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adeffs.mythtv at gmail

Apr 26, 2012, 8:17 AM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
Can someone that understands how the new MythMusic works update the
Wiki? It's still showing the old 0.24 screens and usage.

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Apr 29, 2012, 5:03 AM

Post #77 of 102 (3000 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:

Hi Eric,

Nice to see someone doing something positive for a change :) It's
against my better judgement but only because I'm in a good mood I
thought I'd try to address some of these issues :)

>
> 1. There should be a top level menu entry called Path which can
> browse music by filesystem path.

The attached patch adds a Directory node to the playlist tree that
allows you to browse your music by filesystem path. It works exactly
like the existing nodes in the playlist editor so selecting a node will
either add or replace all the tracks below the node to the active
playlist. I've only done a quick test to see if it compiles and works as
expected so it needs someone to do a more thorough test. If someone
wants to give it a try let me know and I will quickly knock up a
mm_directory.png icon which is required for the gallery view. It would
be even better if someone with more artistic skill than me could come up
with some replacements for all the gallery view icons.

> 2. There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
> default binding of "3"

There is a move to get away from having to remember cryptic key presses
to do things that only work on one screen. The preferred method is to
use the menu to switch views. The old 'Play Music' and 'Show music
playlists' jump points still work AFAIK but I wouldn't bind one of them
to the '3' key because jumppoints are global and are executed before any
other action.

It would be easy to add some extra key bindings to the 'Music' context
to switch views. In main.cpp setupKeys() add

REG_KEY("Music", "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE",
QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP("MythControls",
"Switch to the playlist editor tree view"), "3");


and then in the MusicCommon::keypressHandler() add something like

if (action == "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE" && m_currentView !=
MV_PLAYLISTEDITORTREE)
switchView(MV_PLAYLISTEDITORTREE);

a more generic method would be to use the existing NEXTVIEW and PREVVIEW
key bindings to cycle through the views but I seem to remember there
being a clash with the default NEXTTRACK and PREVTRACK key bindings.

> 3. "All Tracks" should be a selectable object to add all tracks to the playlist

If you want to add all your tracks to the playlist you can use the menu
'Quick Playlists->All Tracks. The attached (included with the directory
browsing patch) also allows you to select the 'All Tracks' nodes to add
all the tracks below the current node to the playlist. I also made it do
the same if you select any of the 'Artists', 'Albums', 'Genres' ...
nodes as well for consistency. Untested so needs someone to give it a spin.

> 4. Any list longer than ~100 entries should automatically subdivide
> into sublists

I hated the split nodes which is why I didn't add them back. I know
opinion is split but using the search is far quicker at finding what you
want even when using a remote. The last time this was debated there was
some good ideas for making scrolling quicker the attached implements
the simplest of those ideas allowing you to press '1' to jump to a
position approximately 10% into the list '2' would move 20% and so on. I
like this because it is generic and will work in all button lists. For
simplicity I've used the existing number keybindings I don't know if the
powers that be would prefer they where new keybindings like SCROLL10,
SCROLL20 or not. I can't see anyone wanting to use anything but the
number keys but 'there's nowt so queer as folk' as we say in this part
of the world :)
> 5. MythMusic should start on playlist tree view, rather than current playlist
>

I'm confused! We have two menu entries on the main menu one is 'Play
Music' the other is "Select Music' each one shows the relevant view when
selected why would you want that any other way? Maybe this is a menu
theme issue I use the classic layout which groups all the music menu
entries on the same menu. You can always switch to any view from the
popup menu available on every music view screen.

