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gnassas at mac

Jun 8, 2012, 11:04 PM

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Hi, two things about debian packages:

One, Christian has had to change his domain from "debian-multimedia.org" to "deb-multimedia.org" because the debian people don't appreciate their name embedded in an unofficial site. I can't update the wiki download page because it's locked. The old domain will be active until his registration for it runs out later this year and I think he's sticking with the full word in the name of the site so it's just the domain that changes.

Two, does anyone know about the status of the deb packaging files in the packaging repository. Are they safe for use on a stable production system? Apologies if this has been discussed here but I missed it and there doesn't appear to be a readme anywhere.

- George
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alan at chandlerfamily

Jun 8, 2012, 11:40 PM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

On 09/06/12 07:04, George Nassas wrote:
> Hi, two things about debian packages:
>
> One, Christian has had to change his domain from "debian-multimedia.org" to "deb-multimedia.org" because the debian people don't appreciate their name embedded in an unofficial site. I can't update the wiki download page because it's locked. The old domain will be active until his registration for it runs out later this year and I think he's sticking with the full word in the name of the site so it's just the domain that changes.
>
> Two, does anyone know about the status of the deb packaging files in the packaging repository. Are they safe for use on a stable production system? Apologies if this has been discussed here but I missed it and there doesn't appear to be a readme anywhere.
>

I am using 0.25 from the squeeze-backports from deb-multimedia.org and
they seem almost OK. So far I have had to change
/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend because I think its using --logpath as though
its --logfile and I wasn't getting any log files, and of course I have
had to configure mythweb to fit in with my urls that I wanted.

I have had a separate problem with my tuners, but I don't think that is
related to the packaging of mythtv, rather changing the tuner. In the
last 30 minutes I just received a new tuner and am currently in the
process of setting it up.

I am not entirely sure what you mean by "safe on a production system".
The rest of the system is my web server/mail server/firewall/ WAN
router/dhcp server, and that has been uneffected by mythtv OTHER THAN
the need to reboot frequently because the hardware in the tuners need to
be reset. The new pinnicle usb stick I have just got to replace the
other tuner is external - so I am hoping if that ever locks up that all
I need to do is unplug it and plug it back in.

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soundart at gmx

Jun 9, 2012, 5:48 AM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

George Nassas <gnassas [at] mac> writes:

> Two, does anyone know about the status of the deb packaging files in
> the packaging repository. Are they safe for use on a stable production
> system? Apologies if this has been discussed here but I missed it and
> there doesn't appear to be a readme anywhere.

I am using them(mythtv and others packages) for some years and did not
have unusual problems.

Recently (1-2 years)I think the multimedia team from 'official' debian
started playing tricks (or have the same package names in 'official'
debian too) resulting in getting the wrong packages from time to
time. Basically you did an upgrade and could not play DVDs with vlc
afterwards.

dist-upgrades have become more complex too, the best approach for me was
recently to backup /etc, remove all marillat packages, dist-upgrade and
install marillat packages afterwards.

I think both parties have talked and aligned their versioning approaches
recently so I hope these issues will not happen frequently in the
future.

have fun!

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gnassas at mac

Jun 9, 2012, 7:38 AM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

Hi, thanks for both replies. I guess I was too vague, sorry, when I said package repository. I meant the one here:

https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/master/deb

I also use Christian's packages and they're great but the box is on debian squeeze and it seems like it's taking a while for 0.25 to show up in stable. I saw his message about how his squeeze rep is going to stay on 0.24 and 0.25 will appear in squeeze-backports but it's not there yet.

So, I'm wondering if it might be time to start building my own debs but before I try I'm curious about people's experiences with those git control files etc.

On 2012-06-09, at 2:40 AM, Alan Chandler wrote:

> I am not entirely sure what you mean by "safe on a production system".

The system has to deliver high WAF even though it's not for a wife. My ass would be grass if there was ever an interruption in the supply of Spanish soaps!

- George
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alan at chandlerfamily

Jun 9, 2012, 8:18 AM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

On 09/06/12 15:38, George Nassas wrote:
> ... 0.25 will appear in squeeze-backports but it's not there yet.
>

It is, I'm using it.

I have
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze-backports main
in my sources.lst

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alan at chandlerfamily

Jun 9, 2012, 8:21 AM

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On 09/06/12 16:18, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On 09/06/12 15:38, George Nassas wrote:
>> ... 0.25 will appear in squeeze-backports but it's not there yet.
>>
>
> It is, I'm using it.
>
> I have
> deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze-backports main
> in my sources.lst
>
I'll just add that I have debian unstable on my desktop with the
frontend 0.25 from and this is talking to the backend just fine.

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gnassas at mac

Jun 9, 2012, 9:05 AM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

On 2012-06-09, at 11:18 AM, Alan Chandler wrote:

> On 09/06/12 15:38, George Nassas wrote:
>> ... 0.25 will appear in squeeze-backports but it's not there yet.
>>
> It is, I'm using it.

??? What the heck ??? How bizarre.

Well, it seems that my local mirrors for squeeze-backports haven't been updated since early April. I use the two Canadian ones. I thought "mirror" meant you mirrored the source site but I guess not.

Thanks for helping me track this down.

- George

fairlane at springcom

Jun 12, 2012, 11:20 AM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

deb-multimedia packages don't always play nice with debian main packages. I've had the vlc issue in the past, and had to uninstall some deb-multimedia packages to get it back.

The safest course of action is to leave deb-multimedia out of your sources.list and only enable it when you HAVE to.
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gnassas at mac

Jun 12, 2012, 7:36 PM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

On 2012-06-12, at 2:20 PM, Mark wrote:

> deb-multimedia packages don't always play nice with debian main packages. I've had the vlc issue in the past, and had to uninstall some deb-multimedia packages to get it back.

Interesting. That site has always been good to me but I only use it for myth and the box doesn't do anything else.

So I take it *nobody* uses the deb scripts from myth's git repository? Hmph. I think I'll set up a virtual machine and give them a go.

- George

thomas at mashos

Jun 12, 2012, 9:49 PM

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Re: debian packages [In reply to]

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM, George Nassas <gnassas [at] mac> wrote:
> On 2012-06-12, at 2:20 PM, Mark wrote:
>
> deb-multimedia packages don't always play nice with debian main packages.
> �I've had the vlc issue in the past, and had to uninstall some
> deb-multimedia packages to get it back.
>
>
> Interesting. That site has always been good to me but I only use it for myth
> and the box doesn't do anything else.
>
> So I take it *nobody* uses the deb scripts from myth's git repository? Hmph.
> I think I'll set up a virtual machine and give them a go.
>
> - George
>
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The deb packages in the git mythtv repository are maintained by the
Mythbuntu team and used in our building process for the Ubuntu
repositories and for the daily builds. AFAIK, there was some testing
and fixing done on it as well for debian.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos
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