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maisel at lobo

Aug 19, 2012, 12:44 AM

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HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another?

Just wondering where I went wrong.

If a program is recording on one channel, for some reason I can't change
to another, even though it's a dual tuner.
Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently being recorded.

I have it setup according to the documentation on MythTV wiki regarding
the HomeRun Dual tuner.

Thanks!

Lee

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sgtbundy at gmail

Aug 19, 2012, 4:56 AM

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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

On 19/08/2012 5:44 PM, Lee Maisel wrote:
> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>
> If a program is recording on one channel, for some reason I can't
> change to another, even though it's a dual tuner.
> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently being recorded.
>
> I have it setup according to the documentation on MythTV wiki
> regarding the HomeRun Dual tuner.

If you have configured virtual tuners and your LiveTV session happens to
land on a virtual that shares the same physical, you can't change to
anything other than what that tuner is locked into. You need to change
tuner using "C" (default key) and switch to another tuner.


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joe at thefrys

Aug 19, 2012, 11:36 AM

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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

>
> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>>
>> If a program is recording on one channel, for some reason I can't change
>> to another, even though it's a dual tuner.
>> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently being recorded.
>>
>> I have it setup according to the documentation on MythTV wiki regarding
>> the HomeRun Dual tuner.
>>
>
> If you have configured virtual tuners and your LiveTV session happens to
> land on a virtual that shares the same physical, you can't change to
> anything other than what that tuner is locked into. You need to change
> tuner using "C" (default key) and switch to another tuner.
>
>
There are various settings you can make to set the priority for
recording/live tv on your tuners as well. I have 5 tuners, they are set
with recording priority from 1-5 and live tv priority from 5-1... so
essentially if I go into live TV it uses tuner 5, and my recordings try to
use the lowest numbered tuner available. With just 2 tuners, it's harder
because often the scheduler will need to make use of the second tuner for
various reasons.


nick.rout at gmail

Aug 19, 2012, 2:23 PM

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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Lee Maisel <maisel [at] lobo> wrote:
> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>
> If a program is recording on one channel, for some reason I can't change to
> another, even though it's a dual tuner.
> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently being recorded.
>
> I have it setup according to the documentation on MythTV wiki regarding the
> HomeRun Dual tuner.
>
> Thanks!

You forget some important info, like which version of mythtv you are
using - I say this becasue the behaviour changed from 0.24-->0.25
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maisel at lobo

Aug 19, 2012, 7:34 PM

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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

.24

And sometimes, when I go to change channels (using up and down) from a
show that's currently recording, I only see 2 or 3 channels!

Lee


Nick Rout wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Lee Maisel <maisel [at] lobo> wrote:
>
>> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>>
>> If a program is recording on one channel, for some reason I can't change to
>> another, even though it's a dual tuner.
>> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently being recorded.
>>
>> I have it setup according to the documentation on MythTV wiki regarding the
>> HomeRun Dual tuner.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> You forget some important info, like which version of mythtv you are
> using - I say this becasue the behaviour changed from 0.24-->0.25
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joe at thefrys

Aug 19, 2012, 8:09 PM

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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

>
> .24
>
> And sometimes, when I go to change channels (using up and down) from a
> show that's currently recording, I only see 2 or 3 channels!
>
>
With 2 tuners your going to run into times that you start livetv on the
tuner currently being used for recording. Press the 'c' button, or press
the 'm' (menu) buttton and select Source > Switch Input

0.25 will automatically switch tuners for you, when one is free, if you
choose a channel not available on your current tuner. At least I know it
does from the program guide, I believe it does it in browse mode as well
(using up and down to see whats on each channel and pressing select to
change). I don't think it will using CH+/CH-.


maisel at lobo

Aug 31, 2012, 8:38 PM

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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

Hi Joseph!

Can you please elaborate on how and where I would set that up? I now
have 3 HD HomeRun Dual tuners. (6 tuners)

Thanks!

