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Oct 13, 2004, 10:03 AM

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Onboard sound full-duplex ?

Hi there list,

I have an issue with my onboard sound card which is on my VIA KT400 board.
Upon first attempts I got the impression it could not handle full-duplex, so
I quickly added a PCI soundcard to circumvent that. Now however, I plan to
add another (a second) BT878 card and I'm rapidly running out of PCI slots.

I have to put two BT8x8 cards in, two promise 100TX2 are already in place for
the extra harddisks, so I will not have room for two soundcards, only one...

So can anyone either confirm or deny that this card is not suited for full-
duplex mode, or maybe give tips / hints on how to get fullduplex working on
it ? (a definitive Yes/No on the full-duplex mode -availability would
already help a lot).

The card is reported by lspci as this:

00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97
Audio Controller (rev 60)
Subsystem: AOPEN Inc.: Unknown device 01b0
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

Maybe there is another solution I just thought of: If you can make sure that
mythtv _always_ uses Card_1 for playback, there should be no problems,
right ? Can that be done or is that infeasible ? I think that would be
impossible, seen as one cannot predict which card is free at which time,
correct ?

Failing all that, I'd need to convert to a 4-port SATA card (which would also
entail expensive new SATA drives! :-(( ) or any other solution, like a new
mainboard with more slots or other onboard sound or something.
I'd really like to avoid that, if at all possible.

Thanks in advance,
Maarten

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Oct 13, 2004, 10:29 AM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:
> Maybe there is another solution I just thought of: If you can make sure that
> mythtv _always_ uses Card_1 for playback, there should be no problems,
> right ? Can that be done or is that infeasible ? I think that would be
> impossible, seen as one cannot predict which card is free at which time,
> correct ?

Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You specify
the audio device for playback, so you can always play out through the builtin
device.

Tim


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mythtv at ultratux

Oct 13, 2004, 11:11 AM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 19:29, Tim Sailer wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:
> > Maybe there is another solution I just thought of: If you can make sure
> > that mythtv _always_ uses Card_1 for playback, there should be no
> > problems, right ? Can that be done or is that infeasible ? I think that
> > would be impossible, seen as one cannot predict which card is free at
> > which time, correct ?
>
> Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You specify
> the audio device for playback, so you can always play out through the
> builtin device.

With card_1 I meant the first capture card, not the first soundcard. But I
don't really think that makes any difference; you'll have two combos of
<<capture card + connected soundcard>>. And if one of those combos lack
full-duplex, it will not be able to playback (or -worse- it could fsck up the
ongoing recording when selecting it for playback).

> Tim

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ijr at po

Oct 13, 2004, 11:28 AM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 02:11 pm, Maarten wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2004 19:29, Tim Sailer wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:
> > > Maybe there is another solution I just thought of: If you can make
> > > sure that mythtv _always_ uses Card_1 for playback, there should be no
> > > problems, right ? Can that be done or is that infeasible ? I think
> > > that would be impossible, seen as one cannot predict which card is free
> > > at which time, correct ?
> >
> > Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You specify
> > the audio device for playback, so you can always play out through the
> > builtin device.
>
> With card_1 I meant the first capture card, not the first soundcard. But I
> don't really think that makes any difference; you'll have two combos of
> <<capture card + connected soundcard>>. And if one of those combos lack
> full-duplex, it will not be able to playback (or -worse- it could fsck up
> the ongoing recording when selecting it for playback).

Why would you be using multiple soundcards for playback?

Isaac
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Oct 13, 2004, 12:06 PM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 20:28, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2004 02:11 pm, Maarten wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 19:29, Tim Sailer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:

> > > Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You
> > > specify the audio device for playback, so you can always play out
> > > through the builtin device.
> >
> > With card_1 I meant the first capture card, not the first soundcard. But
> > I don't really think that makes any difference; you'll have two combos of
> > <<capture card + connected soundcard>>. And if one of those combos lack
> > full-duplex, it will not be able to playback (or -worse- it could fsck up
> > the ongoing recording when selecting it for playback).
>
> Why would you be using multiple soundcards for playback?

