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rbonafied at gmail

Sep 8, 2012, 8:10 PM

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Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24

Hi,

Admittedly my brain is fried. I have a friend whose HD channels were
switched around by comcast. After attempting to do mythfilldatabase and
selecting to update channels without much success, I decided to wipe the
capture card and channel lineups and start from scratch. I don't know
what I'm doing wrong. I followed the steps in the wiki (like I did in
the past). I select fetch listings from mythtv-setup but it gives an
error that hte channel must be scanned first.

We've confirmed it's getting to schedules direct ok because it comes
back with the lineup string. I just don't get why the channels aren't
getting updated.

Other checks we did:
1) We resynced the lineup inside schedules direct
2) We validated the lineup actually had channels on the SD site
3) We attempted both mythtv-setup and mythfilldatabase

MythTV Version : v0.24.1-99-gfdfc989
MythTV Branch : fixes/0.24
Network Protocol : 63
Library API : 0.24.20110505-1
QT Version : 4.7.4
Options compiled in:
linux release using_alsa using_jack using_oss using_pulse
using_pulseoutput using_backend using_bindings_perl
using_bindings_python using_directfb using_dvb using_frontend
using_hdhomerun using_hdpvr using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu
using_lirc using_mheg using_opengl_video using_opengl_vsync using_qtdbus
using_qtwebkit using_v4l using_x11 using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmc_vld
using_xvmcw using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python
using_mythtranscode using_opengl using_vdpau using_ffmpeg_threads
using_live using_mheg

<output snippet>

012-09-08 22:46:51.383 New DB connection, total: 2
2012-09-08 22:46:51.384 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2012-09-08 22:46:51.389 New DB connection, total: 3
2012-09-08 22:46:51.391 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2012-09-08 22:47:09.799 Skipping channel fetch, you need to scan for
channels first.
2012-09-08 22:47:16.222 Skipping channel fetch, you need to scan for
channels first.
2012-09-08 22:47:16.738 Skipping channel fetch, you need to scan for
channels first.
2012-09-08 22:47:17.208 Skipping channel fetch, you need to sc
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Sep 9, 2012, 1:10 PM

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Re: Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24 [In reply to]

On 09/08/2012 11:10 PM, Rick wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Admittedly my brain is fried. I have a friend whose HD channels were
> switched around by comcast. After attempting to do mythfilldatabase and
> selecting to update channels without much success, I decided to wipe the
> capture card and channel lineups and start from scratch. I don't know
> what I'm doing wrong. I followed the steps in the wiki (like I did in
> the past). I select fetch listings from mythtv-setup but it gives an
> error that hte channel must be scanned first.
>
> We've confirmed it's getting to schedules direct ok because it comes
> back with the lineup string. I just don't get why the channels aren't
> getting updated.
>
> Other checks we did:
> 1) We resynced the lineup inside schedules direct
> 2) We validated the lineup actually had channels on the SD site
> 3) We attempted both mythtv-setup and mythfilldatabase
>
> MythTV Version : v0.24.1-99-gfdfc989
> MythTV Branch : fixes/0.24
> Network Protocol : 63
> Library API : 0.24.20110505-1
> QT Version : 4.7.4
> Options compiled in:
> linux release using_alsa using_jack using_oss using_pulse
> using_pulseoutput using_backend using_bindings_perl
> using_bindings_python using_directfb using_dvb using_frontend
> using_hdhomerun using_hdpvr using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu
> using_lirc using_mheg using_opengl_video using_opengl_vsync using_qtdbus
> using_qtwebkit using_v4l using_x11 using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmc_vld
> using_xvmcw using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python
> using_mythtranscode using_opengl using_vdpau using_ffmpeg_threads
> using_live using_mheg
>
>
> <output snippet>
>
> 012-09-08 22:46:51.383 New DB connection, total: 2
> 2012-09-08 22:46:51.384 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
> localhost
> 2012-09-08 22:46:51.389 New DB connection, total: 3
> 2012-09-08 22:46:51.391 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
> localhost
> 2012-09-08 22:47:09.799 Skipping channel fetch, you need to scan for
> channels first.
> 2012-09-08 22:47:16.222 Skipping channel fetch, you need to scan for
> channels first.
> 2012-09-08 22:47:16.738 Skipping channel fetch, you need to scan for
> channels first.
> 2012-09-08 22:47:17.208 Skipping channel fetch, you need to sc

This is because you can't do a mythfilldatabase without any channels.