> Anything else?
>
> Eric


Paul H.
Attachments: add_directory_browsing.diff (8.46 KB)
  buttonlist_quick_scroll.diff (0.71 KB)


mtdean at thirdcontact

Apr 29, 2012, 5:28 AM

Post #78 of 102 (3005 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 04/29/2012 08:03 AM, Paul Harrison wrote:
> On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:
>> 2. There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
>> default binding of "3"
> There is a move to get away from having to remember cryptic key presses
> to do things that only work on one screen. The preferred method is to
> use the menu to switch views. The old 'Play Music' and 'Show music
> playlists' jump points still work AFAIK but I wouldn't bind one of them
> to the '3' key because jumppoints are global and are executed before any
> other action.
>
> It would be easy to add some extra key bindings to the 'Music' context
> to switch views. In main.cpp setupKeys() add
>
> REG_KEY("Music", "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE",
> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP("MythControls",
> "Switch to the playlist editor tree view"), "3");
>
>
> and then in the MusicCommon::keypressHandler() add something like
>
> if (action == "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE"&& m_currentView !=
> MV_PLAYLISTEDITORTREE)
> switchView(MV_PLAYLISTEDITORTREE);
>
> a more generic method would be to use the existing NEXTVIEW and PREVVIEW
> key bindings to cycle through the views but I seem to remember there
> being a clash with the default NEXTTRACK and PREVTRACK key bindings.
>

And, FWIW, adding new keybindings (or using appropriately-named ones
that already exist in another context) specifically for a function like
this is perfectly acceptable. It's not that we want to force you to use
the menu, but that we want to make functionality available through the
menu for those who don't define certain bindings or who have limited
remotes without sufficient buttons, and we want to ensure you--and not
hard-coded key definitions--specify the key to use.

Mike
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lists at glidos

Apr 29, 2012, 6:41 AM

Post #79 of 102 (2999 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 29/04/2012 13:03, Paul Harrison wrote:
> On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:
>> 1. There should be a top level menu entry called Path which can
>> browse music by filesystem path.
>
> The attached patch adds a Directory node to the playlist tree that
> allows you to browse your music by filesystem path. It works exactly
> like the existing nodes in the playlist editor so selecting a node will
> either add or replace all the tracks below the node to the active
> playlist. I've only done a quick test to see if it compiles and works as
> expected so it needs someone to do a more thorough test. If someone
> wants to give it a try let me know and I will quickly knock up a
> mm_directory.png icon which is required for the gallery view. It would
> be even better if someone with more artistic skill than me could come up
> with some replacements for all the gallery view icons.

Brilliant work. Just that one alone should make a huge difference. Great
so see someone take on these changes.

P.
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eric at lisaneric

Apr 29, 2012, 2:16 PM

Post #80 of 102 (2989 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Paul Harrison <mythtv [at] sky> wrote:
> On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Nice to see someone doing something positive for a change :) It's
> against my better judgement but only because I'm in a good mood I
> thought I'd try to address some of these issues :)

Thanks, Paul.

>> 2.  There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
>> default binding of "3"
>
> There is a move to get away from having to remember cryptic key presses
> to do things that only work on one screen. The preferred method is to
> use the menu to switch views.

Understood, but no one suggested taking it out of the menu. I agree
completely that you shouldn't have to remember cryptic key presses,
but if there is a cryptic key press (and people have been using it for
10 years or whatever) to have that cryptic key press no longer
function is off-putting. The goal for a user interface should be to
be hostile neither to experienced nor inexperienced users.

> It would be easy to add some extra key bindings to the 'Music' context
> to switch views. In main.cpp setupKeys() add
>
> REG_KEY("Music", "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE",
> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP("MythControls",
>        "Switch to the playlist editor tree view"), "3");

That would be perfect.

> I hated the split nodes which is why I didn't add them back. I know
> opinion is split but using the search is far quicker at finding what you
> want even when using a remote.

I'm not quite sure how to do searching without a keyboard. But even
with a keyboard, searching isn't quite as efficient as I'd like to see
it.

When I enter a search string, usually I enter a word from the start of
the title, not a random substring in the middle of a word. I'd prefer
to have the search results ordered such that matches that match the
start of the string are shown first, then matches that match the start
of a word, and then finally matches that match in the middle of a
word. This should make it easier to find tracks by typing less of a
word and/or pressing next less often.