Lee


Joseph Fry wrote:
>
> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>
> If a program is recording on one channel, for some reason I
> can't change to another, even though it's a dual tuner.
> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently being
> recorded.
>
> I have it setup according to the documentation on MythTV wiki
> regarding the HomeRun Dual tuner.
>
>
> If you have configured virtual tuners and your LiveTV session
> happens to land on a virtual that shares the same physical, you
> can't change to anything other than what that tuner is locked
> into. You need to change tuner using "C" (default key) and switch
> to another tuner.
>
>
> There are various settings you can make to set the priority for
> recording/live tv on your tuners as well. I have 5 tuners, they are
> set with recording priority from 1-5 and live tv priority from 5-1...
> so essentially if I go into live TV it uses tuner 5, and my recordings
> try to use the lowest numbered tuner available. With just 2 tuners,
> it's harder because often the scheduler will need to make use of the
> second tuner for various reasons.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>

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joe at thefrys

Aug 31, 2012, 9:56 PM

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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Lee Maisel <maisel [at] lobo> wrote:

> Hi Joseph!
>
> Can you please elaborate on how and where I would set that up? I now have
> 3 HD HomeRun Dual tuners. (6 tuners)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee
>
>
> Joseph Fry wrote:
>
>>
>> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>>
>> If a program is recording on one channel, for some reason I
>> can't change to another, even though it's a dual tuner.
>> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently being
>> recorded.
>>
>> I have it setup according to the documentation on MythTV wiki
>> regarding the HomeRun Dual tuner.
>>
>>
>> If you have configured virtual tuners and your LiveTV session
>> happens to land on a virtual that shares the same physical, you
>> can't change to anything other than what that tuner is locked
>> into. You need to change tuner using "C" (default key) and switch
>> to another tuner.
>>
>>
>> There are various settings you can make to set the priority for
>> recording/live tv on your tuners as well. I have 5 tuners, they are set
>> with recording priority from 1-5 and live tv priority from 5-1... so
>> essentially if I go into live TV it uses tuner 5, and my recordings try to
>> use the lowest numbered tuner available. With just 2 tuners, it's harder
>> because often the scheduler will need to make use of the second tuner for
>> various reasons.
>>
>>
Please avoid top posting (put your reply's below the quoted content).

Anyway, in mythtv-setup, when you are mapping sources to tuners, there is
an option to set the recording priority and the livetv priority. I'm
pretty sure it was there in 0.24?

Essentially when entering livetv it will choose the tuner with the lowest
livetv priority; if you set the livetv priority to 0 that tuner will not be
available when entering livetv. The same goes for the recording priority.

Are you running 3 HDHR Prime's with cable cards, or are you using QAM, or
ATSC? I only ask because if you have 6 physical tuners, you could have 2
or 3 times that with virtual tuners (unless they are Prime's with CC's),
that many tuners may influence the way I'd set the priorities, so I won't
make any recommendations.


maisel at lobo

Aug 31, 2012, 10:52 PM

Post #9 of 11 (582 views)
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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