However, you should be able to get channels by using the Fetch channels
from listings provider option in Connect Inputs in mythtv-setup. If
that doesn't work, you may need to do:

mythfilldatabase --only-update-channels --do-not-filter-new-channels

to get the channels into the connected Video Source, then use:

mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all

to get the data. See, also,
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426
and
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/449416#449416
for details about --dd-grab-all

Mike
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raymond at wagnerrp

Sep 9, 2012, 2:05 PM

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Re: Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24 [In reply to]

On 9/8/2012 23:10, Rick wrote:
> MythTV Version : v0.24.1-99-gfdfc989

MythTV 0.24 cannot fetch channels for an HDHomeRun Prime, and Primes in
general cannot be scanned. There is a convoluted route where you have to
remove the Video Source from the HDHR, tie it to a dummy analog tuner,
fetch the channels, and then remove the dummy tuner and connect the
Video Source back to the HDHR.

Better option, upgrade to 0.25, where MythTV will allow pulling a lineup
directly to a Prime, and natively supports all three tuners on the Prime.
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Sep 9, 2012, 2:36 PM

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Re: Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24 [In reply to]

On 09/09/2012 05:05 PM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
> On 9/8/2012 23:10, Rick wrote:
>> MythTV Version : v0.24.1-99-gfdfc989
>
> MythTV 0.24 cannot fetch channels for an HDHomeRun Prime, and Primes
> in general cannot be scanned. There is a convoluted route where you
> have to remove the Video Source from the HDHR, tie it to a dummy
> analog tuner, fetch the channels, and then remove the dummy tuner and
> connect the Video Source back to the HDHR.
>
> Better option, upgrade to 0.25, where MythTV will allow pulling a
> lineup directly to a Prime, and natively supports all three tuners on
> the Prime.

And note that the approach I mentioned won't work without 0.25--so
Raymond is right, and the proper approach is to upgrade to 0.25.

Mike
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rbonafied at gmail

Sep 9, 2012, 4:13 PM

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Re: Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24 [In reply to]

On 09/09/2012 05:36 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 09/09/2012 05:05 PM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>> On 9/8/2012 23:10, Rick wrote:
>>> MythTV Version : v0.24.1-99-gfdfc989
>>
>> MythTV 0.24 cannot fetch channels for an HDHomeRun Prime, and Primes
>> in general cannot be scanned. There is a convoluted route where you
>> have to remove the Video Source from the HDHR, tie it to a dummy
>> analog tuner, fetch the channels, and then remove the dummy tuner and
>> connect the Video Source back to the HDHR.
>>
>> Better option, upgrade to 0.25, where MythTV will allow pulling a
>> lineup directly to a Prime, and natively supports all three tuners on
>> the Prime.
>
> And note that the approach I mentioned won't work without 0.25--so
> Raymond is right, and the proper approach is to upgrade to 0.25.
>
> Mike
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>
Thank you for your replies. Unfortunately, I won't be able to upgrade
his system to .25 for a little while. What has me perplexed is I
followed the Wiki procedure about 8 months ago before .25 came out and
didn't have the issues I'm having now. I should probably look at the
wiki page edits. I imagine my problem is some of wiki text changed
after .25 came out and eliminated the need for the extra steps.

Rick
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wambs at verizon

Sep 9, 2012, 5:48 PM

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Re: Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24 [In reply to]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:13 PM
> To: Discussion about MythTV
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Why can't I get channels registered for the
> hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24
>
> On 09/09/2012 05:36 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> > On 09/09/2012 05:05 PM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
> >> On 9/8/2012 23:10, Rick wrote:
> >>> MythTV Version : v0.24.1-99-gfdfc989
> >>
> >> MythTV 0.24 cannot fetch channels for an HDHomeRun Prime, and Primes
> >> in general cannot be scanned. There is a convoluted route where you
> >> have to remove the Video Source from the HDHR, tie it to a dummy
> >> analog tuner, fetch the channels, and then remove the dummy tuner and
> >> connect the Video Source back to the HDHR.
> >>
> >> Better option, upgrade to 0.25, where MythTV will allow pulling a
> >> lineup directly to a Prime, and natively supports all three tuners on
> >> the Prime.
> >
> > And note that the approach I mentioned won't work without 0.25--so
> > Raymond is right, and the proper approach is to upgrade to 0.25.
> >
> > Mike
> > _______________________________________________
> > mythtv-users mailing list
> > mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> > http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> >
> Thank you for your replies. Unfortunately, I won't be able to upgrade his
system
> to .25 for a little while. What has me perplexed is I followed the Wiki
procedure
> about 8 months ago before .25 came out and didn't have the issues I'm
having
> now. I should probably look at the wiki page edits. I imagine my problem
is
> some of wiki text changed after .25 came out and eliminated the need for
the
> extra steps.
>
> Rick
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> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