Hm. Okay, so maybe I'm confused, but I need a soundcard each for each BT8x8
capture card, right ? So either both those soundcards need to be able to do
full-duplex (otherwise live TV and playback will have no sound) OR one must
have the possibility within mythtv to declare one card capable of recording
and playback, and the other capable of _only_ recording. (And mythtv reacting
accordingly...) Is this assumption correct so far ?
Note that I'm _not_ talking about PVR250 cards, but about BT8x8 cards.

So I really think this is not an option. Example: a recording on card_1
starts at time T. At time T+10 you select "watch TV", but the only free card
card_2 cannot playback sound simultaneous with recording. So that won't work,
ie. you get no sound then. Isn't that correct ?

So back to the original question: Can anyone confirm or deny that the onboard
sound AC97 function of the VIA KT400 chipset can handle full-duplex or not ?

Maarten

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ijr at po

Oct 13, 2004, 12:27 PM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 03:06 pm, Maarten wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2004 20:28, Isaac Richards wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 02:11 pm, Maarten wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 19:29, Tim Sailer wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You
> > > > specify the audio device for playback, so you can always play out
> > > > through the builtin device.
> > >
> > > With card_1 I meant the first capture card, not the first soundcard.
> > > But I don't really think that makes any difference; you'll have two
> > > combos of <<capture card + connected soundcard>>. And if one of those
> > > combos lack full-duplex, it will not be able to playback (or -worse- it
> > > could fsck up the ongoing recording when selecting it for playback).
> >
> > Why would you be using multiple soundcards for playback?
>
> Hm. Okay, so maybe I'm confused, but I need a soundcard each for each
> BT8x8 capture card, right ? So either both those soundcards need to be
> able to do full-duplex (otherwise live TV and playback will have no sound)
> OR one must have the possibility within mythtv to declare one card capable
> of recording and playback, and the other capable of _only_ recording. (And
> mythtv reacting accordingly...) Is this assumption correct so far ?
> Note that I'm _not_ talking about PVR250 cards, but about BT8x8 cards.

You're not even close to being correct. Why would you be using more than
one sound card for _playback_? Why would you think that the device used to
playback audio is tied in any way to the device used to record audio?

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msmall at eastlink

Oct 13, 2004, 1:00 PM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On October 13, 2004 04:27 pm, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2004 03:06 pm, Maarten wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 20:28, Isaac Richards wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 02:11 pm, Maarten wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 19:29, Tim Sailer wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You
> > > > > specify the audio device for playback, so you can always play out
> > > > > through the builtin device.
> > > >
> > > > With card_1 I meant the first capture card, not the first soundcard.
> > > > But I don't really think that makes any difference; you'll have two
> > > > combos of <<capture card + connected soundcard>>. And if one of
> > > > those combos lack full-duplex, it will not be able to playback (or
> > > > -worse- it could fsck up the ongoing recording when selecting it for
> > > > playback).
> > >
> > > Why would you be using multiple soundcards for playback?
> >
> > Hm. Okay, so maybe I'm confused, but I need a soundcard each for each
> > BT8x8 capture card, right ? So either both those soundcards need to be
> > able to do full-duplex (otherwise live TV and playback will have no
> > sound) OR one must have the possibility within mythtv to declare one card
> > capable of recording and playback, and the other capable of _only_
> > recording. (And mythtv reacting accordingly...) Is this assumption
> > correct so far ? Note that I'm _not_ talking about PVR250 cards, but
> > about BT8x8 cards.
>
> You're not even close to being correct. Why would you be using more than
> one sound card for _playback_? Why would you think that the device used to
> playback audio is tied in any way to the device used to record audio?
>
> Isaac

Lots of confusion here, I'll see if I can clear it up.