Joseph Fry wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Lee Maisel <maisel [at] lobo
> <mailto:maisel [at] lobo>> wrote:
>
> Hi Joseph!
>
> Can you please elaborate on how and where I would set that up? I
> now have 3 HD HomeRun Dual tuners. (6 tuners)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee
>
>
> Joseph Fry wrote:
>
>
> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>
> If a program is recording on one channel, for some
> reason I
> can't change to another, even though it's a dual tuner.
> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently
> being
> recorded.
>
> I have it setup according to the documentation on
> MythTV wiki
> regarding the HomeRun Dual tuner.
>
>
> If you have configured virtual tuners and your LiveTV session
> happens to land on a virtual that shares the same
> physical, you
> can't change to anything other than what that tuner is locked
> into. You need to change tuner using "C" (default key) and
> switch
> to another tuner.
>
>
> There are various settings you can make to set the priority
> for recording/live tv on your tuners as well. I have 5
> tuners, they are set with recording priority from 1-5 and live
> tv priority from 5-1... so essentially if I go into live TV it
> uses tuner 5, and my recordings try to use the lowest numbered
> tuner available. With just 2 tuners, it's harder because
> often the scheduler will need to make use of the second tuner
> for various reasons.
>
>
> Please avoid top posting (put your reply's below the quoted content).
>
> Anyway, in mythtv-setup, when you are mapping sources to tuners, there
> is an option to set the recording priority and the livetv priority.
> I'm pretty sure it was there in 0.24?
>
> Essentially when entering livetv it will choose the tuner with the
> lowest livetv priority; if you set the livetv priority to 0 that tuner
> will not be available when entering livetv. The same goes for the
> recording priority.
>
> Are you running 3 HDHR Prime's with cable cards, or are you using QAM,
> or ATSC? I only ask because if you have 6 physical tuners, you could
> have 2 or 3 times that with virtual tuners (unless they are Prime's
> with CC's), that many tuners may influence the way I'd set the
> priorities, so I won't make any recommendations.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
Thanks Joseph!

I am using the tuners with OTA programming only. These are the non
cable tuners.
The only place so far I can find a priority setting is under inputs,
input priority.
I understand this to be a way to choose a better capture source over a
worse one, but I may be wrong.

Thanks!

Lee

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joe at thefrys

Aug 31, 2012, 11:17 PM

Post #10 of 11 (581 views)
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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

>
>
>> Hi Joseph!
>>
>> Can you please elaborate on how and where I would set that up? I
>> now have 3 HD HomeRun Dual tuners. (6 tuners)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>> Joseph Fry wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>>
>> If a program is recording on one channel, for some
>> reason I
>> can't change to another, even though it's a dual tuner.
>> Change channel, it jumps back to the program currently
>> being
>> recorded.
>>
>> I have it setup according to the documentation on
>> MythTV wiki
>> regarding the HomeRun Dual tuner.
>>
>>
>> If you have configured virtual tuners and your LiveTV session
>> happens to land on a virtual that shares the same
>> physical, you
>> can't change to anything other than what that tuner is locked
>> into. You need to change tuner using "C" (default key) and
>> switch
>> to another tuner.
>>
>>
>> There are various settings you can make to set the priority
>> for recording/live tv on your tuners as well. I have 5
>> tuners, they are set with recording priority from 1-5 and live
>> tv priority from 5-1... so essentially if I go into live TV it
>> uses tuner 5, and my recordings try to use the lowest numbered
>> tuner available. With just 2 tuners, it's harder because
>> often the scheduler will need to make use of the second tuner
>> for various reasons.
>>
>>
>> Please avoid top posting (put your reply's below the quoted content).
>> Anyway, in mythtv-setup, when you are mapping sources to tuners, there is
>> an option to set the recording priority and the livetv priority. I'm
>> pretty sure it was there in 0.24?
>>
>> Essentially when entering livetv it will choose the tuner with the lowest
>> livetv priority; if you set the livetv priority to 0 that tuner will not be
>> available when entering livetv. The same goes for the recording priority.
>>
>> Are you running 3 HDHR Prime's with cable cards, or are you using QAM, or
>> ATSC? I only ask because if you have 6 physical tuners, you could have 2
>> or 3 times that with virtual tuners (unless they are Prime's with CC's),
>> that many tuners may influence the way I'd set the priorities, so I won't
>> make any recommendations.
>>
>> I am using the tuners with OTA programming only. These are the non cable
> tuners.
> The only place so far I can find a priority setting is under inputs, input
> priority.
> I understand this to be a way to choose a better capture source over a
> worse one, but I may be wrong.
>
>
First of all, open each tuner in mythtv-setup and set the number of
virtual tuners to 2 or 3... this way if you record 2 subchannels of the
same channel at the same time, you will only use one physical tuner. On
your TV you would see this as 47-1, 47-2, 47-3 for example.

