long as
whatever took out all my hardlines doesn't kill all the cell towers in
range.

~Seth


nanog at daork

Sep 22, 2009, 4:28 PM

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Re: SMS [In reply to]

On 23/09/2009, at 4:29 AM, William Herrin wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Berkman <scott [at] sberkman>
> wrote:
>> Some people use a serial interface to a specific model cell phones to
>> directly send the message over the carrier's cellular network.
>> This is good
>> in the event of isolation of a location from any IP connectivity to a
>> carrier gateway.
>
> The Multitech Multimodem GPRS model MTCBA-G-EN-F4 has an ethernet
> port. Add a SIM card from your favorite wireless carrier and you can
> send and receive SMS messages via "AT" commands over a TCP socket.
> Problem is, it seizes up or otherwise founders every few weeks and has
> to be power cycled.
>
> Has anyone heard of other products with a good reliability record?

That is shocking.

I have had a fantastic track record with a Maestro 100 GSM modem with
a serial interface.

One of my customers has one powered on for about a year now, and it's
never missed a beat.

They apparently support TCP/IP and the datasheet mentions something
about email, but I have no idea what that really means, and don't
really care so much.
I send it standard GSM AT commands, and it just works.

I've done the whole old nokia handset thing in the past several times
and it's *ok*. Now though, I say don't bother, this thing is maybe a
couple hundred dollars, and saves you oodles of time fooling around
making it work reliably.

--
Nathan Ward


johnl at iecc

Sep 22, 2009, 8:23 PM

Post #22 of 25 (1806 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

In article <A28E70A6-ED1E-4DC0-AAA1-66D723E6418C [at] fattoc> you write:
>On that same note, can someone point me in the direction of an SMS
>gateway service? I would like to be able to send SMS messages from my
>monitoring systems, but I am unsure about how to go about it.

If your monitoring system has reliable IP connectivity, I can recommend
Clickatell. If not, try one of the cellular modem kludges people have
described.

For my own amusement, I wrote a little hack that takes the voicemail
messages that my VoIP service mails me, extracts a few salient facts
of calling number and message length, and sends me an SMS notification
to my mobile phone so I know to call and pick up my messages. Works
great.

R's,
John


jtodd at loligo

Sep 23, 2009, 7:42 AM

Post #23 of 25 (1795 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:29 AM, William Herrin wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Scott Berkman <scott [at] sberkman>
> wrote:
> [snip]
>> I believe there was another solution that involved direct carrier
>> connections, but these are most likely cost prohibitive in most
>> situations.
>
> Any pointers on this would be greatly appreciated. I have a need for
> geographically redundant access to the same phone numbers in order to
> send and receive SMS messages. Even if I have to buy a pair of T1s
> that are 99.9% idle, it'd be worth it.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
> --
> William D. Herrin ................ herrin [at] dirtside bill [at] herrin
> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004


This question frequently arises on the VoIP/Asterisk lists, since
it is a question that VoIP service providers often wish to answer -
"How do I SMS-enable my VoIP customer numbers?"

In other areas of the world, SMS is much more easily tied into
existing voice networks - in the UK (among others) for instance, SMS
is possible over PRI connections, which enables "land lines" to send
and receive SMS messages. Clickatell, the company referenced
previously, is based in South Africa. Buying their service for
delivery of SMS into North America means that your messages will be
sent with a "generic" short-code, which is not guaranteed and has in
the past even been blocked by carriers. Users cannot reply to those
messages, because many other companies are using the same short code
return address. If you look at their website, you'll see that if you
live in one of a few non-NA nations, you can buy an actual phone
number (not a short code) which can be used for high-volume
bidirectional communication via SMS.

Here in North America, we're basically out of luck unless you hack
together a hardware-based SMS device, and even that may be not
reliable since carriers explicitly state that their accounts cannot be
shared, and a large number of SMS messages to/from a particular
account may cause it to be disconnected without warning. It appears
to me that carriers have taken the stance that SMS should be for
infrequent messages between actual fingers (no automation allowed!) or
via short codes, and short codes involve a significant amount of cost,
configuration, and even arbitrary approvals from the carriers on the
use of a short code. If you look at the form required for a short
code request, you'll discover that it's not for generic use - it's
geared entirely for ad campaigns.

A few years ago I tried searching for SMS-enabled SIP telephone
numbers (DIDs) and found that there was a new service available, but
the monthly price floor was pretty steep. I still have not met anyone
actually offering the service, but I'm sure there must be resellers of
it by now. It was Level 3, offering SIP trunks with DIDs on them.
Another company, Syniverse, was then SMS-enabling those numbers in an
exclusive agreement. Payment had to go to each company, separately.
The costs per number to enable SMS were fairly low, and the costs for
message transmission were fairly low, but the Level 3 minimum purchase
price was quite high (imagine that you could buy a nice sports car
every month with the "minimum payment".) I have no idea if this
service is still available, or how successful it's been.

If anyone now has direct experience with a reseller or small
distributor of this service, let me know - I'm still looking for a SIP-
capable DID that can handle SMTP/SMPP/XML-HTML transmission of SMS
messages with some decent volume (200-1000 messages per day.)

Here's a message in a thread from a while back on this topic which has
some pointers:

http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-October/220726.html

JT

---
John Todd email:jtodd [at] digium
Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA
direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/


rs at seastrom

Sep 29, 2009, 6:22 PM

Post #24 of 25 (1630 views)
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Re: SMS [In reply to]

William Herrin <herrin-nanog [at] dirtside> writes:

> The Multitech Multimodem GPRS model MTCBA-G-EN-F4 has an ethernet
> port. Add a SIM card from your favorite wireless carrier and you can
> send and receive SMS messages via "AT" commands over a TCP socket.
> Problem is, it seizes up or otherwise founders every few weeks and has
> to be power cycled.
>
> Has anyone heard of other products with a good reliability record?

Sorry to be late to add to the hate, but the MacOSX drivers for the
USB flavor (MTCBA-G-U-F4) have issues. Finally got it running on a
standalone Intel mini that we use just for text messages. :-P

-r


AOsgood at Streamline-Solutions

Sep 30, 2009, 5:24 PM

Post #25 of 25 (1596 views)
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RE: SMS [In reply to]

We have created a workaround to that issue with our package when used with
the MultiTech line of modems (ALL flavors - GSM and CDMA - USB, Serial, or
Ethernet)

Aaron D. Osgood

Streamline Solutions L.L.C

P.O. Box 6115
Falmouth, ME 04105

TEL: 207-781-5561
FAX: 615-704-8067
MOBILE: 207-831-5829
AOsgood [at] Streamline-Solutions
http://www.streamline-solutions.net

Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:rs [at] seastrom]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:22 PM
To: William Herrin
Cc: nanog [at] nanog
Subject: Re: SMS


William Herrin <herrin-nanog [at] dirtside> writes:

> The Multitech Multimodem GPRS model MTCBA-G-EN-F4 has an ethernet
> port. Add a SIM card from your favorite wireless carrier and you can
> send and receive SMS messages via "AT" commands over a TCP socket.
> Problem is, it seizes up or otherwise founders every few weeks and has
> to be power cycled.
>
> Has anyone heard of other products with a good reliability record?

Sorry to be late to add to the hate, but the MacOSX drivers for the
USB flavor (MTCBA-G-U-F4) have issues. Finally got it running on a
standalone Intel mini that we use just for text messages. :-P

-r

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