(1) Yes, the onboard Via sound IS full duplex.
(2) No it doesn't matter in this case

To capture the audio part of your video stream on a bt878, you don't need a
sound card at all, you can use the bt878 sound capture hardware. Mythtv will
record it directly to the nuv file along with the video source.

When you play back the recording, either using livetv or later watching a
recorded program, you use your soundcard for the output device. It doesn't
matter whether the recording is live or not, the audio is still being read
from the nuv file.

Now if you had cards without audio capture, like my Rainbow Runner G, you
would need a sound card for each capture card. But the bt878 can capture the
sound for you.

Hope this helps,

Mark
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Oct 13, 2004, 1:27 PM

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On Wednesday 13 October 2004 21:27, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2004 03:06 pm, Maarten wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 20:28, Isaac Richards wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 02:11 pm, Maarten wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 19:29, Tim Sailer wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You
> > > > > specify the audio device for playback, so you can always play out
> > > > > through the builtin device.
> > > >
> > > > With card_1 I meant the first capture card, not the first soundcard.
> > > > But I don't really think that makes any difference; you'll have two
> > > > combos of <<capture card + connected soundcard>>. And if one of
> > > > those combos lack full-duplex, it will not be able to playback (or
> > > > -worse- it could fsck up the ongoing recording when selecting it for
> > > > playback).
> > >
> > > Why would you be using multiple soundcards for playback?
> >
> > Hm. Okay, so maybe I'm confused, but I need a soundcard each for each
> > BT8x8 capture card, right ? So either both those soundcards need to be
> > able to do full-duplex (otherwise live TV and playback will have no
> > sound) OR one must have the possibility within mythtv to declare one card
> > capable of recording and playback, and the other capable of _only_
> > recording. (And mythtv reacting accordingly...) Is this assumption
> > correct so far ? Note that I'm _not_ talking about PVR250 cards, but
> > about BT8x8 cards.
>
> You're not even close to being correct. Why would you be using more than
> one sound card for _playback_? Why would you think that the device used to
> playback audio is tied in any way to the device used to record audio?

Hm, okay. Thanks :-) So you're effectively saying that I should define (in
Mythtv Setup) that my good soundcard is /dev/dsp0 and my 'bad' soundcard is /
dev/dsp1 (and connecting my amplifier to /dev/dsp0 output of course) and all
will work fine, despite soundcard 2 (/dev/dsp1) being substandard. Right ?

You ask why I thought that ? I guess I assumed that since the TV cards and
soundcards are tied together (with the little jumper wires) that that also
applied for playback. Wrongly so, I now realise...

If so, that's great news. On to my next problem, tweaking everything like
resolutions and recording filters et al so that one, lightly overclocked,
Athlon 2600+ can indeed cope with two simultaneous BT8x8 recordings...
Which will be a difficult task upon itself, if I read it correctly. ;-)

> Isaac

Thanks,
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bjm at lvcm

Oct 13, 2004, 2:05 PM

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Maarten wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2004 20:28, Isaac Richards wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday 13 October 2004 02:11 pm, Maarten wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday 13 October 2004 19:29, Tim Sailer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:18PM +0200, Maarten wrote:
>
>
>>>>Card 1 being the first capture card or the first sound card? You
>>>>specify the audio device for playback, so you can always play out
>>>>through the builtin device.
>>>
>>>With card_1 I meant the first capture card, not the first soundcard. But
>>>I don't really think that makes any difference; you'll have two combos of
>>><<capture card + connected soundcard>>. And if one of those combos lack
>>>full-duplex, it will not be able to playback (or -worse- it could fsck up
>>>the ongoing recording when selecting it for playback).
>>
>>Why would you be using multiple soundcards for playback?
>
>
> Hm. Okay, so maybe I'm confused,

Apparently...