I guess recording/livetv priority was one of the new features in 0.25. In
0.24, you can set each tuner's priority and in the settings menu on the
frontend you will find settings talking about livetv and scheduling (been a
while)... but one of those settings will make live tv use the lowest
priority tuner available; which with that many tuners, will likely not be
used by the scheduler if you set the priorities in the section you
described above.

I HIGHLY recommend upgrading to 0.25 or even 0.26... there are issues, but
I am much happier with 0.25.


maisel at lobo

Sep 1, 2012, 1:54 PM

Post #11 of 11 (584 views)
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Re: HomeRun Dual when recording ONE chan can't change to another? [In reply to]

Joseph Fry wrote:
>
>
> Hi Joseph!
>
> Can you please elaborate on how and where I would set that
> up? I
> now have 3 HD HomeRun Dual tuners. (6 tuners)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lee
>
>
> Joseph Fry wrote:
>
>
> Just wondering where I went wrong.
>
> If a program is recording on one channel, for some
> reason I
> can't change to another, even though it's a
> dual tuner.
> Change channel, it jumps back to the program
> currently
> being
> recorded.
>
> I have it setup according to the documentation on
> MythTV wiki
> regarding the HomeRun Dual tuner.
>
>
> If you have configured virtual tuners and your
> LiveTV session
> happens to land on a virtual that shares the same
> physical, you
> can't change to anything other than what that
> tuner is locked
> into. You need to change tuner using "C" (default
> key) and
> switch
> to another tuner.
>
>
> There are various settings you can make to set the
> priority
> for recording/live tv on your tuners as well. I have 5
> tuners, they are set with recording priority from 1-5
> and live
> tv priority from 5-1... so essentially if I go into
> live TV it
> uses tuner 5, and my recordings try to use the lowest
> numbered
> tuner available. With just 2 tuners, it's harder because
> often the scheduler will need to make use of the
> second tuner
> for various reasons.
>
>
> Please avoid top posting (put your reply's below the quoted
> content).
> Anyway, in mythtv-setup, when you are mapping sources to
> tuners, there is an option to set the recording priority and
> the livetv priority. I'm pretty sure it was there in 0.24?
>
> Essentially when entering livetv it will choose the tuner with
> the lowest livetv priority; if you set the livetv priority to
> 0 that tuner will not be available when entering livetv. The
> same goes for the recording priority.
>
> Are you running 3 HDHR Prime's with cable cards, or are you
> using QAM, or ATSC? I only ask because if you have 6 physical
> tuners, you could have 2 or 3 times that with virtual tuners
> (unless they are Prime's with CC's), that many tuners may
> influence the way I'd set the priorities, so I won't make any
> recommendations.
>
> I am using the tuners with OTA programming only. These are the
> non cable tuners.
> The only place so far I can find a priority setting is under
> inputs, input priority.
> I understand this to be a way to choose a better capture source
> over a worse one, but I may be wrong.
>
>
> First of all, open each tuner in mythtv-setup and set the number of
> virtual tuners to 2 or 3... this way if you record 2 subchannels of
> the same channel at the same time, you will only use one physical
> tuner. On your TV you would see this as 47-1, 47-2, 47-3 for example.
>
> I guess recording/livetv priority was one of the new features in 0.25.
> In 0.24, you can set each tuner's priority and in the settings menu
> on the frontend you will find settings talking about livetv and
> scheduling (been a while)... but one of those settings will make live
> tv use the lowest priority tuner available; which with that many
> tuners, will likely not be used by the scheduler if you set the
> priorities in the section you described above.
>
> I HIGHLY recommend upgrading to 0.25 or even 0.26... there are issues,
> but I am much happier with 0.25.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
Thanks Joseph!

I will probably just end up going to .25 anyhow, but I hate to do so,
because it was hell getting everything working the way I want with my
hardware, hulu, etc.
I also want to find a way to enable voice menus for my wife.

Thanks!

Lee
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