>> 5.  MythMusic should start on playlist tree view, rather than current playlist
>>
>
> I'm confused! We have two menu entries on the main menu one is 'Play
> Music' the other is "Select Music' each one shows the relevant view when
> selected why would you want that any other way?

I have my menu theme set to "default", which I would imagine many
(most?) other users do as well.

I only see one menu entry for Myth Music called "Listen to Music" with
the subtitle "Browse your music library" that takes me immediately to
the current playlist view. The first impression for a new user will
be the statement on screen "You haven't selected any tracks to play"
with no obvious indication of what to do. The menu key brings up a
menu with choices:

Search List...
Switch View
Playlist Options
Set Shuffle Mode
Set Repeat Mode
Player Options
Quick Playlists
Change Visualizer

And my first guess for where to go to actually select tracks was
Playlist Options. It didn't occur to me that after picking Media
Library -> Listen to Music (Browse your music library) I would then
need to pick "Switch View" to actually do that. It took some poking
around to figure that out, and I think that's consistent with the
negative first impression that a lot of people seem to be having with
the new Myth Music.

Most of the time when I go into Myth Music I do not want to listen to
whatever the last person to use it was listening to, so the first
thing I need to do every time is call up the menu and switch views, so
not only is starting in current playlist counter intuitive, it's
annoying as well. But it's sounding like this isn't a criticism of
Myth Music per se, but rather the default Media Library menu.

Thanks for your patch. I'll check it out shortly.

Eric
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adeffs.mythtv at gmail

May 2, 2012, 8:13 AM

Post #81 of 102 (2955 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Eric Sharkey <eric [at] lisaneric> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Paul Harrison <mythtv [at] sky> wrote:
>> On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Nice to see someone doing something positive for a change :) It's
>> against my better judgement but only because I'm in a good mood I
>> thought I'd try to address some of these issues :)
>
> Thanks, Paul.
>
>>> 2.  There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
>>> default binding of "3"
>>
>> There is a move to get away from having to remember cryptic key presses
>> to do things that only work on one screen. The preferred method is to
>> use the menu to switch views.
>
> Understood, but no one suggested taking it out of the menu.  I agree
> completely that you shouldn't have to remember cryptic key presses,
> but if there is a cryptic key press (and people have been using it for
> 10 years or whatever) to have that cryptic key press no longer
> function is off-putting.  The goal for a user interface should be to
> be hostile neither to experienced nor inexperienced users.
>
>> It would be easy to add some extra key bindings to the 'Music' context
>> to switch views. In main.cpp setupKeys() add
>>
>> REG_KEY("Music", "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE",
>> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP("MythControls",
>>        "Switch to the playlist editor tree view"), "3");
>
> That would be perfect.
>
>> I hated the split nodes which is why I didn't add them back. I know
>> opinion is split but using the search is far quicker at finding what you
>> want even when using a remote.
>
> I'm not quite sure how to do searching without a keyboard.  But even
> with a keyboard, searching isn't quite as efficient as I'd like to see
> it.
>
> When I enter a search string, usually I enter a word from the start of
> the title, not a random substring in the middle of a word.  I'd prefer
> to have the search results ordered such that matches that match the
> start of the string are shown first, then matches that match the start
> of a word, and then finally matches that match in the middle of a
> word.  This should make it easier to find tracks by typing less of a
> word and/or pressing next less often.
>
>
>>> 5.  MythMusic should start on playlist tree view, rather than current playlist
>>>
>>
>> I'm confused! We have two menu entries on the main menu one is 'Play
>> Music' the other is "Select Music' each one shows the relevant view when
>> selected why would you want that any other way?
>
> I have my menu theme set to "default", which I would imagine many
> (most?) other users do as well.
>
> I only see one menu entry for Myth Music called "Listen to Music" with
> the subtitle "Browse your music library" that takes me immediately to
> the current playlist view.  The first impression for a new user will
> be the statement on screen "You haven't selected any tracks to play"
> with no obvious indication of what to do.  The menu key brings up a
> menu with choices:
>
> Search List...
> Switch View
> Playlist Options
> Set Shuffle Mode
> Set Repeat Mode
> Player Options
> Quick Playlists
> Change Visualizer
>
> And my first guess for where to go to actually select tracks was
> Playlist Options.  It didn't occur to me that after picking Media
> Library -> Listen to Music (Browse your music library) I would then
> need to pick "Switch View" to actually do that.  It took some poking
> around to figure that out, and I think that's consistent with the
> negative first impression that a lot of people seem to be having with
> the new Myth Music.
>
> Most of the time when I go into Myth Music I do not want to listen to
> whatever the last person to use it was listening to, so the first
> thing I need to do every time is call up the menu and switch views, so
> not only is starting in current playlist counter intuitive, it's
> annoying as well.  But it's sounding like this isn't a criticism of
> Myth Music per se, but rather the default Media Library menu.
>
> Thanks for your patch.  I'll check it out shortly.
>
> Eric