> but I need a soundcard each for each BT8x8
> capture card, right ? So either both those soundcards need to be able to do
> full-duplex (otherwise live TV and playback will have no sound) OR one must

When you finish watching one recording and go on to watch another,
do you reach around behind the machine and unplug your speakers
from one card and plug them into the other? Of course not.

> have the possibility within mythtv to declare one card capable of recording
> and playback, and the other capable of _only_ recording. (And mythtv reacting
> accordingly...) Is this assumption correct so far ?

It is an impossibility in myth to declare that a different audio
output should be used depending on the input card that was used
at the time of the recording. An assumption to the contrary is
absurd.

The "Audio output device" is declared on the first page of the
frontend Setup->General. It is per host (your ramblings above
and below would suggest that you would never hear audio from
a slave host unless you turned the volume way up in the other
room ;-) and is independent of which type of capture card, which
DSP input is used for recording, or even if there are any capture
cards at all. This would still be the output device if you
used only MythMusic.

That's "> /dev/dsp". "< /dev/dsp", which is a completely different
matter, is configured in "setup" "2. Capture cards". If you
use the same device for both capture and output, there could
be a problem with duplex. If a device is used for recording
only then there should be no problem.

I deliberately do the following for dual tuner bttv systems. I
get a motherboard with whatever crappy onboard audio. I don't
give a rat's ass if it supports full duplex or has crummy output,
I'll never find out, I just want the DSP for audio encoding.

Next, I get a good PCI sound card with whatever features I'd
like such as digital out, DVD digital audio in, etc. I plug
one tuner card into the sound card and one into the onboard.
I configure the sound card as the first card (snd-card-0) and
the onboard as the second (snd-card-1).

I configure the PCI card for all it's inputs (CD, DVD, tuner)
and outputs (analog and digital to a receiver). The onboard
is only needed to capture from /dev/dsp1 so in "alsamixer -c 1"
I only need to mark "Line" for CAPTUR and run up the "Capture"
slider. That's it. Nothing to unmute, no master or PCM levels.
It's just capturing from /dev/dsp1 and nothing else so there
are no duplex issues.

> Note that I'm _not_ talking about PVR250 cards, but about BT8x8 cards.
>
> So I really think this is not an option. Example: a recording on card_1
> starts at time T. At time T+10 you select "watch TV", but the only free card
> card_2 cannot playback sound simultaneous with recording. So that won't work,
> ie. you get no sound then. Isn't that correct ?

No, it dead wrong.

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mythtv at ultratux

Oct 13, 2004, 2:20 PM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 22:00, Mark J. Small wrote:
> On October 13, 2004 04:27 pm, Isaac Richards wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 03:06 pm, Maarten wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 13 October 2004 20:28, Isaac Richards wrote:

> Lots of confusion here, I'll see if I can clear it up.
>
> (1) Yes, the onboard Via sound IS full duplex.

Oh really, it _is_ ? That's good -albeit a bit confusing- news !
When I started with Mythtv back in march I tried with two BT8x8 cards (and the
two sound cards obviously) but due to a broken BT878 card (or tuner issue)
which could not tune well I had to scrap that 2-card idea. But at that time
I found that when using the onboard sound I got sound-less recordings, even
when playing back later with a different setup / card. The little jumper
cables were connected correctly, as were the mixer and capture settings.
But that was a complicated and error-prone setup then, so I must assume I
overlooked something. I'm much more familiar with mythtv now, therefore I
decided to buy a well-supported second card and try the 2-card thingy again.
The PVR 250s are a bit too expensive for me here in europe, and I wanted to
avoid any possible confusion mixing mpeg4 and mpeg2 recordings and/or
transcoding, although people will no doubt point out that there are none. ;-)

> (2) No it doesn't matter in this case

As I gathered from Isaac. Thanks for clearing this up, too.

> To capture the audio part of your video stream on a bt878, you don't need a
> sound card at all, you can use the bt878 sound capture hardware. Mythtv
> will record it directly to the nuv file along with the video source.