Hi Rick,

Your correct about Wiki procedure changing, and no link to the old one for
folks still on 0.24.
Someone had the bad idea of removing the procedure for 0.24 MythTV Prime
users. I added another Prime
to my system and found that the procedure no longer worked as well. I had to
go in directly to the
Db and setup the tuners myself. All is working well. I didn't want to
upgrade at the time (.25 was not stable enough) and
didn't like the idea of being pushed into an upgrade. I will upgrade
probably around Dec when I have more time.

Kevin

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ylee at pobox

Sep 9, 2012, 6:41 PM

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Re: Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24 [In reply to]

Raymond Wagner <raymond [at] wagnerrp> says:
> MythTV 0.24 cannot fetch channels for an HDHomeRun Prime, and Primes in
> general cannot be scanned. There is a convoluted route where you have to
> remove the Video Source from the HDHR, tie it to a dummy analog tuner,
> fetch the channels, and then remove the dummy tuner and connect the
> Video Source back to the HDHR.

The directions for 0.24 Raymond refers to are available at
<URL:http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Configuring_MythTV_for_the_HDHomeRun_Prime&oldid=54982>.

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rbonafied at gmail

Sep 14, 2012, 3:15 PM

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Re: Why can't I get channels registered for the hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24 [In reply to]

On 09/09/2012 08:48 PM, Kevin Wambsganz wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv [mailto:mythtv-users-
>> bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Rick
>> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:13 PM
>> To: Discussion about MythTV
>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Why can't I get channels registered for the
>> hdhomerun prime - mythtv .24
>>
>> On 09/09/2012 05:36 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>>> On 09/09/2012 05:05 PM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>>>> On 9/8/2012 23:10, Rick wrote:
>>>>> MythTV Version : v0.24.1-99-gfdfc989
>>>>
>>>> MythTV 0.24 cannot fetch channels for an HDHomeRun Prime, and Primes
>>>> in general cannot be scanned. There is a convoluted route where you
>>>> have to remove the Video Source from the HDHR, tie it to a dummy
>>>> analog tuner, fetch the channels, and then remove the dummy tuner and
>>>> connect the Video Source back to the HDHR.
>>>>
>>>> Better option, upgrade to 0.25, where MythTV will allow pulling a
>>>> lineup directly to a Prime, and natively supports all three tuners on
>>>> the Prime.
>>>
>>> And note that the approach I mentioned won't work without 0.25--so
>>> Raymond is right, and the proper approach is to upgrade to 0.25.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> mythtv-users mailing list
>>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>>> http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>
>> Thank you for your replies. Unfortunately, I won't be able to upgrade his
> system
>> to .25 for a little while. What has me perplexed is I followed the Wiki
> procedure
>> about 8 months ago before .25 came out and didn't have the issues I'm
> having
>> now. I should probably look at the wiki page edits. I imagine my problem
> is
>> some of wiki text changed after .25 came out and eliminated the need for
> the
>> extra steps.
>>
>> Rick
>> _______________________________________________
>> mythtv-users mailing list
>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>> http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Your correct about Wiki procedure changing, and no link to the old one for
> folks still on 0.24.
> Someone had the bad idea of removing the procedure for 0.24 MythTV Prime
> users. I added another Prime
> to my system and found that the procedure no longer worked as well. I had to
> go in directly to the
> Db and setup the tuners myself. All is working well. I didn't want to
> upgrade at the time (.25 was not stable enough) and
> didn't like the idea of being pushed into an upgrade. I will upgrade
> probably around Dec when I have more time.
>
> Kevin
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>

My personal system is at .25 and have noticed it to be less stable than
.24 . I can't put my finger on it or reproduce it reliably so for now I
don't think I can offer much to a ticket. I've taken to rebooting the
mythbackend each night. The frontend will be playing along just fine
and then exit out randomly in the middle of playing. I don't ever see
any errors in the log when this happens. For now, my friend will stay
on .24 . I think I just hijacked my own thread! :)

Rick

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