any word on the patch? would love to compile this into the mythbuntu
deb if it works well!

I assume this is not something that could be included into 0.25-fixes?

thanks!

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eric at lisaneric

May 2, 2012, 11:39 AM

Post #82 of 102 (2953 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv [at] gmail> wrote:
> any word on the patch? would love to compile this into the mythbuntu
> deb if it works well!

I haven't been able to test it yet. Mondays and Tuesdays are my
busiest days. I hope to get a build with this installed on my systems
in the next day or so.

> I assume this is not something that could be included into 0.25-fixes?

I think it could. It should certainly apply cleanly and given the
massive feedback on this list I think it would constitute a fix for
what many people seem to consider breakage.

Since Paul is no longer an official developer, we'll need to open a trac ticket.

Eric
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eric at lisaneric

May 3, 2012, 6:45 PM

Post #83 of 102 (2931 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 5/2/12, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv [at] gmail> wrote:
> any word on the patch? would love to compile this into the mythbuntu
> deb if it works well!

I was able to apply Paul's add_directory_browsing.diff patch and the
SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE change described in the body to the Debian
sources from debian-multimedia.org. After building and installing the
new mythmusic packages everything worked perfectly.

I haven't tried buttonlist_quick_scroll.diff yet.

I think this will really go a long way toward addressing many of the
complaints raised on this list.