Possibly, but for now I use the short jumper cables that connect each BT8x8
card sound output to a respective soundcard input, so I _do_ need two
soundcards. I never tried the <whatsitsname> module to cap the sound
directly off the hardware. I remember reading somewhere that that only works
with BT878 cards as opposed to BT848 cards which I currently run with...

Thanks for your info!
Maarten

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cmisip at insightbb

Oct 14, 2004, 8:14 PM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 12:03, Maarten wrote:
> Hi there list,
>
> I have an issue with my onboard sound card which is on my VIA KT400 board.
> Upon first attempts I got the impression it could not handle full-duplex, so
> I quickly added a PCI soundcard to circumvent that. Now however, I plan to
> add another (a second) BT878 card and I'm rapidly running out of PCI slots.
>
> I have to put two BT8x8 cards in, two promise 100TX2 are already in place for
> the extra harddisks, so I will not have room for two soundcards, only one...
>
Man that is quite a setup. Does that mean you have 2+2+2+2 ide channels
because the VIA has onboard ide0 ide1 ide2 and ide3 already?

> So can anyone either confirm or deny that this card is not suited for full-
> duplex mode, or maybe give tips / hints on how to get fullduplex working on
> it ? (a definitive Yes/No on the full-duplex mode -availability would
> already help a lot).
>

I have the kt400 and my onboard audio is via cmedia. I cannot get it to
work with mythtv at all. The recording volume is too low or I get poor
quality.


> The card is reported by lspci as this:
>
> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97
> Audio Controller (rev 60)
> Subsystem: AOPEN Inc.: Unknown device 01b0
> Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
> I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
> Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
>
> Maybe there is another solution I just thought of: If you can make sure that
> mythtv _always_ uses Card_1 for playback, there should be no problems,
> right ? Can that be done or is that infeasible ? I think that would be
> impossible, seen as one cannot predict which card is free at which time,
> correct ?
>
MythTV will use the sound card that you designate for playback. It is
usually /dev/dsp which is usually a symlink to /dev/dsp0 or your first
sound card device. You can delete /dev/dsp and recreate it to point it
to whatever sound device you want to use. I just use my onboard cmedia
for "all other audio" playback and use a SB Live 5.1 for mythtv
playback. I do have an ATI TV Wonder which has btaudio support so that
I need the SB Live only for the other bt8x8 capture card.

> Failing all that, I'd need to convert to a 4-port SATA card (which would also
> entail expensive new SATA drives! :-(( ) or any other solution, like a new
> mainboard with more slots or other onboard sound or something.
> I'd really like to avoid that, if at all possible.
>

My system has about 590 Gig of storage using 4 IDE drives connected to
onboard raid. No promise ide controllers installed. With the drop in
prices of 250 gig cards, you should be able to achieve a terabyte of
storage just using the onboard raid ide.

If it will help you any, I documented my mythtv install here:
http://cmisip.home.insightbb.com/mythtv.htm

It is ancient (MythTV 0.14 on a 2.4.20 kernel) with datadirect from
zap2it still using xmltv. It works though. The hardware config might
be useful to you.






> Thanks in advance,
> Maarten


gertk at xs4all

Oct 17, 2004, 3:32 PM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

cmisip wrote:

>On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 12:03, Maarten wrote:
>
>
>>Hi there list,
>>
>>I have an issue with my onboard sound card which is on my VIA KT400 board.
>>Upon first attempts I got the impression it could not handle full-duplex, so
>>I quickly added a PCI soundcard to circumvent that. Now however, I plan to
>>add another (a second) BT878 card and I'm rapidly running out of PCI slots.
>>
>>I have to put two BT8x8 cards in, two promise 100TX2 are already in place for
>>the extra harddisks, so I will not have room for two soundcards, only one...
>>
>>
>>
>Man that is quite a setup. Does that mean you have 2+2+2+2 ide channels
>because the VIA has onboard ide0 ide1 ide2 and ide3 already?
>
>
>
Is there any bandwidth left ? :-)

And I thought my backend system was crammed already with 7 IDE harddrives...

