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mksmith at adhost

Mar 13, 2008, 3:54 PM

Post #26 of 31 (2347 views)
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RE: IPv6 on SOHO routers? [In reply to]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Petri Helenius [mailto:petri [at] helenius]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:49 PM
> To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost
> Cc: Mohacsi Janos; Matthew Moyle-Croft; frnkblk [at] iname;
> nanog [at] merit
> Subject: Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers?
>
> Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
> >
> > It's not that bad. You can attach a v6 address to the 802.11
> interface and the FastEthernet interface, but you can't put one on a
> BVI which means you need two /64's if you want v6 on wireless and
> wired.
> >
> That workaround does not work on the models with the 4 port switch
> integrated. (running 12.4T)
>
> Pete

Check out: http://www.andbobsyouruncle.net and my wiki post on a v6 config. I *think* this has the module you're talking about and is running flash:c870-advipservicesk9-mz.124-15.XY.bin.

Cisco 871W (MPC8272) processor (revision 0x200) with 118784K/12288K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID FHK1109132B
MPC8272 CPU Rev: Part Number 0xC, Mask Number 0x10
5 FastEthernet interfaces
1 802.11 Radio
128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
24576K bytes of processor board System flash (Intel Strataflash)

Regards,

Mike

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mmc at internode

Mar 13, 2008, 4:13 PM

Post #27 of 31 (2346 views)
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Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers? [In reply to]

I have an 877m (no wireless):
Vlan1 has an ipv6 address and and ipv6 nd prefix.
All the devices plugged into the ethernet ports find out about IPv6 just
peachy.

"c870-advipservicesk9-mz.124-15.T1.bin"

(Caveat: I'm running native dual stack over PPPoE because I can make
the LNS do what I want)

MMC

Petri Helenius wrote:
> Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
>>
>> It's not that bad. You can attach a v6 address to the 802.11
>> interface and the FastEthernet interface, but you can't put one on a
>> BVI which means you need two /64's if you want v6 on wireless and
>> wired.
> That workaround does not work on the models with the 4 port switch
> integrated. (running 12.4T)
>
> Pete

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drc at virtualized

Mar 13, 2008, 4:38 PM

Post #28 of 31 (2335 views)
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Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers? [In reply to]

FWIW, I had reason to go over to a local Fry's (www.frys.com) and they
had 2 SOHO routers that claimed to have IPv6 support:

Linksys RVS4000 for $119.99
Linksys WRVS4400 for $209.99

No idea how well they support IPv6...

Regards,
-drc

berni at birkenwald

Mar 13, 2008, 6:20 PM

Post #29 of 31 (2375 views)
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Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers? [In reply to]

David Conrad <drc [at] virtualized> wrote:

> FWIW, I had reason to go over to a local Fry's (www.frys.com) and they
> had 2 SOHO routers that claimed to have IPv6 support:
>
> Linksys RVS4000 for $119.99
> Linksys WRVS4400 for $209.99
>
> No idea how well they support IPv6...

Looked at the manual, the only thing I could find regarding IPv6
connectivity was an option

IP Versions
* IPv4 Only. This option utilizes IPv4 on the Internet and local
network
* Dual-Stack IP. This option utilizes IPv4 over the Internet and IPv4
and IPv6 on the local network.

No support for native connectivity on the WAN side apparently and no
user-defined tunnels, so my guess is 6to4. Odd that you can manually
specify the LAN IPv6 address, but well. Latest firmware readme talks
about 6to4-only as well.

Apple Airport Extreme can do 6to4 and manual proto-41 at least, the only
other commercial SOHO product I could find that (according to the
data-sheet) supports IPv6 is the Buffalo WZR-AG300NH. No hit in the
(very brief) manual or the knowledge base though, so no idea how far
this support is going.

Best bet is still a WRT54G with OpenWRT :-\

Bernhard

frnkblk at iname

Mar 13, 2008, 9:50 PM

Post #30 of 31 (2344 views)
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RE: IPv6 on SOHO routers? [In reply to]

Joel:

Besides the CM and CMTS itself, can the CPE attached to the CM use IPv6 if
the CMTS has the right code to handle IPv6-based DHCP relay? To be clear,
even if the CMTS doesn't have DOCSIS 3.0 support? Standing from a distance,
I don't see why IPv6 on the routing piece of the CMTS has to require a
DOCSIS 3.0 blade and/or CM.

Regards,

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:joelja [at] bogus]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:48 AM
To: Mark Newton
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks [at] vt; frnkblk [at] iname; nanog [at] merit
Subject: Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers?

Mark Newton wrote:

> Those of us who use ADSL or (heaven forbid) Cable are kinda out of luck.
> I haven't yet found ADSL2+ CPE that does IPv6 over PPPoE or PPPoA out
> of the box.

Any cablelebs certified docsis 3.0 CM or CMTS supports ipv6.

Your cable provider will have to upgrade their CMTS (line card swap)
before you can leverage it directly on the cable in a consumer environment.

DSL aggregation routers are challenge where again equipment lifecycle
plays in to whether you're in a position to deploy.

> (Billion in Taiwan has a device which they've stamped an "IPv6 Ready"
> sticker onto, but the IPv6 version of the software hasn't left the
> confines of their lab yet)
>
> As far as I've been able to determine, IPv6 SOHO CPE is largely
> vaporware right now. And lets not even get started on residential
> grade CPE, that doesn't even appear to be on most vendors' radar
> _at all_. If anything useful is going to happen in this space,
> my guess is that it'll be with custom Linux firmware running on
> a LinkSys blob with no vendor support.
>
>
> - mark
>
>
> --
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> newton [at] internode (W)
> Network Engineer Email:
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michael.dillon at bt

Mar 14, 2008, 6:19 AM

Post #31 of 31 (2343 views)
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RE: IPv6 on SOHO routers? [In reply to]

> > Linksys RVS4000 for $119.99
> > Linksys WRVS4400 for $209.99

> Looked at the manual, the only thing I could find regarding
> IPv6 connectivity was an option

You need the January 11 2008 firmware (or newer) to do IPv6.
6to4 works fine but there is a bug with NAT-PT at present.
If you Google for the device name and "IPv6" then you will
find some forum postings discussing IPv6 using these Linksys
boxes.

Note, that this is another example of a device which was
able to add IPv6 through software only, no hardware changes
required. I think that the majority of SOHO devices will
add IPv6 in this way. As soon as the manufacturers realise
that there is a demand for such products, they can very quickly
add IPv6 and ship it, faster than they can update and print
new manuals.

The list on <http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/Broadband_CPE> has been
updated.

--Michael Dillon

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