Eric
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warpme at o2

May 4, 2012, 5:05 AM

Post #84 of 102 (2915 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 4/29/12 2:03 PM, Paul Harrison wrote:
> On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Nice to see someone doing something positive for a change :) It's
> against my better judgement but only because I'm in a good mood I
> thought I'd try to address some of these issues :)
>
>> 1. There should be a top level menu entry called Path which can
>> browse music by filesystem path.
> The attached patch adds a Directory node to the playlist tree that
> allows you to browse your music by filesystem path. It works exactly
> like the existing nodes in the playlist editor so selecting a node will
> either add or replace all the tracks below the node to the active
> playlist. I've only done a quick test to see if it compiles and works as
> expected so it needs someone to do a more thorough test. If someone
> wants to give it a try let me know and I will quickly knock up a
> mm_directory.png icon which is required for the gallery view. It would
> be even better if someone with more artistic skill than me could come up
> with some replacements for all the gallery view icons.
>
>> 2. There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
>> default binding of "3"
> There is a move to get away from having to remember cryptic key presses
> to do things that only work on one screen. The preferred method is to
> use the menu to switch views. The old 'Play Music' and 'Show music
> playlists' jump points still work AFAIK but I wouldn't bind one of them
> to the '3' key because jumppoints are global and are executed before any
> other action.
>
> It would be easy to add some extra key bindings to the 'Music' context
> to switch views. In main.cpp setupKeys() add
>
> REG_KEY("Music", "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE",
> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP("MythControls",
> "Switch to the playlist editor tree view"), "3");
>
>
> and then in the MusicCommon::keypressHandler() add something like
>
> if (action == "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE"&& m_currentView !=
> MV_PLAYLISTEDITORTREE)
> switchView(MV_PLAYLISTEDITORTREE);
>
> a more generic method would be to use the existing NEXTVIEW and PREVVIEW
> key bindings to cycle through the views but I seem to remember there
> being a clash with the default NEXTTRACK and PREVTRACK key bindings.
>
>> 3. "All Tracks" should be a selectable object to add all tracks to the playlist
> If you want to add all your tracks to the playlist you can use the menu
> 'Quick Playlists->All Tracks. The attached (included with the directory
> browsing patch) also allows you to select the 'All Tracks' nodes to add
> all the tracks below the current node to the playlist. I also made it do
> the same if you select any of the 'Artists', 'Albums', 'Genres' ...
> nodes as well for consistency. Untested so needs someone to give it a spin.
>
>> 4. Any list longer than ~100 entries should automatically subdivide
>> into sublists
> I hated the split nodes which is why I didn't add them back. I know
> opinion is split but using the search is far quicker at finding what you
> want even when using a remote. The last time this was debated there was
> some good ideas for making scrolling quicker the attached implements
> the simplest of those ideas allowing you to press '1' to jump to a
> position approximately 10% into the list '2' would move 20% and so on. I
> like this because it is generic and will work in all button lists. For
> simplicity I've used the existing number keybindings I don't know if the
> powers that be would prefer they where new keybindings like SCROLL10,
> SCROLL20 or not. I can't see anyone wanting to use anything but the
> number keys but 'there's nowt so queer as folk' as we say in this part
> of the world :)
>> 5. MythMusic should start on playlist tree view, rather than current playlist
>>
> I'm confused! We have two menu entries on the main menu one is 'Play
> Music' the other is "Select Music' each one shows the relevant view when
> selected why would you want that any other way? Maybe this is a menu
> theme issue I use the classic layout which groups all the music menu
> entries on the same menu. You can always switch to any view from the
> popup menu available on every music view screen.
>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> Eric
>
> Paul H.
>
>
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Paul,

Milllion thx for those patches. They are GREAT extensions to already
nice new mythmusic. I'm really happy as I really miss directory browsing
mode !
I think now mythmusic almost reaching missing DJ mode.
I You only add toggle "Switch to Playlist mode / switch to DJ mode" and
make sure that in DJ mode pressing OK on given song will playback it
instead adding it to current playlist - I think current mythmusic will
be real functional super-set of old mythmusic.
With such enhancement I can't imagine any functional complaints for
current mythmusic vs. old one.

-br
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adeffs.mythtv at gmail

May 4, 2012, 8:27 AM

Post #85 of 102 (2914 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Eric Sharkey <eric [at] lisaneric> wrote:
> On 5/2/12, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv [at] gmail> wrote:
>> any word on the patch? would love to compile this into the mythbuntu
>> deb if it works well!
>
> I was able to apply Paul's add_directory_browsing.diff patch and the
> SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE change described in the body to the Debian
> sources from debian-multimedia.org.  After building and installing the
> new mythmusic packages everything worked perfectly.
>
> I haven't tried buttonlist_quick_scroll.diff yet.
>
> I think this will really go a long way toward addressing many of the
> complaints raised on this list.
>
> Eric

excellent, if I have time this weekend I'm going to see if I can get
it to apply cleanly to the mythbuntu packages as well.

I think creating a ticket would be good, we'll let the dev's decide if
this is something that can be included as a 0.25-fixes or not, but
hopefully it will so users who use packaged version won't have to keep
compiling their own.