Gert


mythtv at ultratux

Oct 18, 2004, 2:37 PM

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On Friday 15 October 2004 05:14, cmisip wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 12:03, Maarten wrote:

> > I have to put two BT8x8 cards in, two promise 100TX2 are already in place
> > for the extra harddisks, so I will not have room for two soundcards, only
> > one...
>
> Man that is quite a setup. Does that mean you have 2+2+2+2 ide channels
> because the VIA has onboard ide0 ide1 ide2 and ide3 already?

No, only 2+2+2, for a total of 5 disks as of now. I could have used the
onboard SATA, but as it is the system is crammed with old 80 GB drives that
were "leftovers" from my main fileserver upgrade. And I'm not going to buy
new 80GB SATA disks obviously, as 160 or 250 GB drives are much more
economical.

> My system has about 590 Gig of storage using 4 IDE drives connected to
> onboard raid. No promise ide controllers installed. With the drop in
> prices of 250 gig cards, you should be able to achieve a terabyte of
> storage just using the onboard raid ide.

My fileserver has 590 GB storage, but not my mythtv box. One has gotta set
priorities... ;)

> If it will help you any, I documented my mythtv install here:
> http://cmisip.home.insightbb.com/mythtv.htm
>
> It is ancient (MythTV 0.14 on a 2.4.20 kernel) with datadirect from
> zap2it still using xmltv. It works though. The hardware config might
> be useful to you.

I'm still at 0.14 too.
There is a lot of useful info. :-) I'll try those quality settings, for
instance.

But I see there that you have a 2-card backend using "dumb" capturecards.
How does that work ? [How] Does your CPU manage that ?

Maarten

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cmisip at insightbb

Oct 26, 2004, 8:00 PM

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Re: Onboard sound full-duplex ? [In reply to]

On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 16:37, Maarten wrote:
> On Friday 15 October 2004 05:14, cmisip wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 12:03, Maarten wrote:
>
> > > I have to put two BT8x8 cards in, two promise 100TX2 are already in place
> > > for the extra harddisks, so I will not have room for two soundcards, only
> > > one...
> >
> > Man that is quite a setup. Does that mean you have 2+2+2+2 ide channels
> > because the VIA has onboard ide0 ide1 ide2 and ide3 already?
>
> No, only 2+2+2, for a total of 5 disks as of now. I could have used the
> onboard SATA, but as it is the system is crammed with old 80 GB drives that
> were "leftovers" from my main fileserver upgrade. And I'm not going to buy
> new 80GB SATA disks obviously, as 160 or 250 GB drives are much more
> economical.
>
> > My system has about 590 Gig of storage using 4 IDE drives connected to
> > onboard raid. No promise ide controllers installed. With the drop in
> > prices of 250 gig cards, you should be able to achieve a terabyte of
> > storage just using the onboard raid ide.
>
> My fileserver has 590 GB storage, but not my mythtv box. One has gotta set
> priorities... ;)
>
> > If it will help you any, I documented my mythtv install here:
> > http://cmisip.home.insightbb.com/mythtv.htm
> >
> > It is ancient (MythTV 0.14 on a 2.4.20 kernel) with datadirect from
> > zap2it still using xmltv. It works though. The hardware config might
> > be useful to you.
>
> I'm still at 0.14 too.
> There is a lot of useful info. :-) I'll try those quality settings, for
> instance.
>
> But I see there that you have a 2-card backend using "dumb" capturecards.
> How does that work ? [How] Does your CPU manage that ?
>
It handles it very well. Hardly any dropped frames at the capture
settings that I set even if I am recording two shows and watching
another recording. It looks very nice on my 32 inch TV.




> Maarten

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