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watkinshome at gmail

May 4, 2012, 11:16 AM

Post #86 of 102 (2911 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
> I was able to apply Paul's add_directory_browsing.diff patch and the
> SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE change described in the body to the Debian
> sources from debian-multimedia.org.  After building and installing the
> new mythmusic packages everything worked perfectly.
>
> I haven't tried buttonlist_quick_scroll.diff yet.

That works too.

Thanks
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eric at lisaneric

May 4, 2012, 7:03 PM

Post #87 of 102 (2895 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv [at] gmail> wrote:
> I think creating a ticket would be good, we'll let the dev's decide if
> this is something that can be included as a 0.25-fixes or not, but
> hopefully it will so users who use packaged version won't have to keep
> compiling their own.

I just opened #10690.

http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10690

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May 6, 2012, 9:49 AM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Eric Sharkey <eric [at] lisaneric> wrote:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv [at] gmail> wrote:
>> I think creating a ticket would be good, we'll let the dev's decide if
>> this is something that can be included as a 0.25-fixes or not, but
>> hopefully it will so users who use packaged version won't have to keep
>> compiling their own.
>
> I just opened #10690.
>
> http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10690
>
> Eric

I tried compiling the patches into the mythbuntu source packages
(20120506.1c4066e) and after successful compilation, install, and a
reboot for good measure, mythmusic occasionally crashes when entering
"Playlist Editor - Tree View", when I am able to enter, Directory> is
empty.

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May 10, 2012, 7:07 AM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Dan Littlejohn
> <dan.littlejohn [at] gmail> wrote:
>> You open the tool and it provides a list of folders. You
>> navigate through the folders and video entries and press play. The video
>> starts playing.
> Agreed.
>
> So we have:
>
> 1. There should be a top level menu entry called Path which can
> browse music by filesystem path.
> 2. There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
> default binding of "3"
> 3. "All Tracks" should be a selectable object to add all tracks to the playlist
> 4. Any list longer than ~100 entries should automatically subdivide
> into sublists
> 5. MythMusic should start on playlist tree view, rather than current playlist
>
> Anything else?
>
> Eric

I've created a temporary fork on GitHub at
git://github.com/paul-h/mythtv.git
that includes these patches.

* add directory browsing
* add some SWITCHTO* keybindings for all the views
* make "All Tracks" add all tracks
* add quick scrolling using number keys to the buttonlist
* add TOGGLESHUFFLE and TOGGLEREPEAT key bindings
* remove some no longer used keybindings

I will probably merge in some other stuff as time allows.

Paul H.

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May 10, 2012, 4:23 PM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
>>> You open the tool and it provides a list of folders. You
>>> navigate through the folders and video entries and press play. The
>>> video
>>> starts playing.
>> Agreed.
>
>> So we have:
>>
>> 1. There should be a top level menu entry called Path which can
>> browse music by filesystem path.
>> 2. There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
>> default binding of "3"
>> 3. "All Tracks" should be a selectable object to add all tracks to the
>> playlist
>> 4. Any list longer than ~100 entries should automatically subdivide
>> into sublists
>> 5. MythMusic should start on playlist tree view, rather than current
>> playlist
>>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> Eric

>I've created a temporary fork on GitHub at
>git://github.com/paul-h/mythtv.git
>that includes these patches.

>* add directory browsing
>* add some SWITCHTO* keybindings for all the views
>* make "All Tracks" add all tracks
>* add quick scrolling using number keys to the buttonlist
>* add TOGGLESHUFFLE and TOGGLEREPEAT key bindings
>* remove some no longer used keybindings

>I will probably merge in some other stuff as time allows.

>Paul H.

Thanks Paul! Any chance this stuff will make its way back into regular 'ole
0.25+fixes?

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May 10, 2012, 11:25 PM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
Am 2012-04-25 15:57, schrieb Steven Adeff:

> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012
at 9:47 AM, Eric Sharkey <eric [at] lisaneric> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr
25, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Scott & Nicole Harris <snharris99 [at] live [1]>
wrote:
>>
>>> When a track is selected, it should start to play
(resigning myself to the "fact" that it must also be added to the
playlist now).
>> But doesn't it do that already? As far as I can tell,
that's exactly how it works now, just like it did in .24. I really feel
like I'm missing something, because I just don't understand how you see
the .25 "playlist model" as any different than it was in .24. Eric
>
>
in 0.24 I *never* used playlists. not once. and I had no problem playing
music.
> now, when and if I'm able to find what I want to play, I have
to add
> to a playlist, jump around to that playlist, etc. just to play
an
> album that in 0.24 took one button, select.
>
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This is now
possible. You can use the directory / filesystem browsing (patch from
Paul) and my patch (see thread MythMusic immediately play songs from
playlist editor) to just press play and the tracks / albums get added to
the end of the current playlist and will be played immediately.

Robert
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May 11, 2012, 7:11 AM

Post #92 of 102 (2692 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
Anyone running Mythbuntu have any luck with the directory patch?

it generally loads up fine for me, but there is nothing listed under
the "directory" level.

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May 11, 2012, 10:21 AM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 11/05/12 00:23, Scott & Nicole Harris wrote:
>
>> I've created a temporary fork on GitHub at
>> git://github.com/paul-h/mythtv.git
>> that includes these patches.
>
>> * add directory browsing
>> * add some SWITCHTO* keybindings for all the views
>> * make "All Tracks" add all tracks
>> * add quick scrolling using number keys to the buttonlist
>> * add TOGGLESHUFFLE and TOGGLEREPEAT key bindings
>> * remove some no longer used keybindings
>
>> I will probably merge in some other stuff as time allows.
>
>> Paul H.
>
> Thanks Paul! Any chance this stuff will make its way back into
> regular 'ole 0.25+fixes?

It's not up to me to decide any more thankfully :) but usually only bug
fixes get backported to the fixes branch and I don't think any of these
really count as bug fixes. There is only a small chance that any of the
patches will make it into master. I have emailed Stuart Morgan who is
the only other dev who has shown any interest in MythMusic in the past
to let him know about the fork with the patches and told him he is
welcome to use anything on there if he wishes but I've had no reply from
him so it doesn't look hopeful. He has been committing stuff so he is
around just not talking to me it would seem :( I know he doesn't
subscribe to the users list so he is probably unaware of the comments
being made about the new MythMusic maybe someone else should try talking
to him?

Anyway I think I have done just about as much as I can to help remedy
the complaints and keep everyone happy even though I'm no longer part of
the project. What happens from now on is out of my hands.

Paul H.

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May 11, 2012, 10:27 AM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 11/05/12 15:11, Steven Adeff wrote:
> Anyone running Mythbuntu have any luck with the directory patch?
>
> it generally loads up fine for me, but there is nothing listed under
> the "directory" level.
>

Do you have anything in the other nodes (artist, album, genre etc) ?

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May 11, 2012, 10:51 AM

Post #95 of 102 (2684 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On 05/11/2012 01:21 PM, Paul Harrison wrote:
> On 11/05/12 00:23, Scott& Nicole Harris wrote:
>>> I've created a temporary fork on GitHub at
>>> git://github.com/paul-h/mythtv.git
>>> that includes these patches.
>>> * add directory browsing
>>> * add some SWITCHTO* keybindings for all the views
>>> * make "All Tracks" add all tracks
>>> * add quick scrolling using number keys to the buttonlist
>>> * add TOGGLESHUFFLE and TOGGLEREPEAT key bindings
>>> * remove some no longer used keybindings
>>> I will probably merge in some other stuff as time allows.
>> Thanks Paul! Any chance this stuff will make its way back into
>> regular 'ole 0.25+fixes?
> It's not up to me to decide any more thankfully :) but usually only bug
> fixes get backported to the fixes branch and I don't think any of these
> really count as bug fixes. There is only a small chance that any of the
> patches will make it into master. I have emailed Stuart Morgan who is
> the only other dev who has shown any interest in MythMusic in the past
> to let him know about the fork with the patches and told him he is
> welcome to use anything on there if he wishes but I've had no reply from
> him so it doesn't look hopeful. He has been committing stuff so he is
> around just not talking to me it would seem :( I know he doesn't
> subscribe to the users list so he is probably unaware of the comments
> being made about the new MythMusic maybe someone else should try talking
> to him?

FWIW, he's aware of the threads here, and he did receive your e-mail(s)
(I know for a fact he got the one you describe)--but he's just been busy
with some other stuff, so probably hasn't gotten a chance to reply,
start working on it, or anything.

> Anyway I think I have done just about as much as I can to help remedy
> the complaints and keep everyone happy even though I'm no longer part of
> the project. What happens from now on is out of my hands.

And we do thank you for the initial and continuing work you've done on
MythMusic.

Mike
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eric at lisaneric

May 11, 2012, 11:43 AM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Paul Harrison <mythtv [at] sky> wrote:
> On 11/05/12 00:23, Scott & Nicole Harris wrote:
>> Thanks Paul!  Any chance this stuff will make its way back into
>> regular 'ole 0.25+fixes?
>
> It's not up to me to decide any more thankfully :) but usually only bug
> fixes get backported to the fixes branch and I don't think any of these
> really count as bug fixes.

Many users see the fact that there was stuff they could do in 0.24
that they can't anymore as breakage. Given that the patches you've
posted have been relatively small, are unlikely to destabilize
anything, and restore lost functionality, I think fixes/0.25 is an
appropriate place for them.

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May 11, 2012, 4:04 PM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Paul Harrison <mythtv [at] sky> wrote:
> On 11/05/12 15:11, Steven Adeff wrote:
>> Anyone running Mythbuntu have any luck with the directory patch?
>>
>> it generally loads up fine for me, but there is nothing listed under
>> the "directory" level.
>>
>
> Do you have anything in the other nodes (artist, album, genre etc) ?
>
> Paul H.

Hi Paul,

I do, though as I played around some more after sending the email I
noticed not "everything" is there, ie there is music in the scan
location that is not in the database. I'm running a new scan, but I
have a large collection so it will take a while.

Let me know if there's anything I can check for.

thanks!

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May 11, 2012, 5:33 PM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Steven Adeff <adeffs.mythtv [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Paul Harrison <mythtv [at] sky> wrote:
>> On 11/05/12 15:11, Steven Adeff wrote:
>>> Anyone running Mythbuntu have any luck with the directory patch?
>>>
>>> it generally loads up fine for me, but there is nothing listed under
>>> the "directory" level.
>>>
>>
>> Do you have anything in the other nodes (artist, album, genre etc) ?
>>
>> Paul H.
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I do, though as I played around some more after sending the email I
> noticed not "everything" is there, ie there is music in the scan
> location that is not in the database. I'm running a new scan, but I
> have a large collection so it will take a while.
>
> Let me know if there's anything I can check for.
>
> thanks!
>

well now I seem to have a wholly different issue, Myth seems to not be
able to read id3 tags in flac files anymore. So now all my flac files
(a good amount of my library) are have "Unknown" info.


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richard.e.morton at gmail

Jun 24, 2012, 9:06 AM

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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
Does anyone know if the patch provided by Paul has been committed to
0.25/fixes?
thanks
R


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Jun 29, 2012, 12:19 AM

Post #100 of 102 (2207 views)
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Re: Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one? [In reply to]
2012/6/24 Richard Morton <richard.e.morton [at] gmail>:
> Does anyone know if the patch provided by Paul has been committed to
> 0.25/fixes?
> thanks
> R
>

Hello Richard, there is no any patch committed yet, it will be great
to add this functionality to mythmusic.

Best regards.


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